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Nathan · 02-17-2004, 10:30 PM

Hey guys, to those of you care, knew that I was hosting a UO shard named Nubblies Shard. Recently I decided that I couldn't do it anymore, or didnt want to do it anymore, so I handed over the shard hosting to someone else. This was someone from my OSI guild, someone that I talk to everyday, so I thought everything would be alright. Well turns up, there making some crazy ass changes to the shard now, things I would have never done. They claim the shard is doing better now then before, well thats bullshit.

They dont understand that the way SKBK has fun in UO is shit talking and causing others grief. IMO causing others lose and pain in UO probably was one of the most fun things in the game, that is why old school UO with constant pking was the best.

Im sorry I promised you guys a shard that would never come down, a shard with all these great features. I firstly thought I could handle it on my own, however I soon found out that wasn't the case. I thought that these guys could handle the shard, and wouldn't change every fucking thing on the shard overnight, I was wrong. So I apologize. Im sorry there giving Nubblies a bad name, in fact, ill see into them getting the name changed.

Only reason I went with them doing the hosting rather then Active was because these are guys I have been playing OSI with forever, where as I hardly know Active. Plus this way I dont need to be affliated at all, which turns out to be a bad thing.

Anyways.. just felt like letting you all know where I stand. I tried my best, I learned alot personal through this experience, and if I ever try to pull something like this off again ill make sure it goes through without fuck ups.

[ February 17, 2004, 07:32 PM: Message edited by: Nathan ]

AcTivE · 02-17-2004, 11:24 PM

Should have talked to us...

It's all good.

Nathan · 02-17-2004, 11:29 PM

Well see thats the thing. Im kinda stuck in the middle of this. I like all the guys here at nubblies, but yet I still like all of my old OSI buddies. I have known the OSI guys better then you active, no offense but you came off pretty shady, so I put them in charge instead of you.

Either way, some people weren't going to be happy, so it was a lose-lose situation.

VOL · 02-17-2004, 11:36 PM

Active...shady. No way.

AcTivE · 02-17-2004, 11:39 PM

The reason your OSI buddies would be pissed is cause they wouldn't have GM status. They cheat. There is no way around it. If there were logs--you would be able to see.

When there is cheating--there is no point to play. Whenever someone has a GM character--they are always going to be better.

It would have been so easy to build the shard up player-wise ....I know stuff about building webpages, etc. And I promise you that a lot of people from nubblies would play, as long as they knew how. Shard is a piece of shit now...just logged on and gave all my shit away.

reference for others:

http://www.nubblies.net/cgi-bin/ubb/.../f/16/t/000017

[ February 17, 2004, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: AcTivE ]

Nathan · 02-17-2004, 11:40 PM

I think it was him, the first day on my shard asking everyone for there icq # that made me think this lol. Im not really sure what he would have done with our icq #'s if anyone told him, but was just kinda odd I guess. I eventually learned though, he does random shit like this time to time, so it was nothing out of the ordinary for him.

[ February 17, 2004, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: Nathan ]

AcTivE · 02-17-2004, 11:42 PM

Man I was saying that because for some reason I thought it was funny at the moment. And, it had to have been, because I was laughing.

I just wanted ICQ#s so I could have cyber sex with the dudes..

Nathan · 02-18-2004, 12:12 AM

Well, robby is a RL friend, and his situation was a little different, he was going to quit regardless, but I see what your saying, there an ass to everyone.

I dont have access to the logs anymore, so I cant verify if they are cheating, but I wouldn't be surprised.

To be honest after running the shard for as long as I did, I didn't like were it was going even w/ my leadership. I realized that I don't really like all the AOS changes, and the only truely good shard I could have ran would have been pre AOS, back before the magic item changes and such.

Maybe this is a new project we could do, maybe w/ your hosting. Im just not up for it right now, I might give a little bit of help, but not much. Im done worrying, caring, or thinking about whats become of the old shard. I put my time in, and had fun while it lasted.

It just doesn't help when both sides here are telling me what I should of shouldn't of done. I dont care anymore.

And, once again, I apologize for giving Nubblies a bad name, but im done trying to fix this shit.

[ February 17, 2004, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Nathan ]

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 12:20 AM

I'm really thinking about getting a windows server (not connected to cable--100mbs connection).

My brother and I are going to do some stuff with it...Anyways.

If you have any interest in it, let me know, and I'll talk with you about what you were thinking you wanted it to be.

