RIP: 2000 Mustang

[Niger Angelus]

LT1

[ProfessorNumber]

An LT1?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those engines pigs? I know they came in the C4 corvettes, SS Impalas, and early 90's F-body cars. I remember hearing that they came with as low as 190hp.

*Correction* It turns out you can find LT1s with around 285 hp and 325 ftlbs torque. Not bad but not great.

Just a suggestion: make the last upgrade you buy an exhaust system. They are quite possibly the biggest waste of money you can buy for a performance car. Rather than spendin 150-600 on an aftermarket exhaust, just gut the cat or run a straight pipe.

If you want power, I would consider installing a supercharger/blower, and then put some 295 tires in the rear.

[ July 15, 2004, 02:07 PM: Message edited by: ProfessorNumber ]

[Niger Angelus]

I have connections on how to get straight Flows for cheap. I am looking into the supercharger, it will work better with the cold air intake.
First and foremost I have to get all the limiters taken off the computer. It also has PermaTrak on it. The same thing as the newer Vettes, which cause it to not burn out as well. . I am putting 18" wheels with Nitto Z-rated tires on it for summer driving.

[ProfessorNumber]

Everyone loves big wheels these days. Personally I'd never put anything bigger than 17" wheels on a muscular car. But hey, everyone's different, and at least you have a pimp ride now.

You should consider picking up a set of Z06 wheels, or a knockoff of them (if they don't share the same lug pattern as your car). They can be had relatively cheap, and they are pretty wide(18x9.5 front & 18x10.5 rear).

personally id never put anything bigger than 17" wheels on a muscular car

I couldnt agree with you more, it's retarded as hell to put big heavy clunky wheels if speed is of any issue. Wheels slow you down more than most people realize. Of course it's always been the American way to ignore power/weight ratio.

[Niger Angelus]

Lighter wheels = faster acceleration
Bigger wheels = higher top-speed

These 18" are also lighter than the stock 16".
Wheels

[ July 15, 2004, 11:14 PM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]

[ProfessorNumber]

Niger, what the fuck are you thinking??

By: the Gayass site that Niger linked to.

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First of all, please recognize the bold lettered word. FWD!! These wheels are made for bitch cars that are owned by pre-pubescent 16 year olds who want to be blinging. But let's be honest here; you're hopefully not trying to bling, and your hopefully not driving a FWD firebird (since that is obviously impossible).

Second, those tires are only 7.5" across. If your car makes any power, it will spin those puny pieces of shit through most of the gears. You will have a hard time getting traction, and your handling will be poorer. What the fuck man?

[Niger Angelus]

The FWD on wheels means basically nothing. It is just a weight matter. Those wheels are also just going to be meant for summer driving. I will have another set that I am looking at for racing. Those are the ones that would carry the Nitto's.
Racing Wheels

[ July 16, 2004, 02:32 AM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]

[ProfessorNumber]

Well, the second wheels that you linked to look a little bit better, although they are still only 8.5" wide. You should consider getting some beefier rear wheels if you want to street race.

[Niger Angelus]

I know, it is that those are either: A. $500 a piece
B. Ugly as hell

[ProfessorNumber]

Originally posted by Niger Angelus:
I know, it is that those are either: A. $500 a piece
B. Ugly as hell

Hahaha.

Lets be real here; you're never going to add a blower or supercharger. And, even if you did, your wheels wouldn't find sufficient traction, thereby reducing your drag times.

SO!

I decided to take the liberty of creating a list of [cheaper] upgrades you might want to consider.

1. A giant rear wing. Sure, your car comes with one, but is it really big enough? Are you getting optimal downforce with your stock one? Of course not. Therefore you should buy a 2 ft tall one, which will certainly reduce your drag coefficient. (cost: 200)

2. Stickers. Ask and racer, any real racer, and they'll tell you that putting stickers on your car DOES in fact make it faster. Plus, they are pretty cheap. The NOS stickers with the little lightning bolt underneath them are probably the best. (cost: 15)

3. A bodykit: Sure, it might add useless weight, but it certainly makes your car look bitchin! Plus, it will give you more streed cred' (cost: 500)

4. A cold air intake: These cost about $125, but they make your engine bay look awesome! Who the hell wants a stupid black boxy air intake when they could have a sweet conical one that comes in bright colors!!! That way, if anyone asks you to pop your hood they will be impressed with your colorful and stylish air intake -- yay!! (cost: 125)

5. A new valve cover: These days it's all the rage to put a corvette valve/engine cover on a run of the mill Camaro/Firebird. Plus, if you put a corvette engine cover on your Firebird, it will actually give you all the perfomance of a Corvette, for 1/1000 of the price! What a deal!
(cost: 75)

6. Cut springs: Obviously all cars are too high from the ground stock. Therefore you should take off your stock suspension coils and cut them!! This will lower your car, and give it that mean look that will make everyone know your car is bitchin. (cost: Free!)

