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Repugnant Abomination · 10-20-2011, 01:46 AM

I just finished watching the third debate between Bush and Gore during the 2000 general elections. It's amazing how much more eloquent and articulate Gore was. I'd go as far as to say he's an even better communicator than Obama (though not as "inspirational"). Regardless of which candidate you supported, it's astounding how outclassed Bush was in those debates. He makes Rick Perry look like the Newt Gingrich of the current field.

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Originally Posted by f3lix

And how do you suggest we protect our borders, Repug?

Clearly these Republicans are too soft on securing the border. If I was president I wouldn't stop at putting an electric fence along our 2,000 mile border. I'd also deploy the army, aerial drones, and samurai sharks armed with ninja stars.

SittinOnDubsWGW · 10-20-2011, 02:32 AM

electric fences wouldn't stop the problem... the dream is strong and illegal aliens are crafty bastards.

Ugly Bastard · 10-20-2011, 01:57 PM

I just don't get all of the anti-Mexican sentiment in the U.S. It's not like white people want to clean their own homes or flip their own burgers. What are they so worried about?

Mr. Blonde · 10-20-2011, 02:32 PM

Jerbs are Jerbs.

f3lix · 10-20-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

Clearly these Republicans are too soft on securing the border. If I was president I wouldn't stop at putting an electric fence along our 2,000 mile border. I'd also deploy the army, aerial drones, and samurai sharks armed with ninja stars.

So instead of dodging the question with a snarly response, I'll let you try again.

Mr. Blonde · 10-20-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

I think you need to watch Jurassic Park again, F3lix.

F3lix did you watch Jurassic Park again yet?

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 10-20-2011, 09:16 PM

"life finds away" - Jurassic Park

Saint DH · 10-20-2011, 09:16 PM

Are you comparing Mexicans to dinosaurs?

It was actually Dr. Ian Malcolm who said that.

Repugnant Abomination · 10-21-2011, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

So instead of dodging the question with a snarly response, I'll let you try again.

I don't have all the answers, but I can sure as hell point out a stupid idea when I hear one, and a 2,000 mile long electric fence is stupid.

I'd start with going after businesses that knowingly hire illegals because they know they can pay them peanuts. I'd encourage current law abiding illegals to come out so we could legalize them and get them paying taxes. I'd legalize pot and end the war on drugs to discourage trafficking. I'd beef up local law enforcement in areas with high concentrations of Mexican gangs. I'd tell stupid white Americans to quit bitching about them taking our jobs, because most of the jobs they take are ones white people won't do anyway. I'd work to enhance NAFTA to make it easier for citizens from Mexico and Canada to come in and out of the country. I'd try (somehow) to increase understanding and empathy, particularly in secondary school students, as to why so many Mexicans are so desperate to immigrate here in the first place. And I'd point out that the US deported 400,000 illegals in 2011 already, a record. http://www.npr.org/2011/10/18/141485...grants-in-year

I'd also like to make a more generalized point. People in this country want to have their cake and eat it too. One of the main effects of globalization is that yes, we get goods at much cheaper rates, but that means some jobs go away overseas. If you don't want jobs to go away then adopt protectionism, but then don't bitch that things are too expensive. Similarly, a lot of places hire illegals so they can don't have to pay them as much. Sometimes the those savings are transferred to the customer, which customers like, and thus buy more things. If a business has to hire a white person to do the same job but pay them three times as much then that cost will be transferred to the customer.

But nobody wants to hear that.

SittinOnDubsWGW · 10-21-2011, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

And I'd point out that the US deported 400,000 illegals in 2011 already, a record. U.S. Deports Record Number Of Immigrants In Year : NPR

surprised to see that it was a record year, as it's been considerably slower for my area this year. (I'll take a closer look at the report in a moment)

Your whole post had solid points.

DJ FC · 10-21-2011, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mistoffelees

"life finds away" - Jurassic Park

Good God I love that movie. I think Jurassic Park quotes could have their own thread.

SittinOnDubsWGW · 10-21-2011, 12:47 PM

Obama announces end of Iraq war, troops to return home by year end - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Brothas gettin' reelected.

Mr. Blonde · 10-21-2011, 12:56 PM

I'm going to watch the full presidential debate now, haven't had time in the past couple of days.

Ugly Bastard · 10-21-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SittinOnDubsWGW

Obama announces end of Iraq war, troops to return home by year end - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Brothas gettin' reelected.

Oh snap Obama done gone and ended da wa'!

Repugnant Abomination · 10-21-2011, 02:50 PM

I think it's fair to say Obama has an absolutely stellar record on security. He resided over the killing of Bin Laden, then took out Anwar al-Awlaki a few months later. His handling of the Libyan war has been masterful, as he managed to revitalize NATO by encouraging our allies to "take the lead" while we offered support and know-how. Just compare the Libyan war to the Iraq war. One has cost hundreds of billions of dollars and thousand American lives. The other cost 2 billion with ZERO US causalities. Counter terrorism is the answer, not nation building. The Obama doctrine > the Bush doctrine. Oh, and there hasn't be a single act of terror committed successfully on US soil since he's been in office. Then, finally, and sanely, he's getting us the fuck out of Iraq.

