Who wants to die in Iraq? Anybody else see this coming?

[AcTivE]

I saw it coming

[Ugly Bastard]

Originally posted by AcTivE:
I saw it coming

To be fair, this is all still a rumor. We probably shouldn't go around congratulating each other on correctly predicting the fact that the draft would be reinstated just yet.

-Ugly Bastard

[the Butcher]

Originally posted by Dr. Seuss:
...but I'm not worried at all.

Neither would I if I was a fat teenage bitch. However, being that I'm a male who will legally by able to be drafted, I do worry. I worry that there won't be enough sand niggers to kill.

[Super Nintendo]

I'm sick of people calling our President stupid. Really, really, really sick of it. Where do you guys go? IU? Oh yeah, or maybe Purdue, or Ohio State. Yeah shit-heads, "G-dumb" went to Yale.

Did he smoke weed once or twice? Does that make him "dumb". Hell no...if it did, half the people on this site would be "dumb".

Look around you, we as a country voted him in. 49% of the people in this nation voted for him, knowing that he was a competent Presidential candidate. So, I guess 49% of the country is "dumb". Plus the weed smokers...probably bumping it up to 75% of the nation. Oh right, then only people that went to colleges more prestigious than Yale. So that bumps our "dumb" population up to...hmm...100%.

Suck it.

[Schroeder]

True dat, Super Nintendo.

Remember bitches, you're fighting for a whole country, not one guy. If you don't have any respect for the President you should at least have respect for your country.

Oh, and I think all the Purdue kids on Nubblies support the Commander in Chief.

[fancymeghan]

hmm...well, there was only a 55% voter turn out and 49% of that is about 27%. so, 27% of the population are dumbasses...i can live with that.

not everyone that goes to yale is smart in the ways of running our country...

you're a dumbass. welcome to that 27%.

[BarryJive]

hmm...well doing cocaine will, however, fuck your shit up. Also the man cannot speak proper english, I know kids with downs syndrome that can string words together better than him. Also a "C" average at Yale (which he probably wouldn't even been accepted to had his dad not been who he was) is not all that hard to do. Fuck your "prestigious" college. Anyone and I mean ANYONE can cheat and buy their way through college, it isn't that hard. And while we are on the subject of the draft...what did our current commander in chief do during vietnam while the average guy was dying? He got his dad to get him into the national guard and then what? He couldn't even fulfill that. I guess he is to good to fight for our country. What makes him dumb is his total lack of reguard for the middle class, his bullshit excuses to finish up his dad's unfinished business, and his total lack of knowledge of foriegn policy.

[ April 23, 2004, 12:59 AM: Message edited by: BarryJive ]

[Super Nintendo]

As opposed to your omnicient knowledge on foreign poice? Nevermind the fact that most of the meetings with foreign leaders is done in private... Did you download some of these meetings off Kazaa? Then learn 60 languages so you could comprehend it? ...right.

Ok FancyMeghan...if you don't vote that is your own fault, so you automatically are put in the "dumb" category...or ateast have no room to complain. So let me chance my quote from above...

"49% of the people (THAT GIVE A SHIT) in this nation voted for him, knowing that he was a competent Presidential candidate."

Welcome to the 27% eh? Suck my balls...

[fancymeghan]

hmm...lets see, i do give a shit. i'm not some pain in the ass who knows nothing and sits here at my computer talking shit about politics. i know more about politics than most people my age see, they are the worthless fucks who don't vote.

and i wasn't old enough to vote in the 2000 election, but i'll be damn sure i do this november.

[ April 23, 2004, 01:24 AM: Message edited by: fancymeghan ]

[Super Nintendo]

Yeah, your incredible dividing skills show us all just how knowledgable you are about politics. And I'd have to disagree with you...

