Police State is more real than ever

[f3lix]

I'm not sure if you've heard about this yet, but a student in Florida was arrested and tasered during a John Kerry speech for asking a question during the question and answer segment.

YouTube - Student Tasered At Kerry Speech: Longer Version

YouTube - Student Tasered At Kerry Speech: Longer Version

While I am quite frightened by the resposne of the police, I am more shocked that NOBODY did a damn thing to stop this.

I am personaly sick and tired of watching people in this country sit around and let shit like this happen. It's only going to keep getting worse.

[Ugly Bastard]

You forgot: Vote Ron Paul 2008

[Ugly Bastard]

Btw, what a bunch of fucking pussies cheering when the cops pulled him away from the mike. People love their nanny states and lack of freedom. Makes them feel nice and comfortable.

That video infuriated me to the core.

[Cocktooth]

I haven't seen the full video, but didn't this kid go on and on for awhile about something? He didn't just ask a question. He was using this as a prodeum to speak his own views. I feel that they were more then nice to this kid. Once they tried to remove him after 2 or 3 attempts at getting him to stop, he got on the ground and screamed like a little baby. I personally wish they would have just beat the shit out of him. When you raise a fuss like that, then get tasered, don't start whining and crying. He showed absoulutly no respect towards Kerry or those police officers in his actions. He was resisiting the police. He deserved what he got. There are just some people in this world that need a good tasering!

[f3lix]

Watch the fucking video and then post again Shaw. You spew ignorance without even taking 3 minutes out of your day to watch it before taking 5 minutes to post.

[Ugly Bastard]

Originally Posted by Shaw

He didn't just ask a question. He was using this as a prodeum to speak his own views.

*GASP*

I'm pretty sure that's banned by the Constitution.

[Mr. Blonde]

lol.

yeah i thought it was complete bullshit too. That should have started a fucking riot right there in the auditorium. Even if the kid was being an ass, take the mike away, or tell someone that he's done asking questions, don't just fucking "take him away"...this isn't a goddamn monarchy, especially for a guy who isn't even a president. I'm pretty sure he wasnt' hurling insults anyways, and if you cut him off he might have put up a fuss but the police hauling him away like that was fucking ridiculous.

EDIT: i've only seen the video from when they took him away. i'm watching this one right now. i'll edit after.

EDIT EDIT: Holy fucking shit that's infuriating everytime I watch that. Yeah, so they did cut his mike...like 2 seconds before physically removing him. What a bunch of fucking bullshit. And there were like 8 cops there...all they had to do was put him in cuffs, and drag him out of the place. Tasing him was COMPLETELY fucking unecessary... I had to get tased for my internship and it fucking sucked...but I don't remember being able to talk at all during the 10 seconds or so so that's kinda weird but still...fucking ridiculous...

I'm going to make some calls right now. If i would have been standing right there when they were in the midst of tasing him, I can honestly say I would have lost all control and thought (because obviously it's retarded to attack a "peace" officer), and tackled that whole fucking group to get them to stop. Fucking ridiculous.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

the kid was manic or something

[Mr. Blonde]

I just talked to one of my co-workers, and he gave me a little more perspective. The kid was being a jackass. Granted. If he wouldn't have gotten so heated and animated, and would have structured his questions a little better, he probably could have gotten away with getting them answered. I'm not totally upset about them asking him to leave, but I wasn't there, and I didn't see the entire situation.

Apparently there was another time earlier in the speech when he did something similar as well. And I guess the kid is kind of a jackass in this manner as a person as well.

REGARDLESS, if it had to get to the point of where they had to physically remove him, (which i don't think was necessary, they should have, in these steps, cut his mike, shown a police presence, and ASKED him to leave several times before forcing him to), they should have cuffed him, and drug him out. Did you see the size of that black dude? He was like fucking Shaq. You don't "take him to the back and take care of him", which is exactly what they did and frighteningly reminiscent of the way a crime boss deals with rats.

Tasing him was completely un-fucking necessary, and I think every human being has a STRONG, natural reaction to watching another human, especially a seemingly innocent and harmless one, be ganged up on, and physically harmed while the person is completely helpless.

All other politics of the situation aside, as I don't know the whole story, I do know for a fact that tasering this kid was COMPLETELY unecessary, and I wholeheartedly state that it is police brutality, 100%.

