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Spice Master
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call up my brother
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Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing.
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Spice Master
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Question: Besides genetic randomness, what influences the inherent potential of intelligence of a child when it is born? Clearly we have geniuses and prodigies on the planet and many times (although not always) these come from a pair of intelligent parents.
Corresponding question: Say there are two adult clones (or twins, if you prefer) of average intelligence exactly the same physiologically, but with two vastly different lives. Person A gets a minimum education, works in the service industry his whole life, and has a child, say a boy, with a woman of average intelligence. Person B (remember, both of average intelligence) works very hard to go to college, graduate school, and let's say gets his PHD or Doctorate in some field, and also has a boy with a woman of average intelligence. Because of Person B's intelligence gain over his entire life, is he more likely to produce an inherently more intelligent child than Person A? If not, is genetic randomness the only determining factor in natural genius? |
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first of all, your intelligence is not affected by your level of education. The two clones will have the same intelligence quotient regardless of their education. Now if one of them went through some kind of sensory deprivation or malnutrition during his development then that would be a different case.
Intelligence is completely genetic, you are born with it. Genetics are not random, granite, randomness is a component of it. Genetics are correlative. You will have 50% of your father's genes and 50% of your mother's genes. The more "smart" genes they have the better chance their children will be smart. |
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#YOLO
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I would like a bit more clarification on this. I've never taken an IQ test (the standard of which i'm assuming one's IQ would be measured in this case) and consider myself of "average" intelligence. However, pending the test is like most tests and tests knowledge (which can be learned through education; really, there isn't a lot that CAN'T be learned) doesn't it depend on when the person takes this test? For example, would Person B score the same IQ at age 18, before college, as he would at 27, when he is done with his studies?
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Emperor Meow
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here is an article on the subject.
Heritability of IQ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia edit: I just read it and its a pretty poor article. nature vs. nurture is a touchy subject for some people. especially people with low intelligence. |
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#YOLO
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it's also important to note that IQ is a measure of intelligence and not intelligence itself. If a test uses vocabulary or word analogies a person who had more schooling might have a small leg up in the test.
but there are different IQ tests, and some are made to have no requirements on what language you speak. for example an analogy test can use pictures instead of words |
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#YOLO
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I would like to hear more about your experiences, possibly a thread? I'm sure you see more of that crap than most of us. Obviously I know what your'e referring to on a general scale, but can i get more specific examples of this appearance of significance? Surely you've brought this up to them somehow (in the same way I bring up to somebody why in the hell they're buying a really nice, new car they can barely afford), what is their response?
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Ahoy Fuckbag
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Then it wouldn't be a secret decoder message. I'm intending to hide them in a number of my posts from now on. This post contains nothing of significance.
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