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chicken · 02-18-2003, 10:20 PM

My basic opinion of punk music is thus: useless, loud noise. It reminds me of going down to the airport and moshing to the sound of planes taking off. The lyrics are uninspired and about some evil in the world or about some girl, that is redundant to say it sucks. "Oh yeah, ignorance sucks." Well, what are you going to do about it? The problem, as I see it, about punk music is that it all sounds the same. Same punk singing, same drum beats, same 3 chords and same lyrics. No "real" singing seems to trickle through the guitar, and whatever quotes are heard are always about the same problems in the world. Some may accuse me of picking only on punk while many other genre’s of music have this problem, I chose to talk about this one. The only thing that punk ever had going for it, in terms of sound, was the "old school" punk, from the 1970’s. Back then it was still the same mindless drivel, but at least it was new and original. Now it’s all the same, simply noise and nothing else.

ex:
broken inside my heart
'cause you broke up with me
I know its my fault for losing you

I look like I'm wondering
why I treat you that way
I'm sorry for not trusting you at all
please give me one try tommorow

StabMaster Arson · 02-18-2003, 11:16 PM

newbie, don't speak until spoken to.

Ugly Bastard · 02-18-2003, 11:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StabMaster Arson:
newbie, don't speak until spoken to.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Beauty StabMaster, beauty.

However, I must concur with the young kid. Punk is perhaps my least favorite genre of music (it tetters back and forth with Country for that title).

-Ugly Bastard

guitarcb7 · 02-18-2003, 11:37 PM

no.....punk isnt great.. but i have to say my least favorite is rap music(oxymoron).

Titan · 02-19-2003, 12:14 AM

Fuck people who can't accept that other genres of music other than their favourite exist and actually are valid forms of music that a large part of the population likes - even those who are also faithful to your favourite genre. These fuckers make me sick. Oh well, you only like rock? You only like hip-hop? You only like country? More for me you dirty fuckcock, you're missing out.

Not to mention I can't stand when I get on Nubblies and some dumbfuck has posted word for word the exact same thing that they just posted on Seraphim's message board. Dumbfuck.

I'd also like to quote "Rhythmboy" of the Seraphim message board: "Maybe it sounds the same to you, that is just your opinion and I'm sorry you can't see the beauty and diversity in music." Thank you, fuck you, and good night

And you can read Rhythmboy's full dismantling here: http://www.snydz.com/perl/seraphim/Y...num=1045613126

[This message has been edited by Titan (edited February 18, 2003).]

Niger Angelus · 02-19-2003, 12:19 AM

I agree with Titan.

Ugly Bastard · 02-19-2003, 12:28 AM

I concur with Mr. Titan.

I "hate" Punk and Country. Yet I have healty doses of New Found Glory and Tim McGraw on my computer, because I am open to other genres. (I am "open" to them, that doesn't necessarily mean I "like" them).

A masterful Titanic post.

-Ugly Bastard

chicken · 02-19-2003, 02:13 AM

Hey, this is Kevin. If you don't understand some of this, its because something of my message is directed from the replys off the Seraphim board... I knew that posting that message was going to cause some controversy, but I didn't intend for it to go as far as it did. For those of you who know me, I've been involved in several different types of genres throughout my years of playing guitar. I think I've learned some things through that. I decided to write about punk music in particular because I used to be in a punk band. My intention of posting the message was to see what others thought about punk. The posting was not meant to be directed at A Thousand Seasons, I have a lot of respect for those guys. Even though I may not be a big fan of there music, the music scene in Warsaw was starting to die out... and I am glad that they came along because they are making it better and I appreaciate that a lot. I shouldn't have posted their lyrics as examples, that was my mistake. It was something that came to mind, but was my fault. Whoever staring_into_forev is, I DO NOT think I am god at guitar... I have never claimed to be, nor will I... because I am not. I don't think I'm that great at all compared to what I could be. I was not happy about that comment. I don't hate all punk, some is good... like Alkaline Trio, Slick Shoes and stuff... its just the majority I don't like that much. I wanted to clarify some things, and I hope I did. Peace.

