Ron Paul 2008

[Beebs]

Pauls doing exactly what he and his supporters want to do, he isn't being dishonest or stealing their money, their point is to make his beliefs more well known and talked about.

I know I don't sound like I support the guy, but hes doing a good thing, just has a few wrong ideas with his good ones.

[DJ FC]

Yeah the gold standard bit really bothered me too... But I still donated to Ron Paul and I'd still vote for him because we need more libertarianism in Washington.

[Cocktooth]

14 Delegates? Is that what all those millions gets you?? Impressive.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

[Heaven Can Wait]

When i was in cuba i pretty much spent all day watching CNN.
looks like obama has a decent chance, even after yesterday?

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

hes still the front runner w/ the most delegates. its still a toss-up but the last big state is Pennsylvania I think and they favor clinton.

[Heaven Can Wait]

was reading up on super delegates.. they seem like a pile of shit to me.
'oh im important i get the vote of 200k normal people'
go obama.. south park put me off hilldog

[Cocktooth]

Originally Posted by Heaven Can Wait

was reading up on super delegates.. they seem like a pile of shit to me.
'oh im important i get the vote of 200k normal people'
go obama.. south park put me off hilldog

Democracy at it's best!

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

413 - Ron Paul

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...ics/index.html

[Mr. Blonde]

why were you in cuba, heaven

[f3lix]

Dr. No at it again!

[ninjaface]

[f3lix]

Just to flirt with the idea of Ron Paul still winning, I share with you the happenings at the Nevada State GOP convention, where the national delegates were to be voted...

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/47160

In short summary, the Paul supporters outnumbered everybody and used this to vote a change in the delegate nomination process which set them up to win nearly ALL of the states 31 delegates for the national convention. Of course this confused the mainstream media who already claimed McCain had won the majority of Nevada's delegates (which Romney suppossedly had but in reality didn't own either.)

Many states use the state delegate process and McCain hasn't won the nomination yet. I'm not saying Paul will win, but I will say his supporters will continue to fight since they know the actual rules and how to get their guys support.

[Cocktooth]

There are no rules in poltics. The republican party would never let that happen.

[f3lix]

Already set in stone are 9 of the 31 delegates. Those are owned by Ron Paul (7), John McCain (1), and the 9th goes to the majority winner, which appears to be headed in Paul's direction. I fuckin love this state.

[Beebs]

And what would your feelings be if it was Paul's opponents doing this?

[f3lix]

This is the actual process to elect a candidate for the GOP. I can't even count the number of times I have posted that the media has completed distorted how delegates are actually awarded. They frankly don't have a damned clue and are just now figuring out that they are completely ignorant about the process. I'm thrilled this is happening, because it proves that people should do their own research and not just blindly listen to the crap that comes over the wire.

[Cocktooth]

Damnit, they won't talk about Ron Paul. What a travesty. He will win this election cause of his UFO believing supporters!

[f3lix]

While I think this article should get a thread of its own for including some great analogies and accurate journalism, I wouldn't want to be ostricized for filling up the boards with a new threading with the name Ron Paul in it...

May. 11, 2008
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

VIN SUPRYNOWICZ: Who's crashing our tea party?

Last fall, officials for both "major" Nevada parties were loudly celebrating "all the new people this will bring into the process."

Then, when those people actually showed up at their state conventions this spring, chaos ensued.

The Democrats hadn't rented a big enough room for enough time to even sort out who was a credentialed delegate and should be allowed to vote. They had to close down and do it all again, a few weeks later.

And what happened as the GOP carnival in Carson City two weekends ago was even harder to sort out, at first. Reports from party regulars were that the Ron Paul minority (the Texas congressman came in second to Mitt Romney in the party's Nevada caucuses this winter) had shown up and tried to "take over" the convention, or else "wreck it." Though no one could explain precisely why they'd want to do that.

After talking to a number of participants, both those who were on the stage and those out in the cheap seats, I must conclude the clash of expectations on view at the Peppermill in Reno April 26 was actually more interesting and important that the rumored attempt at a "minority takeover," which is not what actually happened.

First, America does not have two major parties. It has one major party -- the Incumbent Party -- which is divided into two social clubs, the Republicrats and the Demopublicans.

This single party has a single agenda: Tell the voters you stand for "change," and then deliver them no change at all, except incremental further steps toward the brand of state socialism popularized by Bismarck, Mussolini, Hitler and Roosevelt the Second.

