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ninjaface · 05-18-2006, 12:19 AM

Prove it.

Beebs · 05-18-2006, 01:52 AM

Well the best way to do that would be to have somebody make a flash video then take a vauge stance implying that you agree with it, then after the first one gets beat up all over the internet, have a sequel made, and repeat the process.

SittinOnDubsWGW · 05-18-2006, 03:07 AM

this is all shit we saw forever ago. I think the government is just behind the times. I think its legit. Whether the conspiracy theorists think differently is with them. I'd be surprised if any other "better footage" is ever released, bc this is probalby the best there is.

Fuck the terroisists. Chances are, that is allthat really ahppehned. Some things just sound odd, but reallly, thats probalby all that really appened.

ninjaface · 05-18-2006, 05:11 PM

Yeah. That is probably what happened. But there is a lot that the governemnt isn't telling us. And that bothers me. Some people like to blindly accept everything they are told by their government. And that is their choice. But some of us don't.

Beebs, enough with your incredibly clever insinuations, implying that those of us with opinions that differ from yours are retarded. What you see as a "vauge stance implying that you agree" is actually me remaining as open-minded and as objective as I can. You think I'm taking a vague stance on this issue because I won't side with you. You'd prefer that I side with you or that I accept everything that every conspiracy video says so that you can call me a retarded conspiracy theorist and be done with the argument. You will never be able to convince me one way or the other, so why continue to argue? I participate in threads like this to see what other people think, not to argue with you. If your goal is to convince anyone of anything, I suggest you drop the attitude. Until that happens I will continue to place no value in the things you have to say regarding this or anyother serious topic.

I'm sure you're probably thinking, "Who gives a shit?" Niether of us, I guess.

Beebs · 05-19-2006, 01:13 AM

It was a joke in response to a joke, but in all actually I wasn't really talking about you, moreso the people who respond to such videos without fail say to say "I'm not saying I agree but it is interesting" well what part of is it interesting, and if it is interesting why don't you do some research and figure out if you at least agree or not, then if you do, why not go on and look for something credible that can back you up instead of just throwing an empty statement that is neither here nor there up? On the other hand you say you're remaining as open minded as possible, then in the same paragraph say I will never convince you of something you don't already believe or unconvince you of something you believe, yea....very open minded.

Edit: And for the record I was very willing to discuss other aspects of 9/11 in the other thread, but anybody still clinging to a non plane theory regarding the pentagon is losing respect in a big way.

ninjaface · 05-19-2006, 01:54 AM

I don't really see it as being closed minded in the broad, general sense. I'm placing no value in the things you have to say regarding this issue because you're point of view is easily replaceable. I can go find an opposing viewpoint somewhere else without having to bother with your insinuations.

And you still seem to think there is something wrong with not being sure one way or the other. You also seem to think my research is limited to "shitty flash videos". When really, the flash videos, along with recent news articles about 9/11 are the impetus to my research. I take parts of the videos and articles and try to find out more about them. I try to see if things line up. And ultimately, I don't have access to the things I need for one story or the other to truly line up. I don't see anything wrong with not taking a stance one way or another on this issue. And I really don't understand why you insist that people choose one or the other.

Ugly Bastard · 05-19-2006, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjaface

I don't see anything wrong with not taking a stance one way or another on this issue. And I really don't understand why you insist that people choose one or the other.

F'ing BINGO

Beebs · 05-19-2006, 02:48 PM

It's not about picking sides, mostly because there are a billion, it's about pointing out specifics instead of speaking in generalities. You're taking this very personally for nubblies, I'm not personally attacking you. The only thing I think is pretty rediculous is this clinging on to a theory that something other than the plane hit the pentagon, yes I understand it is suspect that the government has not released all of the tapes, but the overwhelming majority of the evidence out there makes it pretty clear what happened.

ninjaface · 05-19-2006, 03:10 PM

All I know is that something hit the pentagon. I assume its probably a plane, but there is not enough evidence to fully support that. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are to yours.

Beebs · 05-19-2006, 03:29 PM

I guess we just differ on how strong we feel that "probably" is.

And just to break balls, how do you "know" something hit the building? Is there enough evidence to fully support that it wasnt a bomb planted there? And yes that was a jokeish comment.

Beebs · 09-14-2006, 05:05 PM

Ugly Bastard · 09-14-2006, 05:34 PM

What more proof would we need than that?