Ugly Bastard · 02-19-2003, 01:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by chicken:
I don't think I'm that great at all compared to what I could be.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's that attitude right there, that will make you so good, people will consider you a God at guitar before too long.

Kudos chicken.

-Ugly Bastard

Rufus · 02-20-2003, 12:38 AM

I dont know why someone would say that kevin thinks he is a god at guitar..I have known kevin a long time and he has never put himself up about his guitar playing. He puts himself down if anything and that is what makes him such a great musician.

Jesus Chrystler · 02-20-2003, 06:27 PM

How the fuck does putting yourself down make you a great musician? I'm in a band, quite possibly the best band in the midwest, does knowing and aknowledging our greatness make it any less so? I think not.

Titan · 02-20-2003, 07:53 PM

Nope.
But saying things like that are just going to make people realize you're an ass, and hence not listen to your shitty music.

Combat Chuck · 02-20-2003, 11:55 PM

Exactically.

I just want to point out that while we may not agree with what chicken/Kevin has to say, we can't put him down for voicing his opinion. He didn't put people who listen to punk down, he put the genre itself. I'm not standing up for him, he is willing to fight his own battles, but I just want to clarify that coming back and saying that he's a cocksucker is kinda impeding upon Nubblistic/American privileges.

I like punk though. Not all of it, but some of it is foot-tappin fun.

Rufus · 02-20-2003, 11:59 PM

The best band in the midwest? That's probably bullshit. Who is your band?
Did i say he puts himself down? I said if he does anything its put himself down. He doesnt go around saying he sucks and he doesn't go around saying he is the best. He compares himself to other great guitar players and keeps practicing to get better, and it seems to be working.

Titan · 02-20-2003, 11:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Combat Chuck:
but I just want to clarify that coming back and saying that he's a cocksucker is kinda impeding upon Nubblistic/American privileges.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And then Chuck realizes that it's our Nubblistic/American privilege to call him a cocksucker.

Combat Chuck · 02-21-2003, 12:05 AM

And I realize that it is my Nubblistic/American privilege to say....that was a good slam.

gbc · 03-11-2003, 12:09 AM

I personaly like punk. It is better than rap witch just is playing anoying and country witch sings about nothing importand. I do agree though most of the new punk bands just sing about a girl and suck ass like Good Charlet's new stuff.

Combat Chuck · 03-11-2003, 12:38 AM

I think that might have been the most typo-laden post I have seen here.

Titan · 03-11-2003, 12:43 AM

Wouw, it's sadd... I'm uset too seeing shit lick that so much... and reeding stuff like bert's non-puntuated stuf (no affense, they are fun to read), that I did'nt evan noticed all that is wrong with that on first reed thorough.

03-11-2003, 02:16 AM

I'm still interested in knowing what band Jesus Chrystler is in...

Rufus · 03-12-2003, 01:12 AM

I would also like to know, pliedes. I think he is full of shit.

gbc · 03-13-2003, 12:36 AM

Sorry I hate english and that kind of stuff. I would like to know too.

Arsenic · 03-15-2003, 03:08 AM

gbc you just hate English because you are no good at it..

Thrice_underground · 04-30-2003, 10:34 PM

i think punk is like any music the more you get into it the more you hear the differences and then you can really tell each bands indiviual sound

i think most rap sounds the same but i'm sure if i talked to some gangster wannabees they could tell each rapper apart no problem

yes there are punk bands that use the same beats sounds words etc. but there are many that mix in really cool sounds for there own unique sound and those are the bands i normally like

oh and sorry but i do not know anyone who is really into punk that would consider new found glory a punk band there more of a shity pop/emo band if you can call them punk then you can call avril lavigne a punk star when all she is is another pop singer who dresses punk
i think you understand my point that doesnt mean you have to like punk or see my views but just see why some people can like it

gbc · 04-30-2003, 11:09 PM

Ya, I know what you mean. I know they arnt really punk but most people would lable them that so I just thought it would be easyer.