Nathan · 02-18-2004, 12:22 AM

Thats cool, maybe. My main concern now is the name... Im assuming you would want it to be Nubblies Shard. That name is sorta taken now... and they for whatever reason still want to keep it. Even after how much they supposidly hate everyone from here, I dont get it. They claim it would be too much work to switch, and they would lose there playerbase. What playerbase?

Anyways, I might help out a little bit. I could GM for ya at least, not really up for a bunch of scripting though, but I know UO in and out so I could definetely help with pages and shit, if thats even needed.

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 12:28 AM

They don't have the name. It'd be so easy to knock them out of Google...it's not even an issue.

If you are talking about the Gateway thing...all that would need to be done is switch it to 'Official Nubblies Shard'. The shard sucks, and it's not going to last. If you want to build a player base off of actually nubblies (instead of stealing it like those cumsucking lapnappers) it wouldn't be that hard. It is going to be at least March before I get a server though...

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 12:34 AM

By the way, you might want to tell you friends to take off the name [img]smile.gif[/img] . After thinking about it for a few minutes, it really makes me mad.

I'm going to contact their ISP (running servers is more than likely a violation of their TOS), and let them know they are running a server, in addition to using a trademark to market their illegal services. I'm not bullshitting around--I'll give em until the time the UO forums are closed.

Nathan · 02-18-2004, 12:44 AM

Wait what trademark are you talking about? He runs it on a T1, not im not who his ISP is, or if its a violation, youd have to check into that.

I dont want anymore shit to come between me and them, so if you could give them a fair warning on the otherboards w/o making me do it, id appreciate it.

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 12:46 AM

Trademark: http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2001...01-01-all.html

more importantly:

http://copylaw.com/new_articles/trademrk.html#earn

I'm looking up the terms of service now for Verizon. I've posted the link to this thread.

[ February 17, 2004, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: AcTivE ]

Pliedes · 02-18-2004, 12:53 AM

I still have no idea what's going on, but if we're gonna take down some fuckers who are dragging nubblies name through the dirt, just tell me what to do.

Nathan · 02-18-2004, 12:54 AM

Active read your PMs or jump on icq...

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 12:57 AM

Basically, some fuckers thought they were better than me. They pissed me off, so now I'm going through the legal shit to get them fucked up.

My basis is this. Verizon, I can almost guarantee--does not allow people to run servers from their machines. Almost NO ISP, allows this. A Server is something that draws a lot of inbound traffic--exactly what this game is.

Besides that, they want to keep the name 'Nubblies' for the game. This is illegal, because 'Nubblies' is a trademark. A trademark DOES NOT have to be registered to exist (follow the second link). What it sums up to--is that there is an computer using a trademark, illegally, to host an illegal emulation of a game, and is also against the terms of service of their ISP.

My hopes are that he will have his connection completely removed. Of course, I will only proceed if he doesn't comply with the terms. The terms being, he says 'yes, i'm your bitch, i will remove the name'

Not a good move Cheeba.

Nathan · 02-18-2004, 12:58 AM

Hey now, Edwina/Holy Light is hosting, not cheeba. Make sure your getting the right ISP.

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 01:02 AM

I'm getting the right ISP, cheeba is just the one that made the last post.

I made some changes from the PM.

Make sure they know...I'll be writing a formal email to Verizon once I find the TOS.

Nathan · 02-18-2004, 01:06 AM

You might wanna hit the other thread up w/ the above links proving this is a trademark, hes not buying it. He said something about paying $4.99 right now to trademark it or some shit, not sure whats going on.

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 01:07 AM

I'm going to post the links...from there, you will need to convince him, or lead him to this post.

Rishnak · 02-18-2004, 01:19 AM

Not worth my time! You already lose

[ February 18, 2004, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Rishnak ]

BigDongedHoe · 02-18-2004, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rishnak:
Dude grow up man, there is nothing you can do to the nubbliesshard. Notice how i said nubbliesshard lol where is the trade mark its a game dude.get over it lol,wtf Nathan why you getting so involved when in teamspeak and say you want nothing to do with it, whats the above lines about? move on get over it there are other shards for you to join, And I see no trade mark in "Nubbliesshard" your is called nubblies.net hmm I wanna see this.

You're a fucking jew dude, you guys have turned the shard into a shit hole. It won't last because it's one of the poorest run player shards I've seen since "New Sosaria" came along. Fuck you dude straight up your expanded over vasolined ass. You guys won't change the name because you can't come up with anything for yourself you fucking unoriginal bastards.

