Alright, So What Is Jiu Jitsu? - Nubblies.net Forums

Ugly Bastard · 05-18-2005, 06:18 PM

Sorry if I'm mispelling it, but this Jiu Jitsu thing, by now I've gathered that a lot of you came here after your JJ messageboard fell apart. What is is? Just a form of fighting? Sometime in the not too distant future I'd be interested in learning how to fight in some style. Be it boxing, or some form or karate; or maybe I'll just buy a gun. I dunno...

Talk to me.

-Ugly Bastard

malice · 05-18-2005, 06:28 PM

http://www.bjjthailand.com/EN/HISTORY.HTM

Ugly Bastard · 05-18-2005, 06:39 PM

C'mon. Someone talk to me. I could have searched google if I was looking for replies like that, malice.

-Ugly Bastard

bloodyfart · 05-18-2005, 07:09 PM

here are some good video examples.

this one is a teammate of mines highlight
http://onthemat.com/video.php?videoid=873

here is another teammate of mines mma and bjj highlight
http://onthemat.com/video.php?videoid=821

here is where i train
http://onthemat.com/video.php?videoid=768

MAGICLIT · 05-18-2005, 07:29 PM

he said------talk to me

blackbirdsjoy · 05-18-2005, 07:33 PM

looks more like a spectators sport

bloodyfart · 05-18-2005, 07:52 PM

video is better than talking. i could explain what it is, but why not just watch it in action.

Repugnant Abomination · 05-18-2005, 10:22 PM

It's submission wrestling. You don't try to pin your opponet, you try to tap him out using various locks.

Freedom · 05-18-2005, 10:54 PM

It's when you grapple to gain positional control and liberate a girl from an evil Imperialist organization. As you see, Jiu-jitsu.net itself hath been liberated.

Niger Angelus · 05-19-2005, 01:03 AM

It looks like un-organized freestyle wrestling. So I take it there are no points... just submission? Time limit? What are the rules basically...or what not.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-19-2005, 02:06 AM

i'll post all about the jiu-jits tomorrow when i'm not doing anything important.

like at work.

malice · 05-19-2005, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
C'mon. Someone talk to me. I could have searched google if I was looking for replies like that, malice.

-Ugly Bastard

Last time I checked there was no voice chat on this forum, and I could have easily answered with "submission grappling" but I thought you were looking for a little more info and or history than that. It looks to me like your not really interested, maybe just trying to make discussion.

My bad.

bloodyfart · 05-19-2005, 12:47 PM

depending on the tournament, there are points.

2 points for the takedown
3 for passing the guard to side control
4 for mount
4 for back mount
2 for a sweep from guard of half guard

depending on your belt level the time limits are usually around 6 or 7 minutes.

if neither fighter catches the other with a submission, then at the end of the time limit,the person with the most points win.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-19-2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by malice:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
C'mon. Someone talk to me. I could have searched google if I was looking for replies like that, malice.

-Ugly Bastard

Last time I checked there was no voice chat on this forum, and I could have easily answered with "submission grappling" but I thought you were looking for a little more info and or history than that. It looks to me like your not really interested, maybe just trying to make discussion.

My bad.[/quote]
you know what? you're right. why the fuck am i going to type out a post for 15-20 min when you can just look this shit up?

so go do some research and i will be available to answer questions.

good luck with that.

malice · 05-19-2005, 02:14 PM

I thought the page I posted for the ungrateful bastard was a pretty good one, it goes deep into the history.

bloodyfart · 05-19-2005, 02:16 PM

its decent, but the history doesnt really describe the sport so well.

malice · 05-19-2005, 02:21 PM

Thats true, I guess the competition aspect is a little different from the Martial Art behind it.

Niger Angelus · 05-20-2005, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bloodyfart:
depending on the tournament, there are points.

2 points for the takedown
3 for passing the guard to side control
4 for mount
4 for back mount
2 for a sweep from guard of half guard

depending on your belt level the time limits are usually around 6 or 7 minutes.

if neither fighter catches the other with a submission, then at the end of the time limit,the person with the most points win.

You are shaping up, I think I owe you an apology for my first impressions of you.
Anyway, sounds a lot like freestyle scoring and sounds kind of interesting. However; the video looked as though many of the fights look to be all alike, and a lot of rolling around. But, eh, still could be fun nonetheless.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-20-2005, 11:38 AM

make no mistake, unless you take BJJ & know what's going on, sport jiu-jitsu can be like watching paint dry. if you watch the first couple UFCs w/ royce when there were no time limits, they can be very boring at some points.

when i watch those fights now, they are a lot more exciting because i can see little nuances that i couldn't see before having a year or so of the jiu-jitz under my belt.

its funny when you go to a live UFC. stupid american audiences will sometimes boo when the fight hits the ground. that is because they are too lazy to learn about submissions and have no patience for them to happen. they should go watch K-1 kickboxing then. there wouldn't be a UFC if not for the gracies and their brand of jiu-jitsu so if you're watching the UFC, you should expect some groundwork.

AcTivE · 05-20-2005, 12:44 PM

If I ever get in a fight...well I guess I never really do, and when I do it's wrestling. But regardless, I'm a roll around on the ground kind of fighter.