YOU DEFINETLY ARE A

Originally posted by fancymeghan:
[QB]some pain in the ass who knows nothing and sits here at my computer talking shit about politics. [QB]

Face it, George Bush is smarter than you, he's smarter than BarryJive, he's smarter than me. By you calling him dumb, you would also be calling yourself LOWER than dumb...what's that anyway? Retarded? Incompetent? An ignoramus? An asshole? All great descriptions if you ask me....
It's not like he makes every decision by HIMSELF anyway.

For one who knows so darn much about politics I'd think you'd have a little more respect for the president of our blessed country, the most powerful man in the world.

[StDx]

Nintendo, there's no reason to stoop to name calling.

I don't give a shit if King George II is the smartest man in the fucking country, I don't agree with what he's done. There is no way I would go to war for him.

If he really was as smart as you seem to think he is, he should've covered his tracks a little better so everyone didn't see how full of shit he was for his reasoning in getting us into this mess. Now he wants to get more innocent americans involved to clean up his mistakes. Fuck that. Georgie needs to learn to wipe his own ass.

originally posted by StDx:
Bush says we go to war, so we go and dare not oppose... lest we be thought of as less patriotic than the neighbors.
Blindly following a leader isn't always the best thing to do... remember the holocaust.

[ April 23, 2004, 02:00 AM: Message edited by: StDx ]

[Tuff Huff]

Accidental post.

[ April 23, 2004, 03:10 AM: Message edited by: Tuff Huff ]

[Super Nintendo]

That is ridiculous...this whole thing STARTED with name calling. Namely, people calling George Bush "dumb".

Thanks for the lecture tho.

I can respect you not agreeing with what's he's done. I don't necessarily agree with everything, nor do I think he is infoulable. I just think its neive to call him "dumb".

[VOL]

This war and President Bush is going too far. Pat Tillman was killed in Afganistan. In case you don't know he gave up his millions of dollars playing for the Arizona Cardinals. Now I know he volunteered, but this has gone too far. People are getting killed for no reason. This is our generation's Vietnam. With all the talk of a possible draft, and the election coming up, we don't need stuff like this. I hate wars and President Bush for not getting us completely out of all this. I just want to state that George needs not to be re-elected if he thinks he's going to keep us in this war for the next 4 years. All of his quotes about "their sacrifices do not go without notice" are absolute bull. He doesn't care. Bush is throwing lives away. I have had enough, and so should you. We need to bring about change in a peaceful way.

[St. Anky]

Have I not been saying this? Our president is a fucking DUMBASS. Sorry Super Nin, but I think he's a horrible president. Diplomacy is an art based on the sole purpose of avoiding war. Gee... I'd say our president is a pro there. Also, seroiusly, look at this mess. We're at the point where shitloads of our soldiers are dying everyday and we don't know what to do. We pull out now, and Bush will never win the election. So, he thinks, lets send in more troops. This thing is just a fucking mess. I was talking with the director of the North Eastern Languages and Cultures (NELC) and he said no one knows what to do. You wanna nkow what that means? Our president placed a bet he didn't have money for.

Fuck Bush. I'm sure there are many men or women out there that could do such a better job.

Originally posted by BarryJive:
hmm...well doing cocaine will, however, fuck your shit up. Also the man cannot speak proper english, I know kids with downs syndrome that can string words together better than him. Also a "C" average at Yale (which he probably wouldn't even been accepted to had his dad not been who he was) is not all that hard to do. Fuck your "prestigious" college. Anyone and I mean ANYONE can cheat and buy their way through college, it isn't that hard. And while we are on the subject of the draft...what did our current commander in chief do during vietnam while the average guy was dying? He got his dad to get him into the national guard and then what? He couldn't even fulfill that. I guess he is to good to fight for our country. What makes him dumb is his total lack of reguard for the middle class, his bullshit excuses to finish up his dad's unfinished business, and his total lack of knowledge of foriegn policy.

The most uninformed post I have ever read. It brings tears to my eyes.

Barry, Did you hear about all this on CNN? I bet you did. Or perhaps it was some political group on campus, or maybe just you and your friends talking. Well you are seriously skewing all the facts.

