The Future of the Human Race.

[Mr. Blonde]

you've officially triggered me motherfucker, congratulations

Originally Posted by Dent

Q : When awake/dreaming/meditating/druggy loser do you think you ever have access to the "real world" or "reality"?

I discern what I call my own personal reality through the facts of what I experience -- senses, touch, sight, sound, etc. These could be "real", they could be "not real" (something you are much less open to than me, for the record). It is an irrelevant question. It's all that is ever happening. Everything that will ever happen to you will happen to you through your senses.

The thoughts that the brain generates are not one of these senses. As long as a person identifies primarily (or, more hellishly, solely) on mental "stories" they are living in a kind of illusion, maya. Their own conditioning and past, often taken not only for granted but with the expectation that everyone else has experienced the same, acts a colored lense through which one interprets the datum of the senses.

The brain is merely a tool for using these senses in a constructive or creative way, but because of the nature in language, the average ape gets mesmerized in the complexity of ideas and belief systems (including your own strong belief systems) and denies the senses, denies the reality of their own living experience, instead choosing the cloudy haze of the symbols in language as the primary basis of reality. The fact that most people identify with their thoughts and mental constructions versus the physical reality of their senses is the reason many of us are indeed living in Hell, which is and always has been a psychological state and nothing more.

Of course we need symbols to speak and interact, but it only matters if you have something noble or worthwhile to talk about. It's one of the reasons I don't really like to talk much anymore, or see people, or "hang out". Unless they are interested in talking about the things that matter (practical, effective, "things we can do right now that don't involve armchair philosophizing" methods of improving the world, even one's own), then there is nothing to talk about.

The reason I ask about your mission is because you're not particularly fun to talk to. You're very closed-minded, truth be told, and at your current stage you are only able to filter the experiences of others (including the language they use to try to to connect with you) by filtering it through your highly exclusionary lexicon of complex scientific terms that, as I have already said, are merely contemporary renamings of ideas and concepts that predate modern science by millennia.

You're simply barking up the wrong tree conversationally here. Outside of me, who ONLY knows the terminology that you use because you make it impossible to communicate on a base level otherwise, there is no one here to talk to you about the things you want to.

I find it amusing you are doing it to "find out interesting things" because I find virtually (pun intended) nothing you really post interesting, probably because you drag it down with a weighty, square scientific language that is, as I have said, just ape gibberish. But maybe it sounds pretty to you. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean with how I don't find sports interesting. I get that other people really like it. And I've tried to be interested in it. But it's just not fun. What's the last "fun" thing you posted?

But, and this is the biggest part of this whole equation: without actually having a clearly expressed personal GOAL or reason to be doing all this mental gymnastics you are doing...its a HUGE waste of your time and life. Huge. And subsequently, I realize as I write this, a waste of mine too.

As if life isn't happening to you right now. As if you couldn't be pursuing much more hedonistic imperatives than you are now.


Our fundamental disagreement is this: I am much more interested in observing and taking in as much beauty as possible in life because beauty is all that there is to experience here; nothing else matters, you can't take it with you, beauty (which some people call love) is the quality that makes life worth living for me. If it is not beautiful somehow, I don't find it interesting.


I simply can't relate to you anymore on the scientific side of things. I'm kind of "over" that, for reasons I have expressed earlier. It explains nothing, the only beauty expressed in it is very empty-feeling and has an unspoken nihilism about it. Science, at least in terms of explaining true meaning, or things like love, or empathy, or relatedness (beyond relativity), just isn't beautiful. It falls short. I know you believe it to be the end-all-be-all, but I believe that reality precedes language, and thus has qualities that are unable to be described language.

I believe you think language can describe reality totally with the right scientific theory, and whether you realize it or not, this drive is what compels you forward.


P.S. - I hope you take note of the lack of block quotes, unreferenced quotes I expect you to know the authors of, long videos with barely a sentence of explanation that I expect you to watch on your own free time simply because I posted it, etcetera. Also note how personal this has been about trying to talk to you as a friend would talk to a friend; open, vulnerable, and genuine. I'm not trying to hide behind a veil of confusing half-formed sentences and philosophical elitism.

P.S.S. - Just to continue my good social example of actually answering your questions genuinely and specifically: "What Concepts?"

Any concept that may describe reality that is outside of your extremely limited scientific viewpoint. Psychological concepts that may explain and indeed expose a certain psychological bias you may hold that you may not even be aware of and indeed may be subconsciously avoiding the discovery of. Mythological motifs and archetypes that describe the human journey, long before your own personal ego (mask) popped out of your mum's lotus-flower. Any of these concepts. Literally anything to expand your worldview past the scientific cage of terminology it is currently trapped in.