AcTivE · 02-18-2004, 01:26 AM

Let see what Verizon thinks of it Rishnak [img]smile.gif[/img] . If you don't post a reply, saying it will be removed, I will take that as a 'Yes', proceed.

Good day, sir [img]smile.gif[/img]

Rishnak · 02-18-2004, 01:26 AM

lol you know its a cool shard thats why you guys are all mad. this is killing me lol, A BYE BYE!

02-17-2004, 11:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Should have talked to us... It's all good.
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02-17-2004, 11:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	Active...shady. No way.
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02-17-2004, 11:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	The reason your OSI buddies would be pissed is cause they wouldn't have GM status. They cheat. There is no way around it. If there were logs--you would be able to see. When there is cheating--there is no point to play. Whenever someone has a GM character--they are always going to be better. It would have been so easy to build the shard up player-wise ....I know stuff about building webpages, etc. And I promise you that a lot of people from nubblies would play, as long as they knew how. Shard is a piece of shit now...just logged on and gave all my shit away. reference for others: http://www.nubblies.net/cgi-bin/ubb/.../f/16/t/000017 [ February 17, 2004, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: AcTivE ]
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02-17-2004, 11:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Man I was saying that because for some reason I thought it was funny at the moment. And, it had to have been, because I was laughing. I just wanted ICQ#s so I could have cyber sex with the dudes..
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02-18-2004, 12:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	I'm really thinking about getting a windows server (not connected to cable--100mbs connection). My brother and I are going to do some stuff with it...Anyways. If you have any interest in it, let me know, and I'll talk with you about what you were thinking you wanted it to be.
	___________________ 3:o) horned creatures...wat wat ___________________

02-17-2004, 10:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	Hey guys, to those of you care, knew that I was hosting a UO shard named Nubblies Shard. Recently I decided that I couldn't do it anymore, or didnt want to do it anymore, so I handed over the shard hosting to someone else. This was someone from my OSI guild, someone that I talk to everyday, so I thought everything would be alright. Well turns up, there making some crazy ass changes to the shard now, things I would have never done. They claim the shard is doing better now then before, well thats bullshit. They dont understand that the way SKBK has fun in UO is shit talking and causing others grief. IMO causing others lose and pain in UO probably was one of the most fun things in the game, that is why old school UO with constant pking was the best. Im sorry I promised you guys a shard that would never come down, a shard with all these great features. I firstly thought I could handle it on my own, however I soon found out that wasn't the case. I thought that these guys could handle the shard, and wouldn't change every fucking thing on the shard overnight, I was wrong. So I apologize. Im sorry there giving Nubblies a bad name, in fact, ill see into them getting the name changed. Only reason I went with them doing the hosting rather then Active was because these are guys I have been playing OSI with forever, where as I hardly know Active. Plus this way I dont need to be affliated at all, which turns out to be a bad thing. Anyways.. just felt like letting you all know where I stand. I tried my best, I learned alot personal through this experience, and if I ever try to pull something like this off again ill make sure it goes through without fuck ups. [ February 17, 2004, 07:32 PM: Message edited by: Nathan ]

02-17-2004, 11:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	Well see thats the thing. Im kinda stuck in the middle of this. I like all the guys here at nubblies, but yet I still like all of my old OSI buddies. I have known the OSI guys better then you active, no offense but you came off pretty shady, so I put them in charge instead of you. Either way, some people weren't going to be happy, so it was a lose-lose situation.

02-17-2004, 11:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	I think it was him, the first day on my shard asking everyone for there icq # that made me think this lol. Im not really sure what he would have done with our icq #'s if anyone told him, but was just kinda odd I guess. I eventually learned though, he does random shit like this time to time, so it was nothing out of the ordinary for him. [ February 17, 2004, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: Nathan ]

02-18-2004, 12:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	Well, robby is a RL friend, and his situation was a little different, he was going to quit regardless, but I see what your saying, there an ass to everyone. I dont have access to the logs anymore, so I cant verify if they are cheating, but I wouldn't be surprised. To be honest after running the shard for as long as I did, I didn't like were it was going even w/ my leadership. I realized that I don't really like all the AOS changes, and the only truely good shard I could have ran would have been pre AOS, back before the magic item changes and such. Maybe this is a new project we could do, maybe w/ your hosting. Im just not up for it right now, I might give a little bit of help, but not much. Im done worrying, caring, or thinking about whats become of the old shard. I put my time in, and had fun while it lasted. It just doesn't help when both sides here are telling me what I should of shouldn't of done. I dont care anymore. And, once again, I apologize for giving Nubblies a bad name, but im done trying to fix this shit. [ February 17, 2004, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Nathan ]