1)Cocaine fucks your shit up about as much as drinking or smoking weed (unless it becomes a binge thing, then its a different issue alltogether). It is a fact that a surprizingly high number of corperate leaders regularily do cocaine. And we all know that most politicians, especially those who come from political families have a few "skelletons" in their closets, but that's unimportant when it comes to politics.

2)

the man cannot speak proper english

oh, I'm sorry Barry, I didn't know you had long verbal dialogs with the man. Perhaps you learned about his linguistic defects through blooper webpages, television shows, or CNN? All my friends who have talked to him in person (unfortuneately I havn't had the chance) have said he was extremely charismatic. While this may be true or not... I'm going to go out on a limb and assume his speech capabilities are good enough to become the nominee of the Republican party. And these days, the difference between the Republican party and the Democratic party is pretty much just whether you think elephants or donkeys are cooler.

3) A C Average at Yale is hard. While im not sure what his exact score was... I do know for a fact that his SAT was in the 1200's... so he's probobly fairly academically sound.

4) "Total disregard for the middle class" another classic often repeated by college students and/or fans of CNN. To say that I should say that democrats have a "total disregard for all capitalism, and the entire corporate world," it's just not fair. Bush knows he has to appease the middle class, thats where his votes are from.

Basically what I'm saying is I'm sick of punk college kids calling into question the intelligence of an elected President. By all means please question his policies if you wish, but you do not know jack shit about how smart he is, or how well he communicates in person.

[St. Anky]

Originally posted by DJ FC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BarryJive:
hmm...well doing cocaine will, however, fuck your shit up. Also the man cannot speak proper english, I know kids with downs syndrome that can string words together better than him. Also a "C" average at Yale (which he probably wouldn't even been accepted to had his dad not been who he was) is not all that hard to do. Fuck your "prestigious" college. Anyone and I mean ANYONE can cheat and buy their way through college, it isn't that hard. And while we are on the subject of the draft...what did our current commander in chief do during vietnam while the average guy was dying? He got his dad to get him into the national guard and then what? He couldn't even fulfill that. I guess he is to good to fight for our country. What makes him dumb is his total lack of reguard for the middle class, his bullshit excuses to finish up his dad's unfinished business, and his total lack of knowledge of foriegn policy.

The most uninformed post I have ever read. It brings tears to my eyes.

Barry, Did you hear about all this on CNN? I bet you did. Or perhaps it was some political group on campus, or maybe just you and your friends talking. Well you are seriously skewing all the facts.

1)Cocaine fucks your shit up about as much as drinking or smoking weed (unless it becomes a binge thing, then its a different issue alltogether). It is a fact that a surprizingly high number of corperate leaders regularily do cocaine. And we all know that most politicians, especially those who come from political families have a few "skelletons" in their closets, but that's unimportant when it comes to politics.

2)

the man cannot speak proper english

oh, I'm sorry Barry, I didn't know you had long verbal dialogs with the man. Perhaps you learned about his linguistic defects through blooper webpages, television shows, or CNN? All my friends who have talked to him in person (unfortuneately I havn't had the chance) have said he was extremely charismatic. While this may be true or not... I'm going to go out on a limb and assume his speech capabilities are good enough to become the nominee of the Republican party. And these days, the difference between the Republican party and the Democratic party is pretty much just whether you think elephants or donkeys are cooler.

3) A C Average at Yale is hard. While im not sure what his exact score was... I do know for a fact that his SAT was in the 1200's... so he's probobly fairly academically sound.

4) "Total disregard for the middle class" another classic often repeated by college students and/or fans of CNN. To say that I should say that democrats have a "total disregard for all capitalism, and the entire corporate world," it's just not fair. Bush knows he has to appease the middle class, thats where his votes are from.

Basically what I'm saying is I'm sick of punk college kids calling into question the intelligence of an elected President. By all means please question his policies if you wish, but you do not know jack shit about how smart he is, or how well he communicates in person.</font>[/quote]you're a dumbass and so is the president.

