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I never said that we all did not sin... i am just saying that you guys make it sound like that god did not make them the way they are... They are human beings just like me and you... yeah they may not like the opposite sex but they still are humans not the freaks you all make them out to be
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you guys are missing part of my point... yeah you guys may have your view on this but you were not born with that view.... you were brought up with that view... and you have the choice to view the same way as you were brought up... i was brought up to hate black people but do... no i don't it was my choice to view it that way
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buckeye:
Jake now as shallow as i may seem i have reasons behind my dislike of clubs like the gsa. As anky has explained to me gay people are born that way, and its is something they have to live with according to god. Now what pisses me off is not how you guys are gay. If your going to be gay, go ahead whatever just as long ast i dont have to hear about it. What pisses me off though is when groups organizations such as the gsa use the threat of law suits etc. to be used against the fundamental principles that our nation was founded on. Our nation was founded on the belief of a god, however it was not backed up in the constitution, which i think is the biggest mistake in creating it. It provided no means of an ethical code to which people would follow. Our founding fathers believe that ethics would be something that wouldnt change over time however they where wrong. As a result murder rates, swearing, trashy clothing, homosexuality, you name it is more acceptable in our society. If you take switzerland and japan you'll find that their societys have the lowest murder rates, and are ethically are far superior to ours. Hell japanese pornos can only show boobs. Anyways what keeps things in those countries like this is they have a moral/ethical, or reglios code, of positive behaviors. Japan has a "honor system" that is been preached since the middle ages, but now with no backing its following apart much like it has in america. Switzerland on the other hand did not seperate church and state, and as a result postive ethical values are practiced throughout their country and will be followed for years to come. By the gsa threating to sue the school, etc and the allowance of a club at school it only goes to show people that being gay is okay. Think of it as a commercial, a commercial promotes a product. While things like gsa, gay day, parades and what not promote homosexuality. Homosexuality by no means is okay i dont care what you believe. Its not like men where created with both a pussy and a dick. In conclusion if you want to be gay, fine go for it whatever floats your boat. But by no means should you be promoting it. The gsa is a club that should be held outside of school, not in school. -ryan munsch- <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ryan, i am not going to agree or diagree with any of the things you have written but i have one question for you all and i am not trying to be smart about it or anything but what if GIST (the student led bible study) had threatened to sue the school if we could not use gilmers room or anything... would you all be saying about the same things you have all said to gsa? i am just curious... -Cas |
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BrassMonkees:
did any of you even bother reading my lengthly post? and no God did not make them out to be gay nutcracker. He did make them humans, not homosexuals. i thought that was understood<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Then why does everyone going around saying that there is a reason why things are the way they are and that god is the reason behind them? |
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are you saying you feel bad for my gf or someone else's cuz if you are refering to me, then you really are what these other people are calling you. you would be making no sense at all if you were saying that about me
and i do believe that there is a reason for the way things are and i do believe that God is in control of them, not causing them all to be. I believe that their is a reason for the way things are, although they might not be very obvious as to why they are happening, in the end people either choose to grow from it, or choose to be destroyed from it. if i knew the reason to everything, then go ahead and call me God. fortunately, however, i know very little as to how and why things happen |
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Brass monkey i did like your reply. I am gay and dont even understand the causes of homosexuality. All i know is that i happen to be one. just as you knew since early childhood that you were hetro. I was never abused or mistreated though. But i do believe it is possible that homosexuality is psychological. Actually i bet its probably a mixture of gentics/physcological effects. But im pretty sure that no one would ever choose to be one. I sure didnt! I spent all of middle school, and most of high school tryin not to be one. Why would anyone ever CHOOSE to be made fun of and pushed around. Anyways these are just my thoughts. and i did like your post. Nice use of facts. Good job
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the answer would be no, to cure your curosity. reglion teaches positive values, i believe i stressed throughout my post if you read it at all. I don't feel that homosexuality teaches positive values thats my opinion and not the laws. |
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i am sorry if i pissed any of you i did not aim to do that... just a lot of things that are said here about this topic is often cruel... and seems like you guys are not even willing to look at from the view of the gsa
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alright good, im glad you weren't refering to me. although i was upset on a few of my earlier posts, i never outrighted insulted homosexuals. i do however have a strong distaste for it.
jake-thank you for taking the time to read my post. i can't grasp entirely where you are coming from. i know it must be quite difficult to have those thoughts in your head. but, whether you believe it or not, acting on it is an outright sin. i don't know what your religious beliefs are, or if you even have any, but from but i know to be true, homosexuality is wrong. there is however a difference between thinking about it and doing it. |
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