Why I hate "marketing." - Nubblies.net Forums

Mr. Blonde · 10-16-2011, 11:12 AM

When living in a foreign country (and not caring very much about learning the language, as learning Korean long term is pretty much worthless), you become accustomed to tuning that language out in your every day life. I didn't watch broadcast/cable TV in Korea for almost 2 and a half years, and couldn't read most advertising in public. Also didn't listen to radio. So the minute amount of advertising I had came to me through watching TV online (minimal as I often torrented) or what I could understand while out and about.

I didn't actually notice this fact until I came home and was/am barraged by ridiculous, annoying-as-fuck advertisements almost CONSTANTLY when watching TV or radio. It's crazy how accustomed people (myself before Korea, many people now) get accustomed to hearing this, or perhaps tuning it out (something I'm trying to do). Advertisments almost make me angry when I hear them now because of their relentless, pseudo-brainwashing effects they have whenever I'm trying to enjoy some media; I usually end up just turning the radio/TV off, preferring silence over my brain being told what "is" by ads.

So I guess this thread is to post advertising you think is ANNOYING AS FUCK or show ways that marketing will screw with people's heads. I really think advertising dulls a lot of people's critical thinking skills, because the perceived "authority" that being on TV/radio gives.

For example, a craze that is important to note is the whole "organic" and "healthy" food craze that's been going on the past 5-10 years. "Organic" is a very flexible term; I mean hell, technically EVERYTHING that grows in the wild can be labeled organic. The push for anti-oxidants being some kind of super molecule that will make you live forever is what made me think of this thread:

Why doctors don't like to talk about antioxidants. - Slate Magazine

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 10-16-2011, 11:28 AM

yea commercials and advertising blow, but w/o them no one could afford to produce content.

why did you put quotation marks around "marketing?"

f3lix · 10-16-2011, 11:47 AM

I'm with you on this. My mother falls for anything on a label. If a donut box said it could lead to less chance of getting cancer, she'd buy it. It blows my mind watching her shop.

Mr. Blonde · 10-16-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mistoffelees

yea commercials and advertising blow, but w/o them no one could afford to produce content.

I was just trying to take a nap and was thinking one of you would bring this up. And my response is yes, obviously, but it doesn't mean I have to like it and it annoys me consumers don't make it more clear to advertisers how much they dislike most kinds of advertising. Maybe I wish there was more of an opportunity for feedback? I suppose there is market research beforehand, focus groups and whatnot, but it doesn't seem to give the majority of consumers a feedback option. Example: I'm much more likely to be interested in a product or service if their advertisements entertained me in some way (funny commercial etc. instead of just "HEY LOOK AT THIS IT WORKS BUY IT").

Quote:

why did you put quotation marks around "marketing?"

Eh I thought using quotes would help to use "marketing" as not just the concept of coming up with the ideas, but a blanket term for all forms of advertising, commercials, billboards, and the like. Didn't mean to insinuate it was something other than marketing.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 10-16-2011, 01:02 PM

I'm sorry I jolted you from your nap.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

if their advertisements entertained me in some way (funny commercial etc. instead of just "HEY LOOK AT THIS IT WORKS BUY IT").

There are a lot of circumstances I wish it was just the latter with more strict regulations on what I will call "factitious claims."

Nothing is more annoying when an advertisement attempts to entertain you and fails. I'm sitting through your bullshit advertisement to be entertained by something I have chosen to be entertained by, I don't need you pooping on my parade.

See:

Geico fish commercial very funny - YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 10-16-2011, 01:16 PM

Forgiven, it wasn't you, it was that coffee I sprung for. $1.26 out of the bank account!! Jeez Louise!

^^^ Thought of above situation too when I was writing before; the truth that what is funny to me, may not be funny to others, and that what is funny to others, may not be funny to me. Obviously that Geico commerical isn't targeted to our audience, rather our parent's age.

That being said, Geico is one of the few companies that at least tries to make it's commercials funny to some demographic. Even if it's not funny to me personally, I can still appreciate the marketing value behind it. This one is one that I am personally a fan of, even though it hits a little close to home:

2011 Toyota Venza Commercial - Social Network - YouTube

Amusing to me, in a wry way, at best, but it's entertaining and relevant. The only real part that "assaulted" me was the namedrop of the car at the end; the rest of the commercial was a form of entertainment.

Also I want to bang that girl.

thekremlin · 10-16-2011, 01:19 PM

Don't hate dumb marketing, hate people who are dumb enough to overpay for the word "organic". But, really, it seems like a kind of silly thing to get all worked up about.

Saint DH · 10-16-2011, 01:23 PM

I actually chuckled at the Geico commercial. The Toyota commercial made me want to stab myself in the face I hated it so much.

Mr. Blonde · 10-16-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thekremlin

But, really, it seems like a kind of silly thing to get all worked up about.

Keep it up, sheep. JUST KEEP ON BEING COMPLACENT.

But yeah, obviously, i'm not having an aneurysm about it or anything, but you could apply "seems like a silly thing to get all worked up about" to practically anything and it's basically what a person says to shut down any discussion about complaining. This is Shit Talking Central; I will complain as I wish!