05-19-2006, 01:13 AM	#30 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	It was a joke in response to a joke, but in all actually I wasn't really talking about you, moreso the people who respond to such videos without fail say to say "I'm not saying I agree but it is interesting" well what part of is it interesting, and if it is interesting why don't you do some research and figure out if you at least agree or not, then if you do, why not go on and look for something credible that can back you up instead of just throwing an empty statement that is neither here nor there up? On the other hand you say you're remaining as open minded as possible, then in the same paragraph say I will never convince you of something you don't already believe or unconvince you of something you believe, yea....very open minded. Edit: And for the record I was very willing to discuss other aspects of 9/11 in the other thread, but anybody still clinging to a non plane theory regarding the pentagon is losing respect in a big way.
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05-19-2006, 01:54 AM	#31 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	I don't really see it as being closed minded in the broad, general sense. I'm placing no value in the things you have to say regarding this issue because you're point of view is easily replaceable. I can go find an opposing viewpoint somewhere else without having to bother with your insinuations. And you still seem to think there is something wrong with not being sure one way or the other. You also seem to think my research is limited to "shitty flash videos". When really, the flash videos, along with recent news articles about 9/11 are the impetus to my research. I take parts of the videos and articles and try to find out more about them. I try to see if things line up. And ultimately, I don't have access to the things I need for one story or the other to truly line up. I don't see anything wrong with not taking a stance one way or another on this issue. And I really don't understand why you insist that people choose one or the other.
	Last edited by ninjaface; 05-19-2006 at 01:56 AM.

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05-18-2006, 12:19 AM	#26 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	Prove it.

05-18-2006, 01:52 AM	#27 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Well the best way to do that would be to have somebody make a flash video then take a vauge stance implying that you agree with it, then after the first one gets beat up all over the internet, have a sequel made, and repeat the process.

05-18-2006, 03:07 AM	#28 (permalink)
SittinOnDubsWGW I make bad decisions. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Desert Posts: 3,018 Internets: 108015	this is all shit we saw forever ago. I think the government is just behind the times. I think its legit. Whether the conspiracy theorists think differently is with them. I'd be surprised if any other "better footage" is ever released, bc this is probalby the best there is. Fuck the terroisists. Chances are, that is allthat really ahppehned. Some things just sound odd, but reallly, thats probalby all that really appened.

05-18-2006, 05:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	Yeah. That is probably what happened. But there is a lot that the governemnt isn't telling us. And that bothers me. Some people like to blindly accept everything they are told by their government. And that is their choice. But some of us don't. Beebs, enough with your incredibly clever insinuations, implying that those of us with opinions that differ from yours are retarded. What you see as a "vauge stance implying that you agree" is actually me remaining as open-minded and as objective as I can. You think I'm taking a vague stance on this issue because I won't side with you. You'd prefer that I side with you or that I accept everything that every conspiracy video says so that you can call me a retarded conspiracy theorist and be done with the argument. You will never be able to convince me one way or the other, so why continue to argue? I participate in threads like this to see what other people think, not to argue with you. If your goal is to convince anyone of anything, I suggest you drop the attitude. Until that happens I will continue to place no value in the things you have to say regarding this or anyother serious topic. I'm sure you're probably thinking, "Who gives a shit?" Niether of us, I guess.

05-19-2006, 02:48 PM	#33 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	It's not about picking sides, mostly because there are a billion, it's about pointing out specifics instead of speaking in generalities. You're taking this very personally for nubblies, I'm not personally attacking you. The only thing I think is pretty rediculous is this clinging on to a theory that something other than the plane hit the pentagon, yes I understand it is suspect that the government has not released all of the tapes, but the overwhelming majority of the evidence out there makes it pretty clear what happened.

05-19-2006, 03:10 PM	#34 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	All I know is that something hit the pentagon. I assume its probably a plane, but there is not enough evidence to fully support that. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are to yours.

05-19-2006, 03:29 PM	#35 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	I guess we just differ on how strong we feel that "probably" is. And just to break balls, how do you "know" something hit the building? Is there enough evidence to fully support that it wasnt a bomb planted there? And yes that was a jokeish comment.

09-14-2006, 05:05 PM	#36 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341

09-14-2006, 05:34 PM	#37 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	What more proof would we need than that?