7. Wheels: But not just any; $200 wheels. Why pay 3500 for a REAL set of wheels when you could just pay 800 for a few round pieces of shit. (cost: 800)

8. Chrome accesories: Everyone loves chrome because it makes people think your car is classy and that you have style. People will respect your car more and then wish they had as much chrome as you do. Aren't you the hero.
(cost: 200)

9. Big Ass Subs: Why? Because listening to rap at a reasonably loud level is just no longer acceptable. In fact, if you don't have two 12" subs in your car, then you're a fucking idiot!! Big subs will impress all the trailor trash whores, as well as allow you to damage your hearing and pretend that your ghetto. Afterall, having big subs does give you the right to blast obnoxious homosexual rap wherever you go! (even if your as white as they come).
(cost: 300)

10. A new shifter knob: This will make the inside of your car look pimp. Not only that, but it will also allow you to shift tons faster! Now that I think about it, a shifter knob alone could cut down your quarter mile time by as much as 5 seconds!!!! Thats fucking insane!!
(cost: 20)

In total those upgrades should run you about $2235. Not bad if you ask me, considering they all together they cost less than the absolute cheapest piece of shit supercharger you could buy.

Well, I hope I could be of assistance Niger.

[ July 16, 2004, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: ProfessorNumber ]

[Niger Angelus]

You just made a real ass of yourself. Anyone that knows me, and knows me with cars; knows you just made yourself look like a fool.

[ July 17, 2004, 01:39 AM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]

[farawayfromhere]

Originally posted by Niger Angelus:
You just made a real ass of yourself. Anyone that knows me, and knows me with cars; knows you just made yourself look like a fool.

I know Niger, and I know Niger with cars. I agree with Niger.

I am now also adding (in a sing-song sort of voice):

I got to dirve the Firebird! I got to drive the Firebird!

[Saint DH]

I'm pretty sure that was a joke Niger. It kinda reminded me of a article on Maddox's page.

[ProfessorNumber]

Originally posted by Dirty Harry:
I'm pretty sure that was a joke Niger. It kinda reminded me of a article on Maddox's page.

Thank god captain obvious arrived just in time. No, but seriously, Harry is correct in that I was joking... To me it sounded as if you were the kind of person who would buy a Firebird, put some skinny but blinging rims on, put on a loud exhaust and air intake and then think that their car is unbeatable. Therefore I wrote the above post to be facetious and to provoke a reaction out of Niger.

And as far as you knowing a lot about cars... Well, I have my doubts.

[ July 17, 2004, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: ProfessorNumber ]

ProfessorNumber...

That was one of the best posts I've read in a long while! Hahahahaha truth hurts sometimes.

[Niger Angelus]

Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
And as far as you knowing a lot about cars... Well, I have my doubts.

Good for you.

And DJ, you're just a queer.

[ProfessorNumber]

Originally posted by Niger Angelus:
You just made a real ass of yourself. Anyone that knows me, and knows me with cars; knows you just made yourself look like a fool.

Bullshit.



To further elaborate upon the message in the picture, I can think of at least 5 other cars that cost less than a V6 Mustang that would absolutely smoke it. Not only that, but Mustangs handle like a whale compared to an FD or FC RX7, which happens to be cheaper. Hell, my families 1992 Nissan Sentra probably handles better.

My point is, Niger, if you truly know alot about cars, then why did you have a V6 bitchstang, and why are you talking about upgrading your Firebird with shit accessories like those queer ass wheels? Your not fooling anyone.

[Niger Angelus]

I am not even going to bother with this one. But until you own something that can beat my car, fuck off.
As for the Mustang, that is what I wanted for the money I had at the time. There is also a factor of insurance, it costs more for a v-8. And, I am not buying a riceburner. Then I will have to cover it in stickers and chrome rims.
Subs, maybe the way my music sounds matters dumbshit.
As for v6 mustangs, and car GUYS buying them, www.v6stang.com. Test your prowess with some of them.
And in conclusion, you drive, a what?

[ July 18, 2004, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]

[StabMaster Arson]

Here is where all the real car guys hang out.

[ July 18, 2004, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]

[StabMaster Arson]

This is the car you all wish you drove.

[ July 18, 2004, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]

[Niger Angelus]

Haha, yeah man; that is pimp.

[ProfessorNumber]

Originally posted by Niger Angelus:
I am not even going to bother with this one. But until you own something that can beat my car, fuck off.
As for the Mustang, that is what I wanted for the money I had at the time. There is also a factor of insurance, it costs more for a v-8. And, I am not buying a riceburner. Then I will have to cover it in stickers and chrome rims.
Subs, maybe the way my music sounds matters dumbshit.
As for v6 mustangs, and car GUYS buying them, www.v6stang.com. Test your prowess with some of them.
And in conclusion, you drive, a what?

That is reasonable. I drive a 1999 Grand Am. It is not a race car, and I don't pretend that it is. It gets me where I need to go, and that is all it's good for.

Anyway, if I've really offended you Niger, then chill out. I just like arguing, and I love talking about cars. I don't actually hate you, and your car is definitely better than mine, even if it does have pussy rims.

[ProfessorNumber]

Well, since I'm bored now, I suppose I'll share some of my car porn with you folks.


Now that's a Cobra!


Nothin compares to the roar of a blown 426 Hemi


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Turbo Mustang anyone?


I think the mail goes in here.


Anyone wanna race this Jeep?


I love powerful Nissans.

Niger, not sure where that came from.
Professor's post was hilarious.