[Super Nintendo]

excellent comeback

[fancymeghan]

george bush does not do what is right for the country as a whole, but what is best for republicans...that's only catering to about half of the population...

and that's what makes him a dumbass...

and let's see, you make one comment about a grammatical error in one of my posts, do you realize that our president makes up words and constructs terrible sentences that make anyone with any knowledge of the english language cringe...?

[Super Nintendo]

Come on...like John Kerry won't cater to Democrats and that half of the country? That goes both ways.

Once again though, let me reiterate, I'm not taking sides on either political trench. I just get a little miffed and tired of the whole "George W. is dumb" deal. It's one thing to call a president a dumbass, stupid, an asshole, or even dumb if you dont like it. People do that all the time, whatever. But the whole thing with the media portraying Bush as an actual unintelligent person is just ludicrous.

[Ugly Bastard]

Ummm...amen to a lot of the things you said DJ. I'm not necessarily going down on the guy, 'cause there are quite a few things that he does which I disagree with. But I really do get sick of the closed-minded liberal comments of how he's a "dumbass who can't speak English". It seems like all of these kids who were raised Liberal could get their parents to feed them some better lines about him than that.

-Ugly Bastard

[ April 23, 2004, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: Ugly Bastard ]

[Ugly Bastard]

Originally posted by fancymeghan:
george bush does not do what is right for the country as a whole, but what is best for republicans...that's only catering to about half of the population...

That's called 'politics' cupcake, it goes both ways too...open your eyes.

-Ugly Bastard

[Saint DH]

I really don't want to get started in all of this, b/c nothing I say will ever change anyone's mind, so fuck you all. Most of you are stupid anyways.

DJFC also just got taken off my shit list and put on my pimp mother-fucker list.

[fancymeghan]

Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
Ummm...amen to a lot of the things you said DJ. I'm not necessarily going down on the guy, 'cause there are quite a few things that he does which I disagree with. But I really do get sick of the closed-minded liberal comments of how he's a "dumbass who can't speak English". It seems like all of these kids who were raised Liberal could get their parents to feed them some better lines about him than that.

-Ugly Bastard

my parents are both republican.
i was raised in a very conservative environment.

i'm not a democrat. i think both republicans and democrats are full of shit. i don't take sides. i just stay in the middle because some things from democrats sound appealing and some things from republicans sound appealing.

i just don't like george bush. i just don't think he's fit for the job. doesnt it bother you that a man who is running our country can't even piece together a decent sentence?

[ April 23, 2004, 12:21 PM: Message edited by: fancymeghan ]

[Ugly Bastard]

Originally posted by fancymeghan:
[i think both republicans and democrats are full of shit.

Bingo.

Originally posted by fancymeghan:
i just don't like george bush. i just don't think he's fit for the job. doesnt it bother you that a man who is running our country can't even piece together a decent sentence?

Okay, you lost me there. I really wish you George-bashers could present a real arguement instead of this "he can't talk" bullshit. I mean...the guy fucks up like once every hour of speaking, and everyone jumps on it, 'cause they have nothing else to cling to. I really challenge you to step back, and read the last paragraph of your post meghan, and try to understand how mindless and empty that sounded. If you had said something about he's a bad President because of this needless war, or our shitty economy, then I'd be listening to you....but when the focal point of your arguement is "he can't piece together a decent sentence", I lose interest in what you have to say. I think you people watch too much SNL and Daily Show, and not enough of Bush's actual speeches...'cause if you did, you'd realize there's nothing wrong with the dude's grammar, who wouldn't fuck up on occasion addressing the entire world everyday for an average of 15 minutes or so? People like John Williams who's lives are empty unless they reassure themselves that Bush is a shitty President, do nothing other than take Bush's one blooper of the week and replay it over and over again on their show.

-Ugly Bastard

[ April 23, 2004, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: Ugly Bastard ]