MAGICLIT · 05-20-2005, 01:15 PM

Yea, i know what you mean AcTivE, almost everybody likes to roll around with dudes.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-20-2005, 01:16 PM

mmmmm....

rolling around with dudes...

MAGICLIT · 05-20-2005, 01:18 PM

WORD......

To yo Mutha.........

Beebs · 05-20-2005, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deadly Crescent Kick:
=when i watch those fights now, they are a lot more exciting because i can see little nuances that i couldn't see before having a year or so of the jiu-jitz under my belt.

Have you seen Rickson vs Zulu? It's 20 some minutes long.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-20-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beebs:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Deadly Crescent Kick:
=when i watch those fights now, they are a lot more exciting because i can see little nuances that i couldn't see before having a year or so of the jiu-jitz under my belt.

Have you seen Rickson vs Zulu? It's 20 some minutes long.[/quote]
i think i saw rickson vs zulu 2.

zulu is huge

05-18-2005, 07:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	here are some good video examples. this one is a teammate of mines highlight http://onthemat.com/video.php?videoid=873 here is another teammate of mines mma and bjj highlight http://onthemat.com/video.php?videoid=821 here is where i train http://onthemat.com/video.php?videoid=768
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-18-2005, 07:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
MAGICLIT Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: city of sin Posts: 2,753 Internets: 10	he said------talk to me
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05-18-2005, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
blackbirdsjoy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Piss Hole Posts: 185 Internets: 10	looks more like a spectators sport
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05-18-2005, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	video is better than talking. i could explain what it is, but why not just watch it in action.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-19-2005, 01:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	It looks like un-organized freestyle wrestling. So I take it there are no points... just submission? Time limit? What are the rules basically...or what not.
	I enjoy knives and fire.

05-18-2005, 06:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Sorry if I'm mispelling it, but this Jiu Jitsu thing, by now I've gathered that a lot of you came here after your JJ messageboard fell apart. What is is? Just a form of fighting? Sometime in the not too distant future I'd be interested in learning how to fight in some style. Be it boxing, or some form or karate; or maybe I'll just buy a gun. I dunno... Talk to me. -Ugly Bastard

05-18-2005, 06:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
malice Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bustleton Ave. Philadelphia, PA. Posts: 648 Internets: 10	http://www.bjjthailand.com/EN/HISTORY.HTM

05-18-2005, 06:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	C'mon. Someone talk to me. I could have searched google if I was looking for replies like that, malice. -Ugly Bastard

05-18-2005, 10:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	It's submission wrestling. You don't try to pin your opponet, you try to tap him out using various locks.

05-18-2005, 10:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Freedom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 172 Internets: -19	It's when you grapple to gain positional control and liberate a girl from an evil Imperialist organization. As you see, Jiu-jitsu.net itself hath been liberated.

05-19-2005, 02:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	i'll post all about the jiu-jits tomorrow when i'm not doing anything important. like at work.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-19-2005, 12:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	depending on the tournament, there are points. 2 points for the takedown 3 for passing the guard to side control 4 for mount 4 for back mount 2 for a sweep from guard of half guard depending on your belt level the time limits are usually around 6 or 7 minutes. if neither fighter catches the other with a submission, then at the end of the time limit,the person with the most points win.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-19-2005, 02:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
malice Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bustleton Ave. Philadelphia, PA. Posts: 648 Internets: 10	I thought the page I posted for the ungrateful bastard was a pretty good one, it goes deep into the history.

05-19-2005, 02:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	its decent, but the history doesnt really describe the sport so well.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-19-2005, 02:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
malice Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bustleton Ave. Philadelphia, PA. Posts: 648 Internets: 10	Thats true, I guess the competition aspect is a little different from the Martial Art behind it.

05-20-2005, 11:38 AM	#19 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	make no mistake, unless you take BJJ & know what's going on, sport jiu-jitsu can be like watching paint dry. if you watch the first couple UFCs w/ royce when there were no time limits, they can be very boring at some points. when i watch those fights now, they are a lot more exciting because i can see little nuances that i couldn't see before having a year or so of the jiu-jitz under my belt. its funny when you go to a live UFC. stupid american audiences will sometimes boo when the fight hits the ground. that is because they are too lazy to learn about submissions and have no patience for them to happen. they should go watch K-1 kickboxing then. there wouldn't be a UFC if not for the gracies and their brand of jiu-jitsu so if you're watching the UFC, you should expect some groundwork.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-20-2005, 12:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	If I ever get in a fight...well I guess I never really do, and when I do it's wrestling. But regardless, I'm a roll around on the ground kind of fighter.
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05-20-2005, 01:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
MAGICLIT Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: city of sin Posts: 2,753 Internets: 10	Yea, i know what you mean AcTivE, almost everybody likes to roll around with dudes.
	I am all in favor of a ruling class, especially since I rule.

05-20-2005, 01:16 PM	#22 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	mmmmm.... rolling around with dudes...
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-20-2005, 01:18 PM	#23 (permalink)
MAGICLIT Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: city of sin Posts: 2,753 Internets: 10	WORD...... To yo Mutha.........
	I am all in favor of a ruling class, especially since I rule.