03-11-2003, 02:16 AM	#20 (permalink)
pliedes Guest Posts: n/a	I'm still interested in knowing what band Jesus Chrystler is in...
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02-18-2003, 10:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
chicken Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2 Internets: 10	My basic opinion of punk music is thus: useless, loud noise. It reminds me of going down to the airport and moshing to the sound of planes taking off. The lyrics are uninspired and about some evil in the world or about some girl, that is redundant to say it sucks. "Oh yeah, ignorance sucks." Well, what are you going to do about it? The problem, as I see it, about punk music is that it all sounds the same. Same punk singing, same drum beats, same 3 chords and same lyrics. No "real" singing seems to trickle through the guitar, and whatever quotes are heard are always about the same problems in the world. Some may accuse me of picking only on punk while many other genre’s of music have this problem, I chose to talk about this one. The only thing that punk ever had going for it, in terms of sound, was the "old school" punk, from the 1970’s. Back then it was still the same mindless drivel, but at least it was new and original. Now it’s all the same, simply noise and nothing else. ex: broken inside my heart 'cause you broke up with me I know its my fault for losing you I look like I'm wondering why I treat you that way I'm sorry for not trusting you at all please give me one try tommorow

02-18-2003, 11:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
StabMaster Arson Roscoe P. Coldchain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Stabbin Cabin Posts: 2,759 Internets: 1425	newbie, don't speak until spoken to.

02-18-2003, 11:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StabMaster Arson: newbie, don't speak until spoken to.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Beauty StabMaster, beauty. However, I must concur with the young kid. Punk is perhaps my least favorite genre of music (it tetters back and forth with Country for that title). -Ugly Bastard

02-18-2003, 11:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
guitarcb7 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 16 Internets: 10	no.....punk isnt great.. but i have to say my least favorite is rap music(oxymoron).

02-19-2003, 12:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	Fuck people who can't accept that other genres of music other than their favourite exist and actually are valid forms of music that a large part of the population likes - even those who are also faithful to your favourite genre. These fuckers make me sick. Oh well, you only like rock? You only like hip-hop? You only like country? More for me you dirty fuckcock, you're missing out. Not to mention I can't stand when I get on Nubblies and some dumbfuck has posted word for word the exact same thing that they just posted on Seraphim's message board. Dumbfuck. I'd also like to quote "Rhythmboy" of the Seraphim message board: "Maybe it sounds the same to you, that is just your opinion and I'm sorry you can't see the beauty and diversity in music." Thank you, fuck you, and good night And you can read Rhythmboy's full dismantling here: http://www.snydz.com/perl/seraphim/Y...num=1045613126 [This message has been edited by Titan (edited February 18, 2003).]

02-19-2003, 12:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	I agree with Titan.

02-19-2003, 12:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I concur with Mr. Titan. I "hate" Punk and Country. Yet I have healty doses of New Found Glory and Tim McGraw on my computer, because I am open to other genres. (I am "open" to them, that doesn't necessarily mean I "like" them). A masterful Titanic post. -Ugly Bastard

02-19-2003, 02:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
chicken Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2 Internets: 10	Hey, this is Kevin. If you don't understand some of this, its because something of my message is directed from the replys off the Seraphim board... I knew that posting that message was going to cause some controversy, but I didn't intend for it to go as far as it did. For those of you who know me, I've been involved in several different types of genres throughout my years of playing guitar. I think I've learned some things through that. I decided to write about punk music in particular because I used to be in a punk band. My intention of posting the message was to see what others thought about punk. The posting was not meant to be directed at A Thousand Seasons, I have a lot of respect for those guys. Even though I may not be a big fan of there music, the music scene in Warsaw was starting to die out... and I am glad that they came along because they are making it better and I appreaciate that a lot. I shouldn't have posted their lyrics as examples, that was my mistake. It was something that came to mind, but was my fault. Whoever staring_into_forev is, I DO NOT think I am god at guitar... I have never claimed to be, nor will I... because I am not. I don't think I'm that great at all compared to what I could be. I was not happy about that comment. I don't hate all punk, some is good... like Alkaline Trio, Slick Shoes and stuff... its just the majority I don't like that much. I wanted to clarify some things, and I hope I did. Peace.

