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AcTivE · 02-20-2004, 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by AcTivE:
more than likely, you are going to need to remove all pictures, and links that have to do with anything hate related.

actually, yea, you do.

again, this is what i have stated in case anyone is too ignorant to read over it and all of a sudden feel they have guilt about the issue.

Pliedes · 02-20-2004, 05:51 AM

Active you know i'm not trying to be a dick about this. I'm not trying to get the board to suffer, i just want to know what exactly the guidelines are gonna be. because if posting derogatory pictures of blacks is hateful, then so is posting derogatory pictures of whites.
For instance, what if I made a post detailing how I hated Purdue University?

Hank · 02-20-2004, 05:51 AM

There's no reason to speak down to me, Active. I removed the pictures and links out of respect to you and board. I realize that you don't understand and agree with my point of view on many things, but I request respect in return.

I asked a simple question. Between what you've posted here and what was said between us via IM, you have not been clear at all regarding whether or not the pictures had to be removed. How about a simple fucking answer.

AcTivE · 02-20-2004, 05:57 AM

You did not give me a simple fucking answer. Look back several previous posts.

it's the first FUCKING question I asked you. Yes, I am speaking down to you, mainly because of what you have said when you edited the picture out.

Is that a simple fucking answer?

and pliedes, sure. from now on, any hate towards anything is illegal. is that what you wanted to hear? personally, i think it's a pretty simple issue. are you advocating hate or violence towards a particular group of people? If so, it's illegal.

for some reaosn i feel like i'm talking to a three year old that shits his pants and asks his parents if he can eat it because it looks like a candy bar.

Pliedes · 02-20-2004, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by AcTivE:

and pliedes, sure. from now on, any hate towards anything is illegal. is that what you wanted to hear? personally, i think it's a pretty simple issue. are you advocating hate or violence towards a particular group of people? If so, it's illegal.

So that's really how you draw the line? I don't want some broad sweeping generalization, i'm honestly trying to see exactly what defines this hate stuff. i don't want to see nubblies suffer in any way, you know that. and i know since you own the server space, you have to watch your ass for illegal shit. i'm just asking what the definition of the law is that defines what can and can't be posted on websites like this.

Hank · 02-20-2004, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by AcTivE:

Is this what that is hank?

Now I understand what you were asking here. You see, without punctuation, this simple question can be hard to understand.

In response, no. These pictures, in no way, provide information that supports hate groups.
Can I put the pictures back up now, Massa?

AcTivE · 02-20-2004, 06:03 AM

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Pliedes · 02-20-2004, 06:04 AM

Thanks, honestly. that's what i was looking for.

AcTivE · 02-20-2004, 06:06 AM

I've got a pretty pissy attitude towards it, because it can be interpretted however you want. I'd venture to say about 80% of posts on here in some way make a violation.

However, when it is very blunt and directed towards a whole race of people, it brings immediate concern for anyone browsing the pages.

Hank · 02-20-2004, 06:10 AM

I read through that and don't see anything about not being able to link to pro-white sites or post pictures like the ones you made me take down.

AcTivE · 02-20-2004, 06:17 AM

No, it doesn't. It also doesn't say that it is against policy to have a website which lists valid credit card numbers available for use w/fraud.

It does however say, that illegal use, is disallowed.

And it also says encouraging threats or bodily harm is against the terms.

Is what you posted (pictures and links) against those terms? I have reason to believe they are--because you're intention seems to be so. You never answered my

SIMPLE FUCKING QUESTION

to me pictures of a certain race hanging, then posting additional pictures, in addition to links which praise the extermination of a race fit into this category. i'd also go as far to say that it also fits in yours. You were guilty enough to begin with to take it down. Are your posts truly about historY?

AcTivE · 02-20-2004, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by AcTivE:
Just as a quick sidenote. It is illegal for me have any links to, or provide any information that supports hate groups.

Is this what that is hank?

buckeye · 02-20-2004, 07:04 AM

hey hank, if you wanna keep voicing your hate towards African Americans, how bout you voice it to me bitch, ill kick your ass. There is not one thing wrong with black people, at OSU we are very diverse, my roomate is black, and he's one of the coolest people i know, so fuck you if you're going to be posting this type of shit about them, ill beat your ass.

VOL · 02-20-2004, 11:58 AM

And I'll watch and place my money on buckeye.

*sits and wonders if Hank has accepted Jewbie's OST invitation.

02-20-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Hank:
I read through that and don't see anything about not being able to link to pro-white sites or post pictures like the ones you made me take down.

Hank, can you honestly tell me that the depiction of African Americans being lynched and burned in a thread entitled "Happy Black History Month," is not hateful? Don't use the history card here... your avater pretty much rules that out.

