New Tapes Say Bush May Have Smoked Marijuana - Nubblies.net Forums

02-21-2005, 02:12 AM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush indicated in interviews secretly taped by a friend before he became president that he had used marijuana but would not admit it for fear of setting a bad example for children.

Portions of the tapes, recorded from 1998 to 2000 by author Doug Wead without Bush's knowledge, were aired on ABC News on Sunday and published by The New York Times. Their authenticity was verified by the media outlets but has not been independently checked by Reuters.

"I wouldn't answer the marijuana question. You know why? Because I don't want some little kid doing what I tried," Bush purportedly says on the tape.

He added: "But you got to understand, I want to be president. I want to lead. I want to set -- Do you want your little kid say, 'Hey, Daddy, President Bush tried marijuana, I think I will?"'

In the tape, Bush mocks former Vice President Al Gore -- who fought him for the presidency in 2000 -- for admitting he smoked marijuana.

White House officials did not dispute the tapes' veracity and indicated the president was disappointed by their release.

"These were casual conversations that then Gov. Bush was having with someone he thought was a friend, and that's what they are," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters traveling with Bush to Europe aboard Air Force One.

NOT AWARE

McClellan said Bush, who was governor of Texas when the tapes were made, was not aware he was being recorded and the White House found out only when contacted by the New York Times for comment.

"Look, I think that, one, the comments in the tapes speak for themselves. And two, I think that what I just said pretty much speaks for itself," McClellan said when pressed about the details.

"Those were issues that were addressed ad nauseam four years ago and they were conversations that took place more than four years ago," he said, adding that Bush had not been in contact with Wead for several years.
Wead, a former aide to Bush's father President George H.W. Bush, released portions of the tapes to coincide with the publication of his new book and told ABC he made the tapes because he believed the president was an historic figure.
"If I'd had a chance to tape record Gandhi or had conversations with Churchill, I probably would have recorded them too," he said.

He also insisted his goal was not to hurt the president's credibility and said if this were the case he would have released the tapes during the 2004 election campaign.

Asked about the tapes in an interview with CNN, the president's father said he was not aware of them and declined comment.

Sitting next to Bush was ex-President Bill Clinton, who admitted to smoking marijuana when he campaigned for the White House but said he never inhaled the illegal drug.

The two former presidents are touring areas affected by the Dec. 26 Indian Ocean tsunami.

© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=7682264

Ugly Bastard · 02-21-2005, 02:17 AM

Hehe. GEOOORRRRGGGGEEE!!

-Ugly Bastard

DJ FC · 02-21-2005, 02:29 AM

I also like coke.

underwater · 02-21-2005, 08:24 PM

well more power to him. who the hell cares if he used to smoke pot sometimes, as long as he doesn't do it in office.

ninjaface · 02-21-2005, 08:30 PM

You should be more concerned about him doing coke while in office.

Niger Angelus · 02-22-2005, 12:41 AM

Yeah, I would rather he toke in the office; help him chill out a little.

St. Anky · 02-22-2005, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by underwater:
well more power to him. who the hell cares if he used to smoke pot sometimes, as long as he doesn't do it in office.

i care. he's passing himself off as a "leader sent from god" and then smokes pot. I smoke pot, i admit it, and I'm not saying its a bad drug. but i will say that if you're claiming to be a "christian" leader who supports right wing ideals, smoking pot only makes you a hypocrit.

the Butcher · 02-22-2005, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by St. Anky:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by underwater:
well more power to him. who the hell cares if he used to smoke pot sometimes, as long as he doesn't do it in office.

i care. he's passing himself off as a "leader sent from god" and then smokes pot. I smoke pot, i admit it, and I'm not saying its a bad drug. but i will say that if you're claiming to be a "christian" leader who supports right wing ideals, smoking pot only makes you a hypocrit.</font>[/quote]
Well said...in concept. It actually could have been worded much better, but I agree with what you're saying, and I'm lazy, so I just said "well said".

Fuck.

I just noticed that I was too lazy to type my own post, but yet I just spent the time to explain my...ahh fuck it. Yeh, fuck Bush.

Ugly Bastard · 02-22-2005, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by St. Anky:
i care. he's passing himself off as a "leader sent from god" and then smokes pot. I smoke pot, i admit it, and I'm not saying its a bad drug. but i will say that if you're claiming to be a "christian" leader who supports right wing ideals, smoking pot only makes you a hypocrit.

STFU Anky. That's what I hate about people these days, everyone's a one-sided motherfucker.

If Kerry won that fucking election and it came out just now that he smoked pot, your post would be very similar to underwater's. You'd think it's "fine, and he can do whatever he wants in his private time".

Don't be such a partisan fuck.

-Ugly Bastard

underwater · 02-22-2005, 02:31 AM

QUESTION: Does the fact that Bush smoked pot a few times when he was younger have any affect on his capabilities in the presidential office? NO.

Also, I don't think it makes him a hypocrite at all.. He's older now and may go by his "right-winged, christian ideals", but that doesn't mean that when he was a teenager or in his early twenties he didn't smoke pot a few times. And seriously, it doesn't fucking matter what he did in his spare time back in the day. What matters is that he doesn't do it now.

