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Orgazmo 11-19-2008 04:27 PM

Adding to that, one of the queerest names imo is Manny.

SnakeInTheGrass 11-24-2008 06:19 PM

brayden

THEINCREDIBLEdork 12-27-2008 01:29 AM

Why don't gay guys every hit on me?

Mr. Blonde 12-27-2008 11:19 AM

call up my brother

Repugnant Abomination 12-27-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by THEINCREDIBLEdork (Post 371408)
Why don't gay guys every hit on me?

I hit on you all the time.

THEINCREDIBLEdork 03-06-2009 01:45 PM

Tabatha

Thats a funny name.

Mr. Blonde 09-19-2009 11:30 PM

Question: Besides genetic randomness, what influences the inherent potential of intelligence of a child when it is born? Clearly we have geniuses and prodigies on the planet and many times (although not always) these come from a pair of intelligent parents.

Corresponding question: Say there are two adult clones (or twins, if you prefer) of average intelligence exactly the same physiologically, but with two vastly different lives. Person A gets a minimum education, works in the service industry his whole life, and has a child, say a boy, with a woman of average intelligence. Person B (remember, both of average intelligence) works very hard to go to college, graduate school, and let's say gets his PHD or Doctorate in some field, and also has a boy with a woman of average intelligence.

Because of Person B's intelligence gain over his entire life, is he more likely to produce an inherently more intelligent child than Person A? If not, is genetic randomness the only determining factor in natural genius?

THEINCREDIBLEdork 09-19-2009 11:59 PM

first of all, your intelligence is not affected by your level of education. The two clones will have the same intelligence quotient regardless of their education. Now if one of them went through some kind of sensory deprivation or malnutrition during his development then that would be a different case.

Intelligence is completely genetic, you are born with it. Genetics are not random, granite, randomness is a component of it. Genetics are correlative. You will have 50% of your father's genes and 50% of your mother's genes. The more "smart" genes they have the better chance their children will be smart.

Mr. Blonde 09-20-2009 12:04 AM

So really, the only way for a human to be a genius (anomalies aside) is generations of breeding between progressively more intelligent beings. a quisatz haderach, if you will.

THEINCREDIBLEdork 09-20-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde (Post 384135)
So really, the only way for a human to be a genius (anomalies aside) is generations of breeding between progressively more intelligent beings. a quisatz haderach, if you will.

shut the fuck up

Mr. Blonde 09-20-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by THEINCREDIBLEdork (Post 384134)
first of all, your intelligence is not affected by your level of education. The two clones will have the same intelligence quotient regardless of their education.

I would like a bit more clarification on this. I've never taken an IQ test (the standard of which i'm assuming one's IQ would be measured in this case) and consider myself of "average" intelligence. However, pending the test is like most tests and tests knowledge (which can be learned through education; really, there isn't a lot that CAN'T be learned) doesn't it depend on when the person takes this test? For example, would Person B score the same IQ at age 18, before college, as he would at 27, when he is done with his studies?

THEINCREDIBLEdork 09-20-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde (Post 384137)
For example, would Person B score the same IQ at age 18, before college, as he would at 27, when he is done with his studies?

Yes.

An IQ test doesn't test knowledge.

THEINCREDIBLEdork 09-20-2009 12:30 AM

here is an article on the subject.

Heritability of IQ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

edit: I just read it and its a pretty poor article. nature vs. nurture is a touchy subject for some people. especially people with low intelligence.

THEINCREDIBLEdork 09-20-2009 12:45 AM

it's also important to note that IQ is a measure of intelligence and not intelligence itself. If a test uses vocabulary or word analogies a person who had more schooling might have a small leg up in the test.

but there are different IQ tests, and some are made to have no requirements on what language you speak.

for example an analogy test can use pictures instead of words

Dent 09-20-2009 02:09 PM

You can train for IQ tests pretty easily, also some woman told me they are bias towards men.

THEINCREDIBLEdork 09-20-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dent (Post 384154)
some woman told me they are bias towards men.

lol

f3lix 09-20-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dent (Post 384154)
also some woman told me they are bias towards men.

Hilarious. They are biased towards logic, which men are naturally WAY better. In a way, she is right, although I'm sure she doesn't know why.

DDTempest 09-20-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde (Post 384129)
Question: Besides genetic randomness, what influences the inherent potential of intelligence of a child when it is born? Clearly we have geniuses and prodigies on the planet and many times (although not always) these come from a pair of intelligent parents.

Corresponding question: Say there are two adult clones (or twins, if you prefer) of average intelligence exactly the same physiologically, but with two vastly different lives. Person A gets a minimum education, works in the service industry his whole life, and has a child, say a boy, with a woman of average intelligence. Person B (remember, both of average intelligence) works very hard to go to college, graduate school, and let's say gets his PHD or Doctorate in some field, and also has a boy with a woman of average intelligence.

Because of Person B's intelligence gain over his entire life, is he more likely to produce an inherently more intelligent child than Person A? If not, is genetic randomness the only determining factor in natural genius?

Intelligence is obtained through the way you approach the wealth of knowledge around you. Intelligent parents will generally have and teach better habits to their children. Add in some genetic predisposition towards being more attentive, retaining information better, etc etc etc and you are well on your way. Certainly genetics plays into it to an extent, but after working with the socioeconomically disadvantaged I can tell you that their lack of intelligence is purely a cultural phenomenon resulting from their priorities based on appearances of significance instead of intelligence or the application of knowledge. This is why even intelligent or successful niggers always end up broke.

Ugly Bastard 09-20-2009 11:36 PM

Wow you sounded pretty stupid in that post.

DDTempest 09-21-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard (Post 384177)
Wow you sounded pretty stupid in that post.

Obviously you didn't highlight the entire text box to reveal the secret decoder message.

Orgazmo 09-21-2009 12:14 AM

You need to use the [spoiler] tag instead of blacking out text. How's a guy to know you had a hidden gem there?

A guy isn't to know.

Mr. Blonde 09-21-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DDTempest (Post 384176)
... I can tell you that their lack of intelligence is purely a cultural phenomenon resulting from their priorities based on appearances of significance instead of intelligence or the application of knowledge

I would like to hear more about your experiences, possibly a thread? I'm sure you see more of that crap than most of us. Obviously I know what your'e referring to on a general scale, but can i get more specific examples of this appearance of significance? Surely you've brought this up to them somehow (in the same way I bring up to somebody why in the hell they're buying a really nice, new car they can barely afford), what is their response?

DDTempest 09-21-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Orgazmo (Post 384179)
You need to use the [spoiler] tag instead of blacking out text. How's a guy to know you had a hidden gem there?

A guy isn't to know.

Then it wouldn't be a secret decoder message. I'm intending to hide them in a number of my posts from now on. This post contains nothing of significance.

DJ FC 10-15-2009 04:20 PM

RTotD:

I'm glad I don't know F3lix in real life.

Ugly Bastard 10-15-2009 07:09 PM

Knowing f3lix IRL has been exceptionally rewarding to this point. Otherwise I would have never met Charlotte.


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