[Mr. Blonde]

http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/09/19/meyer_jerk/

[Cocktooth]

The lady officer asked him at least twice to step away. He refused. Okay okay, so by the rules, they shouldn't have given him the business. He is just one of those kids that just needed to be tased. If they would have quietly excorted him out of the building and said " you just stop ya big meanie head." He wouldn't have learned his lesson. Now that smart ass kid knows what it feels like to mess with rent a cops. Betcha he won't try and pull through a high school basketball game parking lot without following the rent a cops rules now will he!!! Lesson Learned!

[Mr. Blonde]

yeah, just beat everybody into submission until you learn em' good, boy.

Genius.

[Cocktooth]

He just kept running his mouth. He was asked to stop. All he wanted was the spot light. He got it. Nationally. I saw on interview last night were this kid was all quiet and wouldn't say anything. That says it all. He got what he needed coming to him.

[ninjaface]

So if a group of cops thought you were "running your mouth" and tazed you, you'd be fine with it?

[Cocktooth]

Yup. If I was disrespecting a Presidential Canidate, absoulutly.

[Orgazmo]

I'm a little hazy on your feelings, Shaw. Please help me understand with the fun exercise I've included below.

List of people you're not allowed to disrespect...unless you want tazed
1. Presidential Candidates
2.
3.
4.
5.

List of people you ARE allowed to disrespect without the penalty of tazing
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

[Cocktooth]

List of people you're not allowed to disrespect...unless you want tazed
1. Presidential Candidates
2. Peyton Manning
3. Alfonso Soriano
4. Shaw
5. My mom

List of people you ARE allowed to disrespect without the penalty of tazing
1. Anyone from Boston
2. My Girlfriend
3. O.J. Simpson
4. Steve Bartman
5. The Goat

[Ugly Bastard]

Presidential Candidates (and any polititian for that matter) are slaves of the people. We elect them to do the grunt work of carrying out our wishes as a society. Why revere them?

[Ugly Bastard]

BTW Shaw, I love the belief that respect is something which can be forced. My mother always used that bullshit on me when I was a kid.

[Repugnant Abomination]

You're an idiot, Shaw.

I'll give you the kid was causing a scene, and was most likely looking for attention, but that still doesn't justify the use of a taser. It's clear he was no threat - he had no weapon, was alone, and was just talking. There were like half a dozen police officers surrounding him and they had him pinned to the floor. The only reason they tasered him was to keep him from yelling for help.

If you really think that's justified because people aren't allowed to disrespect people of power, then you sir need a good kick in the nuts. Our politicians are so goddamn coddled and protected by the media and their wealth that it was refreshing to see someone cut through the bullshit and ask some straight up questions with passion in his voice. And just as refreshing as it was to see it, it was equally unsettling to see what it was met with.

[Cocktooth]

Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

You're an idiot, Shaw.

I really hope it didn't take you this long to figure that out. Of course my views are that of a lil sarcasim. I know what they did was wrong, but I can't help but enjoy seeing this loud mouth get a couple jolts. He is fine and is not hurt seriously by their actions so I can say that. If Latoya Jackson can make it through a good shock, so can this guy. If he was tough enough to push police away, and turn the other cheek to authority, he is tough enough to get tased.

[f3lix]

Go move to Russia, Commie.

[ninjaface]

Originally Posted by Shaw

Yup. If I was disrespecting a Presidential Canidate, absoulutly.

If things were very simple and black and white.. that would be nice.

What if you thought you weren't being disrespectful, but the cops thought you were and tazed you? Would you still be ok with it? if your answer is

"Well, if they thought I was being disrespectful, then I probably was."

Then you are a fucking retard. If you answer differs from that, by all means, let me know.

[DJ FC]

The police shouldnt have gotten involved so soon and in the way they did, but they kid repeatedly refused to comply with their orders. Being arrested may be wrongful, but the police should have the right to use some reasonable force with people who refuse arrest. And he certainly wasn't being cooperative. He'd probably have a better argument if he had just completely complied with the arrest, but then it wouldn't be as emotional and people wouldn't be watching it on youtube.

[f3lix]

They had no right to arrest him, that was his beef. The evading arrest law in this country is complete bullshit when you are being wrongfully arrested. How many cases do you hear about defendents actually winning after suing police for wrongful arrest?