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Trout Sniffer · 02-11-2004, 06:25 PM

Alright, so what the hell is the law on gambling? I don't understand. People are allowed to hold poker tournaments in our lobby here at BSU that cost money, but they are alright because they give prizes. However, if we were caught in one of our tournaments over in the Noyer study lounge, it would be grounds for expulsion.

What is the difference here? Is it that they are giving prizes instead of money? Well we're giving prizes too, it's just in the form of money. Would it be alright if we simply gave out gift certificates for the same amount as we would give out for their prize money?

I would like to hear your opinions, but more than that I was hoping that someone could find out the law. UB, you're a criminal justice major, could you possibly ask one of your teachers. Or Lethal, you dad is a damn lawyer, he would have to know. Anyways, give input, and if you really know, tell us what the law is.

Combat Chuck · 02-11-2004, 07:17 PM

Are the games that are held in your lobby school sanctioned? I find that that makes all the difference in so many instances.

Such as how me and my friends usually play capture-the-flag in the main building here on campus, but we have to make sure that we don't get caught by the patrolling security guard. Thing is, on the 4th floor of this building is a school sanctioned Millikin Gaming Association that has a role-playing game where they all pretend that they are vampires and sometimes run around naked. I'm not shitting you folks.

I have no idea how they got school sanctioned, but I think it had something to do with lying.

VOL · 02-11-2004, 11:02 PM

Chuck makes a good point on the sanctioning.

And as far as I know gambling is illegal in any form except in Atlantic City and parts of Nevada. Also on boats for Indians. I don't think the gift certificates would be a way to get around the problem Trout. Just give out IOUs

Trout Sniffer · 02-11-2004, 11:04 PM

I want to know what defines gambling. If you just pay to play poker and then there is a prize for the winner, i don't think that's considered gambling.

Pliedes · 02-11-2004, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Combat Chuck:
a role-playing game where they all pretend that they are vampires and sometimes run around naked.

Tell us more about that, sounds interesting.

AcTivE · 02-11-2004, 11:31 PM

don't gamble.

Lethal · 02-11-2004, 11:32 PM

I do know that when you play for money it is illegal. You could even get arrested for it if they wanted to. I don't know about the prize thing, but I sent my father an email asking for some info on the situation.

VOL · 02-12-2004, 12:04 AM

gambling- 1. To take place in a game which players bet or wager 2. To make a bet or wager. 3.to risk losing something in trying to gain something else.

Take these definitions and use them for your search of the meaning Trout.

Trout Sniffer · 02-12-2004, 09:44 PM

Well what the hell is considered betting or wagering?

Lethal, God bless you. Thank you for this. I have been wondering about this for a very long time.

f3lix · 02-12-2004, 10:15 PM

it seems poker for no money fits that definition...

Also, on Native American reserves, casinos are legal, as the gov't doesn't control that land.

Trout Sniffer · 02-23-2004, 03:52 PM

Lethal, do we have an update on the status? I would really like a legal standpoint on this instead of some Nubblites that are just assuming stuff.

02-11-2004, 06:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Trout Sniffer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Straight Outta Compton Posts: 1,003 Internets: 123	Alright, so what the hell is the law on gambling? I don't understand. People are allowed to hold poker tournaments in our lobby here at BSU that cost money, but they are alright because they give prizes. However, if we were caught in one of our tournaments over in the Noyer study lounge, it would be grounds for expulsion. What is the difference here? Is it that they are giving prizes instead of money? Well we're giving prizes too, it's just in the form of money. Would it be alright if we simply gave out gift certificates for the same amount as we would give out for their prize money? I would like to hear your opinions, but more than that I was hoping that someone could find out the law. UB, you're a criminal justice major, could you possibly ask one of your teachers. Or Lethal, you dad is a damn lawyer, he would have to know. Anyways, give input, and if you really know, tell us what the law is.
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02-11-2004, 11:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	Chuck makes a good point on the sanctioning. And as far as I know gambling is illegal in any form except in Atlantic City and parts of Nevada. Also on boats for Indians. I don't think the gift certificates would be a way to get around the problem Trout. Just give out IOUs
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02-11-2004, 11:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trout Sniffer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Straight Outta Compton Posts: 1,003 Internets: 123	I want to know what defines gambling. If you just pay to play poker and then there is a prize for the winner, i don't think that's considered gambling.
	The Glyde don't sign no autographs

02-11-2004, 11:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	don't gamble.
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02-12-2004, 12:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	gambling- 1. To take place in a game which players bet or wager 2. To make a bet or wager. 3.to risk losing something in trying to gain something else. Take these definitions and use them for your search of the meaning Trout.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

02-11-2004, 07:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Combat Chuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,063 Internets: 10	Are the games that are held in your lobby school sanctioned? I find that that makes all the difference in so many instances. Such as how me and my friends usually play capture-the-flag in the main building here on campus, but we have to make sure that we don't get caught by the patrolling security guard. Thing is, on the 4th floor of this building is a school sanctioned Millikin Gaming Association that has a role-playing game where they all pretend that they are vampires and sometimes run around naked. I'm not shitting you folks. I have no idea how they got school sanctioned, but I think it had something to do with lying.

02-11-2004, 11:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lethal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Warsaw Posts: 491 Internets: 10	I do know that when you play for money it is illegal. You could even get arrested for it if they wanted to. I don't know about the prize thing, but I sent my father an email asking for some info on the situation.

02-12-2004, 09:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Trout Sniffer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Straight Outta Compton Posts: 1,003 Internets: 123	Well what the hell is considered betting or wagering? Lethal, God bless you. Thank you for this. I have been wondering about this for a very long time.
	The Glyde don't sign no autographs

02-12-2004, 10:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	it seems poker for no money fits that definition... Also, on Native American reserves, casinos are legal, as the gov't doesn't control that land.

02-23-2004, 03:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Trout Sniffer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Straight Outta Compton Posts: 1,003 Internets: 123	Lethal, do we have an update on the status? I would really like a legal standpoint on this instead of some Nubblites that are just assuming stuff.
	The Glyde don't sign no autographs