02-19-2003, 01:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by chicken: I don't think I'm that great at all compared to what I could be.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It's that attitude right there, that will make you so good, people will consider you a God at guitar before too long. Kudos chicken. -Ugly Bastard

02-20-2003, 12:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rufus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: warsaw,in,usa Posts: 115 Internets: 10	I dont know why someone would say that kevin thinks he is a god at guitar..I have known kevin a long time and he has never put himself up about his guitar playing. He puts himself down if anything and that is what makes him such a great musician.

02-20-2003, 06:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jesus Chrystler Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 208 Internets: 26	How the fuck does putting yourself down make you a great musician? I'm in a band, quite possibly the best band in the midwest, does knowing and aknowledging our greatness make it any less so? I think not.

02-20-2003, 07:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	Nope. But saying things like that are just going to make people realize you're an ass, and hence not listen to your shitty music.

02-20-2003, 11:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
Combat Chuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,063 Internets: 10	Exactically. I just want to point out that while we may not agree with what chicken/Kevin has to say, we can't put him down for voicing his opinion. He didn't put people who listen to punk down, he put the genre itself. I'm not standing up for him, he is willing to fight his own battles, but I just want to clarify that coming back and saying that he's a cocksucker is kinda impeding upon Nubblistic/American privileges. I like punk though. Not all of it, but some of it is foot-tappin fun.

02-20-2003, 11:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rufus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: warsaw,in,usa Posts: 115 Internets: 10	The best band in the midwest? That's probably bullshit. Who is your band? Did i say he puts himself down? I said if he does anything its put himself down. He doesnt go around saying he sucks and he doesn't go around saying he is the best. He compares himself to other great guitar players and keeps practicing to get better, and it seems to be working.

02-20-2003, 11:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Combat Chuck: but I just want to clarify that coming back and saying that he's a cocksucker is kinda impeding upon Nubblistic/American privileges.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> And then Chuck realizes that it's our Nubblistic/American privilege to call him a cocksucker.

02-21-2003, 12:05 AM	#16 (permalink)
Combat Chuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,063 Internets: 10	And I realize that it is my Nubblistic/American privilege to say....that was a good slam.

03-11-2003, 12:09 AM	#17 (permalink)
gbc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: warsaw, indiana, USA Posts: 137 Internets: 10	I personaly like punk. It is better than rap witch just is playing anoying and country witch sings about nothing importand. I do agree though most of the new punk bands just sing about a girl and suck ass like Good Charlet's new stuff.

03-11-2003, 12:38 AM	#18 (permalink)
Combat Chuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,063 Internets: 10	I think that might have been the most typo-laden post I have seen here.

03-11-2003, 12:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	Wouw, it's sadd... I'm uset too seeing shit lick that so much... and reeding stuff like bert's non-puntuated stuf (no affense, they are fun to read), that I did'nt evan noticed all that is wrong with that on first reed thorough.

03-12-2003, 01:12 AM	#21 (permalink)
Rufus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: warsaw,in,usa Posts: 115 Internets: 10	I would also like to know, pliedes. I think he is full of shit.

03-13-2003, 12:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
gbc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: warsaw, indiana, USA Posts: 137 Internets: 10	Sorry I hate english and that kind of stuff. I would like to know too.

03-15-2003, 03:08 AM	#23 (permalink)
Arsenic Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winona Lake,Indiana,United States Posts: 204 Internets: 10	gbc you just hate English because you are no good at it..

04-30-2003, 10:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
Thrice_underground Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Warsaw, IN, USA Posts: 95 Internets: 10	i think punk is like any music the more you get into it the more you hear the differences and then you can really tell each bands indiviual sound i think most rap sounds the same but i'm sure if i talked to some gangster wannabees they could tell each rapper apart no problem yes there are punk bands that use the same beats sounds words etc. but there are many that mix in really cool sounds for there own unique sound and those are the bands i normally like oh and sorry but i do not know anyone who is really into punk that would consider new found glory a punk band there more of a shity pop/emo band if you can call them punk then you can call avril lavigne a punk star when all she is is another pop singer who dresses punk i think you understand my point that doesnt mean you have to like punk or see my views but just see why some people can like it

04-30-2003, 11:09 PM	#25 (permalink)
gbc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: warsaw, indiana, USA Posts: 137 Internets: 10	Ya, I know what you mean. I know they arnt really punk but most people would lable them that so I just thought it would be easyer.