If we have two different major parties, tell me which one, placed in power, would quickly end the War on Drugs; pull our troops out of 103 nations overseas; restore the Second Amendment right to own a machine gun without having to sign your name or show a photo ID; end the actuarially bankrupt and constitutionally unauthorized Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security Ponzi schemes; shut down the Federal Reserve Board and put us back on a sound, non-inflating dollar made of gold and/or silver. Tell me which one would declare that children belong to their parents, shutting down the state "Child Protection" kidnapping racket (kids have been kidnapped and killed for an offense as minor as mom not "getting them their shots" -- see Cameron Justin Demery, Oct. 14, 1996) and the vastly expensive Government Youth Propaganda Camps which are dumbing down our children into quasi-literate sociopaths.

That would be "change." And the One Party has none to offer.

I come from New England. Many fine New Englanders are the Catholic descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants. They're against abortion, suspicious of much current "Politically Correct" chicanery, and -- having had three generations to start a business and accrue some wealth -- balk at higher taxes. Looking at the platforms of the "two parties," they should be Republicans. But they'd be ostracized by their friends and families if they registered as anything but Democrats. The Republicans are the fat cats with the Mayflower names who live up on the hill and won't let the darned Swamp Yankee (insert colorful racial epithet of your choice) into the country club.

It's a social thing.

Over the decades, the agenda for a Nevada Republicrat state convention -- especially in a year when the presidential nominee already stands anointed -- has become ritualized. Sign in a few hundred delegates, most of whom know each other and -- for that matter -- knew each other's parents. Show some "pep rally" videos designed to stir up the crowd and ridicule the Demopublicans. Troop out the party's old war horses and celebrity guests to take a bow and -- in at least one case -- actually sing a song.

Now, with lunchtime approaching, seek a voice vote OK of the credential committee's delegate slate for the national convention Sept. 1.

In Reno April 26, convention chairman Bob Beers said the "ayes" had accepted the party delegate slate. But a count of hands was called for. Turns out the "ayes" didn't have it -- by a margin of about 670 to 430.

The eager Ron Paulista delegates -- accompanied by a fair number of newcomers who signed on as Mitt Romney delegates, without whom the Paulistas could not have raised the majority that voted down the "company delegate slate" -- didn't realize they'd been invited to attend a formal social gathering with rituals as time-honored as the garter toss and the father dancing with the bride. They thought they were there to participate in "live" politics -- to elect a slate of delegates to the national convention, and instruct those delegates through the mechanism of a state party platform as to which issues they wish the national party to bring before the electorate next fall.

One group was there for a social event. The other still believed that political change can be effected in America through political activism.

The faith of the Paul and Romney delegates -- their hope that the campaign could be made to address real issues, like our eroding standard of living caused by the purposeful inflation of the Federal Reserve -- is naive, but a precious thing. That this faith will be crushed by a system that values nothing other than "triangulating" to 51 percent -- and it has to be this year -- is very sad.

But the folks who started out "in charge" at the Peppermill April 26, assuming all the ritualized business could be handled with some quick voice votes, are not evil people.

Republican Chairwoman Sue Lowden showed great political courage in standing up against mandatory vaccinations in the state Senate a few years back.

That brave stand gave the Culinary union all the ammo they needed to bring her down, absurdly claiming the young mother was "in favor of childhood disease."

And convention chairman Bob Beers is as close to a lower-tax, smaller government Republican as this state party has produced in a long while.

But one team showed up ready to reminisce about old times and play a little lawn croquet on April 26, only to find themselves in a hall with 900 strangers suited up for lacrosse.

You see, when leaders of both parties crowed last fall about how happy they were to see so many new people being "brought into the process" by the new Nevada caucuses, they meant "registering to vote for our guys." They never imagined these characters would actually crash their annual tea party.

[ninjaface]

Summary?

[Orgazmo]

Just read the bold.

[Mr. Blonde]

decent ron paul commentary on the bailout

[f3lix]

Ron Paul never stops. He keeps delivering the same duh-arguments that are consistantly ignored by Washington. This country REALLY needed him to make a big enough impact to get a similarly minded candidate elected to the Presidency. Maybe 2012 will be the year. Until then, I happily purchased a couple hundred shares of AIG at the bargain swap meet today since I'm 95% sure the gov't will save their ass and make them a normal company again (jackpot for me.)

[Ugly Bastard]

Paul's idealogical stance sounds great on paper, but in practice, it would be disasterous if the government didn't intervene here. Paul basically thinks that the government should never intervene in issues relating to the free market. While he's right in suggesting that the government is involved too much, he takes it too far. In this case, two wrongs will make a right; the government will make money by purchasing these undervalued mortgages. Paul is right, government needs to control spending and reduce taxes to keep capital in the open market, but there is something to be said for having them regulate trade (ie: the uptick rule needs to be brought back... it would have limited much of this mess in the first place by not giving hedge funds a green light to crash a sector by shorting it to death).

[Repugnant Abomination]

The thing about Paul is, if he'd had been in charge we never would have gotten into this mess in the first place.