02-18-2004, 12:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	Thats cool, maybe. My main concern now is the name... Im assuming you would want it to be Nubblies Shard. That name is sorta taken now... and they for whatever reason still want to keep it. Even after how much they supposidly hate everyone from here, I dont get it. They claim it would be too much work to switch, and they would lose there playerbase. What playerbase? Anyways, I might help out a little bit. I could GM for ya at least, not really up for a bunch of scripting though, but I know UO in and out so I could definetely help with pages and shit, if thats even needed.

02-18-2004, 12:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	They don't have the name. It'd be so easy to knock them out of Google...it's not even an issue. If you are talking about the Gateway thing...all that would need to be done is switch it to 'Official Nubblies Shard'. The shard sucks, and it's not going to last. If you want to build a player base off of actually nubblies (instead of stealing it like those cumsucking lapnappers) it wouldn't be that hard. It is going to be at least March before I get a server though...
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02-18-2004, 12:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	By the way, you might want to tell you friends to take off the name [img]smile.gif[/img] . After thinking about it for a few minutes, it really makes me mad. I'm going to contact their ISP (running servers is more than likely a violation of their TOS), and let them know they are running a server, in addition to using a trademark to market their illegal services. I'm not bullshitting around--I'll give em until the time the UO forums are closed.
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02-18-2004, 12:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	Wait what trademark are you talking about? He runs it on a T1, not im not who his ISP is, or if its a violation, youd have to check into that. I dont want anymore shit to come between me and them, so if you could give them a fair warning on the otherboards w/o making me do it, id appreciate it.

02-18-2004, 12:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Trademark: http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2001...01-01-all.html more importantly: http://copylaw.com/new_articles/trademrk.html#earn I'm looking up the terms of service now for Verizon. I've posted the link to this thread. [ February 17, 2004, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: AcTivE ]
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02-18-2004, 12:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	I still have no idea what's going on, but if we're gonna take down some fuckers who are dragging nubblies name through the dirt, just tell me what to do.

02-18-2004, 12:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	Active read your PMs or jump on icq...

02-18-2004, 12:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Basically, some fuckers thought they were better than me. They pissed me off, so now I'm going through the legal shit to get them fucked up. My basis is this. Verizon, I can almost guarantee--does not allow people to run servers from their machines. Almost NO ISP, allows this. A Server is something that draws a lot of inbound traffic--exactly what this game is. Besides that, they want to keep the name 'Nubblies' for the game. This is illegal, because 'Nubblies' is a trademark. A trademark DOES NOT have to be registered to exist (follow the second link). What it sums up to--is that there is an computer using a trademark, illegally, to host an illegal emulation of a game, and is also against the terms of service of their ISP. My hopes are that he will have his connection completely removed. Of course, I will only proceed if he doesn't comply with the terms. The terms being, he says 'yes, i'm your bitch, i will remove the name' Not a good move Cheeba.
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02-18-2004, 12:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	Hey now, Edwina/Holy Light is hosting, not cheeba. Make sure your getting the right ISP.

02-18-2004, 01:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	I'm getting the right ISP, cheeba is just the one that made the last post. I made some changes from the PM. Make sure they know...I'll be writing a formal email to Verizon once I find the TOS.
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02-18-2004, 01:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
Nathan Nasty Nate Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 627 Internets: 4881	You might wanna hit the other thread up w/ the above links proving this is a trademark, hes not buying it. He said something about paying $4.99 right now to trademark it or some shit, not sure whats going on.

02-18-2004, 01:07 AM	#21 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	I'm going to post the links...from there, you will need to convince him, or lead him to this post.
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02-18-2004, 01:19 AM	#22 (permalink)
Rishnak Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 6 Internets: 10	Not worth my time! You already lose [ February 18, 2004, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Rishnak ]

02-18-2004, 01:26 AM	#24 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Let see what Verizon thinks of it Rishnak [img]smile.gif[/img] . If you don't post a reply, saying it will be removed, I will take that as a 'Yes', proceed. Good day, sir [img]smile.gif[/img]
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02-18-2004, 01:26 AM	#25 (permalink)
Rishnak Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 6 Internets: 10	lol you know its a cool shard thats why you guys are all mad. this is killing me lol, A BYE BYE!