I point all of this out because historically Republicans have managed to label Democrats as soft and incompetent on national security. Clinton once lamented it as the perceived Mommy (Dems) and Daddy (Repubs) party - one takes care of you, the other protects you. That seems to be going out the window.

If not for the economy Obama would probably win the election in a landslide. As it is right now he'll probably win another tight one.

Ugly Bastard · 10-21-2011, 03:17 PM

It's worth keeping in mind that this country has an incredibly short term memory. The election will be decided primarily by what happens in the 4 weeks before people go to the polls. It's close to impossible to say what that might be.

f3lix · 10-22-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

law abiding illegals

This is funny.

f3lix · 10-22-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SittinOnDubsWGW

Obama announces end of Iraq war, troops to return home by year end - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Brothas gettin' reelected.

I'm thrilled about the claim, now we'll see about the execution. We all know Bambi is good at talking but not so much walking.

Anybody find it odd to see him referred to as "Mr. Obama?"

Anybody else see the Shaw-like grammatical error in the poll?

Repugnant Abomination · 10-22-2011, 07:12 PM

You suck Felix.

I just thought you should know.

ninjaface · 10-23-2011, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

You suck Felix.

I just thought you should know.

Repug, that isn't very constructive.

I feel it would be better to tell f3lix that he sucks shit.

Hank Ernst · 10-26-2011, 03:25 PM

I think religion and politics really bring American people together. Also, I have a flying unicorn that I ride to Magic Town.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 10-26-2011, 09:16 PM

Hank, I liked it better when you were an honest, no nonsense kind of guy. Your snarkiness is a real turn off.

Mr. Blonde · 10-27-2011, 12:36 AM

Shit Herman Cain Says

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 10-27-2011, 07:29 AM

this is like a tim and eric skit for christs sakes

Herman Cain Thank You For Smoking Campaign Ad. (Hilarious) - YouTube

Orgazmo · 10-27-2011, 09:08 AM

Is that ad serious?

10-20-2011, 02:32 PM	#454 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Jerbs are Jerbs.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

10-20-2011, 09:16 PM	#457 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	"life finds away" - Jurassic Park
	#YOLO

10-21-2011, 12:56 PM	#463 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	I'm going to watch the full presidential debate now, haven't had time in the past couple of days.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

10-21-2011, 02:50 PM	#465 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	I think it's fair to say Obama has an absolutely stellar record on security. He resided over the killing of Bin Laden, then took out Anwar al-Awlaki a few months later. His handling of the Libyan war has been masterful, as he managed to revitalize NATO by encouraging our allies to "take the lead" while we offered support and know-how. Just compare the Libyan war to the Iraq war. One has cost hundreds of billions of dollars and thousand American lives. The other cost 2 billion with ZERO US causalities. Counter terrorism is the answer, not nation building. The Obama doctrine > the Bush doctrine. Oh, and there hasn't be a single act of terror committed successfully on US soil since he's been in office. Then, finally, and sanely, he's getting us the fuck out of Iraq. I point all of this out because historically Republicans have managed to label Democrats as soft and incompetent on national security. Clinton once lamented it as the perceived Mommy (Dems) and Daddy (Repubs) party - one takes care of you, the other protects you. That seems to be going out the window. If not for the economy Obama would probably win the election in a landslide. As it is right now he'll probably win another tight one.
	Last edited by Repugnant Abomination; 10-21-2011 at 03:02 PM.

10-26-2011, 09:16 PM	#472 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	Hank, I liked it better when you were an honest, no nonsense kind of guy. Your snarkiness is a real turn off.
	#YOLO

10-20-2011, 02:32 AM	#452 (permalink)
SittinOnDubsWGW I make bad decisions. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Desert Posts: 3,018 Internets: 108015	electric fences wouldn't stop the problem... the dream is strong and illegal aliens are crafty bastards.

10-20-2011, 01:57 PM	#453 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I just don't get all of the anti-Mexican sentiment in the U.S. It's not like white people want to clean their own homes or flip their own burgers. What are they so worried about?

10-20-2011, 09:16 PM	#458 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,149 Internets: 284753	Are you comparing Mexicans to dinosaurs? It was actually Dr. Ian Malcolm who said that.

10-21-2011, 12:47 PM	#462 (permalink)
SittinOnDubsWGW I make bad decisions. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Desert Posts: 3,018 Internets: 108015	Obama announces end of Iraq war, troops to return home by year end - Political Hotsheet - CBS News Brothas gettin' reelected.

10-21-2011, 03:17 PM	#466 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	It's worth keeping in mind that this country has an incredibly short term memory. The election will be decided primarily by what happens in the 4 weeks before people go to the polls. It's close to impossible to say what that might be.

10-22-2011, 07:12 PM	#469 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	You suck Felix. I just thought you should know.

10-26-2011, 03:25 PM	#471 (permalink)
Hank Ernst Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 11 Internets: 1563	I think religion and politics really bring American people together. Also, I have a flying unicorn that I ride to Magic Town.

10-27-2011, 12:36 AM	#473 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Shit Herman Cain Says
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

10-27-2011, 09:08 AM	#475 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,732 Internets: 311447	Is that ad serious?

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