[ February 21, 2005, 11:32 PM: Message edited by: underwater ]

Beebs · 02-22-2005, 11:53 AM

Well I would say it is somewhat hypocritical, as he supports not giving any government student aid to people with prior drug arrests.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-22-2005, 02:16 PM

Well, not really, since giving student aid is still giving aid to a teenager, who most likely hasn't matured or changed his ways quite yet. Think about it, how many kids do you know who are failing out in college too much partying/drugs?

Beebs · 02-22-2005, 04:26 PM

I'm saying that he used drugs as a college age or younger person, and yet ended up the most powerful man in the world. If he believes people can change, why not give them a chance?

Ironic Mustache · 02-22-2005, 05:02 PM

Weed should be legal anyway.

underwater · 02-22-2005, 09:55 PM

no shit.

Repugnant Abomination · 02-22-2005, 10:38 PM

Bush smoking pot is the least of our worries. I'm more concerned by the fact that he thinks he talks to God.

Saint DH · 02-23-2005, 12:40 AM

I have smoked pot, and I'm still going to Be President. I see nothing wrong with it.

02-21-2005, 02:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush indicated in interviews secretly taped by a friend before he became president that he had used marijuana but would not admit it for fear of setting a bad example for children. Portions of the tapes, recorded from 1998 to 2000 by author Doug Wead without Bush's knowledge, were aired on ABC News on Sunday and published by The New York Times. Their authenticity was verified by the media outlets but has not been independently checked by Reuters. "I wouldn't answer the marijuana question. You know why? Because I don't want some little kid doing what I tried," Bush purportedly says on the tape. He added: "But you got to understand, I want to be president. I want to lead. I want to set -- Do you want your little kid say, 'Hey, Daddy, President Bush tried marijuana, I think I will?"' In the tape, Bush mocks former Vice President Al Gore -- who fought him for the presidency in 2000 -- for admitting he smoked marijuana. White House officials did not dispute the tapes' veracity and indicated the president was disappointed by their release. "These were casual conversations that then Gov. Bush was having with someone he thought was a friend, and that's what they are," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters traveling with Bush to Europe aboard Air Force One. NOT AWARE McClellan said Bush, who was governor of Texas when the tapes were made, was not aware he was being recorded and the White House found out only when contacted by the New York Times for comment. "Look, I think that, one, the comments in the tapes speak for themselves. And two, I think that what I just said pretty much speaks for itself," McClellan said when pressed about the details. "Those were issues that were addressed ad nauseam four years ago and they were conversations that took place more than four years ago," he said, adding that Bush had not been in contact with Wead for several years. Wead, a former aide to Bush's father President George H.W. Bush, released portions of the tapes to coincide with the publication of his new book and told ABC he made the tapes because he believed the president was an historic figure. "If I'd had a chance to tape record Gandhi or had conversations with Churchill, I probably would have recorded them too," he said. He also insisted his goal was not to hurt the president's credibility and said if this were the case he would have released the tapes during the 2004 election campaign. Asked about the tapes in an interview with CNN, the president's father said he was not aware of them and declined comment. Sitting next to Bush was ex-President Bill Clinton, who admitted to smoking marijuana when he campaigned for the White House but said he never inhaled the illegal drug. The two former presidents are touring areas affected by the Dec. 26 Indian Ocean tsunami. © Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=7682264
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02-21-2005, 02:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	I also like coke.
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

02-21-2005, 08:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
underwater Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: indiana Posts: 1,453 Internets: 10	well more power to him. who the hell cares if he used to smoke pot sometimes, as long as he doesn't do it in office.
	We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind, because your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine.

02-22-2005, 12:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	Yeah, I would rather he toke in the office; help him chill out a little.
	I enjoy knives and fire.

02-22-2005, 02:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
underwater Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: indiana Posts: 1,453 Internets: 10	QUESTION: Does the fact that Bush smoked pot a few times when he was younger have any affect on his capabilities in the presidential office? NO. Also, I don't think it makes him a hypocrite at all.. He's older now and may go by his "right-winged, christian ideals", but that doesn't mean that when he was a teenager or in his early twenties he didn't smoke pot a few times. And seriously, it doesn't fucking matter what he did in his spare time back in the day. What matters is that he doesn't do it now. [ February 21, 2005, 11:32 PM: Message edited by: underwater ]
	We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind, because your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine.

02-21-2005, 02:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Hehe. GEOOORRRRGGGGEEE!! -Ugly Bastard

02-21-2005, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	You should be more concerned about him doing coke while in office.

02-22-2005, 11:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Well I would say it is somewhat hypocritical, as he supports not giving any government student aid to people with prior drug arrests.

02-22-2005, 02:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	Well, not really, since giving student aid is still giving aid to a teenager, who most likely hasn't matured or changed his ways quite yet. Think about it, how many kids do you know who are failing out in college too much partying/drugs?
	#YOLO

02-22-2005, 04:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	I'm saying that he used drugs as a college age or younger person, and yet ended up the most powerful man in the world. If he believes people can change, why not give them a chance?

02-22-2005, 05:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	Weed should be legal anyway.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

02-22-2005, 09:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
underwater Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: indiana Posts: 1,453 Internets: 10	no shit.
	We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind, because your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine.

02-22-2005, 10:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Bush smoking pot is the least of our worries. I'm more concerned by the fact that he thinks he talks to God.

02-23-2005, 12:40 AM	#17 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,149 Internets: 284753	I have smoked pot, and I'm still going to Be President. I see nothing wrong with it.