Jewbie · 02-20-2004, 12:35 PM

I already have qualms with you anyhow....Im with Buckeye, and ill place my bet on him too...Oh, and if you havent noticed...you are the minority, their is no superior white race, and you can go lick hitler's dead white ass hole....you racist PUTZ

[ February 20, 2004, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: Jewbie ]

Saint DH · 02-20-2004, 05:20 PM

Fuck each and everyone of you. I wonder if he'd of posted a picture of a white person hanging if any of you faggot motherfuckers would have given two shits. Oh wait, I know that you wouldn't have fucking cared, you probably would have laughed. So basically I'm saying fuck all of you, especailly you DJ FC, you can go fuck yourself, you too Jewbie.

This isn't directed at Active, b/c he has a business to run and I understand completely why he would have a problem with the pictures. The NAACP would be all over his ass if they saw that.

[ February 20, 2004, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Dirty Harry ]

Mr. Blonde · 02-20-2004, 05:37 PM

What you seem to be overlooking is the fact that he put "Happy Black History Month" as the title for this thread. If he had put up just a picture of a black man hanging it would most likely be viewed as disturbing, and could be misconstrued as racist. This is undoubtabley an attempt at some form of racism. If we had a "white history month" with the same background as african americans in this society, and someone put a picture of a white person hanging, then yes, it would also be see as racism. Fact is i dont care whether you like it or not, because of America's history there will most likely always be a double standard, so quit using that "But what about us?" excuse

AcTivE · 02-20-2004, 05:43 PM

Racism isn't the point. It's the fact that he was using pictures in combination with links and texts which suggested violence should be carried out.

Ugly Bastard · 02-20-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Dirty Harry:
Fuck each and everyone of you. I wonder if he'd of posted a picture of a white person hanging if any of you faggot motherfuckers would have given two shits. Oh wait, I know that you wouldn't have fucking cared, you probably would have laughed. So basically I'm saying fuck all of you, especailly you DJ FC, you can go fuck yourself, you too Jewbie.

What he said.

-Ugly Bastard

BarryJive · 02-20-2004, 06:50 PM

I doubt you'll find many pictures of white people hanging while hundreds of black people stand around and laugh about it.

02-20-2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Dirty Harry:
So basically I'm saying fuck all of you, especailly you DJ FC.

Mr. Blonde is right; it's more about the irony of the thread "Happy Black History Month."

Dirty Harry, I am proud of my heritage, (sometimes a bit too proud, ask my friends they will tell you), I happen to have blonde hair and blue eyes, so am I a traitor to our "Superior Race?" Or do I just enjoy poking fun at hillbilly redneck mother fuckers who buy into lynching black people and slavery.
If you believe that my pictures were intended to make fun of white people, then I am sorry you got that impression. Here, I'll make the meaning clear. The pictures were a counter-example to Hanks pictures, in order to pose him as a redneck, and white trash.
If I were to post "Anti-White" pictures, I could have easily found pictures from the LA riots, or perhaps white people being slaughtered in Vietnam, but I'm not "Anti-White." I'm "Anti-Whitetrash."

PS. If you believe in the superiority of the Aryan race, slavery, or most other ideals which are racist in nature, most people will think you are whitetrash. Even if this happens to not be the case, popular opinion is popular opinion, so perhaps you guys should go about expressing your views in a more eloquent fashion.

Fruitacious B · 02-20-2004, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dirty Harry:
Fuck each and everyone of you. I wonder if he'd of posted a picture of a white person hanging if any of you faggot motherfuckers would have given two shits. Oh wait, I know that you wouldn't have fucking cared, you probably would have laughed. So basically I'm saying fuck all of you, especailly you DJ FC, you can go fuck yourself, you too Jewbie.

What he said.

-Ugly Bastard</font>[/quote]

Mr. Blonde · 02-20-2004, 11:12 PM

Ok, pretty sure i already took that comment out a couple posts ago, anything new?

VOL · 02-20-2004, 11:21 PM

No. Shut up.

02-20-2004, 05:51 AM	#53 (permalink)
Hank Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 175 Internets: 229	There's no reason to speak down to me, Active. I removed the pictures and links out of respect to you and board. I realize that you don't understand and agree with my point of view on many things, but I request respect in return. I asked a simple question. Between what you've posted here and what was said between us via IM, you have not been clear at all regarding whether or not the pictures had to be removed. How about a simple fucking answer.
	Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can ever turn it into a fact.<br />-Balzac

02-20-2004, 05:57 AM	#54 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	You did not give me a simple fucking answer. Look back several previous posts. it's the first FUCKING question I asked you. Yes, I am speaking down to you, mainly because of what you have said when you edited the picture out. Is that a simple fucking answer? and pliedes, sure. from now on, any hate towards anything is illegal. is that what you wanted to hear? personally, i think it's a pretty simple issue. are you advocating hate or violence towards a particular group of people? If so, it's illegal. for some reaosn i feel like i'm talking to a three year old that shits his pants and asks his parents if he can eat it because it looks like a candy bar.
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02-20-2004, 06:03 AM	#57 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	http://ev1servers.net/english/aboutus/aup.asp Sub: OF EV1Servers ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY pasted here: Harm to minors: Use of the EV1Servers service to harm, or attempt to harm, minors in any way, including, but not limited to child pornography. Threats: Use of the EV1Servers service to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that threatens or encourages bodily harm or destruction of property. Harassment: Use of the EV1Servers service to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that harasses another. Feel free to read through the policy. It's a good read. ....
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02-20-2004, 06:06 AM	#59 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	I've got a pretty pissy attitude towards it, because it can be interpretted however you want. I'd venture to say about 80% of posts on here in some way make a violation. However, when it is very blunt and directed towards a whole race of people, it brings immediate concern for anyone browsing the pages.
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02-20-2004, 06:10 AM	#60 (permalink)
Hank Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 175 Internets: 229	I read through that and don't see anything about not being able to link to pro-white sites or post pictures like the ones you made me take down.
	Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can ever turn it into a fact.<br />-Balzac

02-20-2004, 05:51 AM	#52 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	Active you know i'm not trying to be a dick about this. I'm not trying to get the board to suffer, i just want to know what exactly the guidelines are gonna be. because if posting derogatory pictures of blacks is hateful, then so is posting derogatory pictures of whites. For instance, what if I made a post detailing how I hated Purdue University?

02-20-2004, 06:04 AM	#58 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	Thanks, honestly. that's what i was looking for.

02-20-2004, 06:17 AM	#61 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	No, it doesn't. It also doesn't say that it is against policy to have a website which lists valid credit card numbers available for use w/fraud. It does however say, that illegal use, is disallowed. And it also says encouraging threats or bodily harm is against the terms. Is what you posted (pictures and links) against those terms? I have reason to believe they are--because you're intention seems to be so. You never answered my SIMPLE FUCKING QUESTION to me pictures of a certain race hanging, then posting additional pictures, in addition to links which praise the extermination of a race fit into this category. i'd also go as far to say that it also fits in yours. You were guilty enough to begin with to take it down. Are your posts truly about historY?
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02-20-2004, 07:04 AM	#63 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	hey hank, if you wanna keep voicing your hate towards African Americans, how bout you voice it to me bitch, ill kick your ass. There is not one thing wrong with black people, at OSU we are very diverse, my roomate is black, and he's one of the coolest people i know, so fuck you if you're going to be posting this type of shit about them, ill beat your ass.

02-20-2004, 11:58 AM	#64 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	And I'll watch and place my money on buckeye. *sits and wonders if Hank has accepted Jewbie's OST invitation.
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02-20-2004, 12:35 PM	#66 (permalink)
Jewbie Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tel Aviv Posts: 74 Internets: 10	I already have qualms with you anyhow....Im with Buckeye, and ill place my bet on him too...Oh, and if you havent noticed...you are the minority, their is no superior white race, and you can go lick hitler's dead white ass hole....you racist PUTZ [ February 20, 2004, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: Jewbie ]
	Shalom my brothers

02-20-2004, 05:20 PM	#67 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,150 Internets: 284753	Fuck each and everyone of you. I wonder if he'd of posted a picture of a white person hanging if any of you faggot motherfuckers would have given two shits. Oh wait, I know that you wouldn't have fucking cared, you probably would have laughed. So basically I'm saying fuck all of you, especailly you DJ FC, you can go fuck yourself, you too Jewbie. This isn't directed at Active, b/c he has a business to run and I understand completely why he would have a problem with the pictures. The NAACP would be all over his ass if they saw that. [ February 20, 2004, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Dirty Harry ]

02-20-2004, 05:37 PM	#68 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	What you seem to be overlooking is the fact that he put "Happy Black History Month" as the title for this thread. If he had put up just a picture of a black man hanging it would most likely be viewed as disturbing, and could be misconstrued as racist. This is undoubtabley an attempt at some form of racism. If we had a "white history month" with the same background as african americans in this society, and someone put a picture of a white person hanging, then yes, it would also be see as racism. Fact is i dont care whether you like it or not, because of America's history there will most likely always be a double standard, so quit using that "But what about us?" excuse
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

02-20-2004, 05:43 PM	#69 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Racism isn't the point. It's the fact that he was using pictures in combination with links and texts which suggested violence should be carried out.
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02-20-2004, 06:50 PM	#71 (permalink)
BarryJive Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bloomington Posts: 358 Internets: 44	I doubt you'll find many pictures of white people hanging while hundreds of black people stand around and laugh about it.
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02-20-2004, 11:12 PM	#74 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Ok, pretty sure i already took that comment out a couple posts ago, anything new?
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

02-20-2004, 11:21 PM	#75 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	No. Shut up.
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