Repugnant Abomination · 10-16-2011, 01:40 PM

I noticed the same thing too while in Taiwan.

You know what else drives me crazy now? The radio. It's such absolute shit. And since I don't have that many CDs I'll still usually listen to it while driving to work.

Frankly I miss not knowing who the fuck Justin Beiber was.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 10-16-2011, 01:44 PM

What station are you listening to, faggot?

Repugnant Abomination · 10-16-2011, 01:48 PM

The faggot station.

Mr. Blonde · 10-16-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

I noticed the same thing too while in Taiwan.

You know what else drives me crazy now? The radio. It's such absolute shit. And since I don't have that many CDs I'll still usually listen to it while driving to work.

Frankly I miss not knowing who the fuck Justin Beiber was.

MP3 player + auxiliary cable. If you don't have auxiliary in your car, use the tape-adapter. If only have a CD player, shell out the 50-100 bucks to get a system with Auxiliary input.

I haven't used a CD in ages.

DJ FC · 10-16-2011, 04:41 PM

Auxiliary cable!?!?!

If you're not too much of a faggot shell out another $50 and get a system with Bluetooth.

I haven't used a cable in ages.

DDTempest · 10-16-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Maybe I wish there was more of an opportunity for feedback?

There is, it's called: BUYING MEDIA. Unfortunately, the bulk of people are not willing to spend money on quality, direct to consumer, media products so they are forced to "subsidize" their profits by putting shows and movies on networks that will pay to play them.

I know, I know, lets cry for the artists that hardly get any of the proceeds from a record sale etc etc ... but the bottom line is that nobody is willing to SEEK OUT and PURCHASE products they would enjoy. Media makers benefit from selling themselves to networks, radio, cable, etc and other products benefit from bringing themselves to an audience that MIGHT be interested in what their selling. Its a flawed system, but its a system that seemingly works.

Mr. Blonde · 10-16-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ FC

Auxiliary cable!?!?!

If you're not too much of a faggot shell out another $50 and get a system with Bluetooth.

I haven't used a cable in ages.

I have an old school Ipod. No wireless connection capability.

Ugly Bastard · 10-16-2011, 10:21 PM

+1 to hating marketing. I try to remember to mute the TV during commercials and generally try to avoid consuming ads whenever possible. Would rather just pay a small subscription to a content producing company in order not to have to watch ads. This is what makes HBO, Spotify, and others so great.

Blonde, you might like Century of the Self, a documentary that gets into, among other things, how marketers have succeeded in manufacturing a sense of need among the population. You can stream it on Google Video I'm pretty sure. I've rec'd it before. It's 4 hours long. If you think you can't sit through that, then just watch the last hour (but I'd recommend the whole thing).

thekremlin · 10-30-2011, 03:27 PM

I've decided to hijack this thread as a place for us to put links to commercials we like.

A company called comparethemarketdotcom sells car and home insurance. Their spokespeople are CGI eastern european meerkats who are annoyed that people keep coming to their website, comparethemeerkat.com, trying to buy insurance. Compare the Meerkat not Compare the Market is a real website where you can compare meerkats and pick your favorite. Now I've learned that if you get insurance with comparethemarketdotcom, you get a free meerkat plush toy. I want one and am considering paying for FC's car insurance to get one.

Simples.

DJ FC · 10-31-2011, 04:41 AM

I LOVE COMEPARETHEMARKET.COM!!!

The Battle of Fearlessness - Compare The Meerkat - YouTube

Compare the Market TV Ad - Meerkat Ancestors Arrive in Russia - YouTube

New compare the meerkat advert from comparethemeerkat.com - YouTube

Ironic Mustache · 11-07-2011, 12:32 PM

This isn't the exact one I was looking for, but it's almost as bad. While trying to find the one I was looking for I realized that all Hillshire Farms commercials are terrible. I've boycotted them since the first one I saw (though I don't know that I ever bought anything from them before that).

Hillshire Farm Commercial - YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 11-07-2011, 12:43 PM

Honestly, how do people who work in offices not kill themselves?

Ironic Mustache · 11-07-2011, 12:56 PM

Most state jobs (especially ones anywhere near the HR department) are very similar to that commercial on a daily basis.

Repugnant Abomination · 11-07-2011, 03:27 PM

It's a constant struggle.

Ugly Bastard · 11-07-2011, 03:56 PM

I don't understand why commercials have to portray people as dumb, hapless, anesthetized idiots. What happened to making people feel good about themselves when pushing your product on them?

DJ FC · 11-07-2011, 04:01 PM

I always liked this one:

Kelloggs Crunchy Nut Cornflakes 'bus stop' by JWT | Advertising news | Campaign

10-16-2011, 11:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Why I hate "marketing." When living in a foreign country (and not caring very much about learning the language, as learning Korean long term is pretty much worthless), you become accustomed to tuning that language out in your every day life. I didn't watch broadcast/cable TV in Korea for almost 2 and a half years, and couldn't read most advertising in public. Also didn't listen to radio. So the minute amount of advertising I had came to me through watching TV online (minimal as I often torrented) or what I could understand while out and about. I didn't actually notice this fact until I came home and was/am barraged by ridiculous, annoying-as-fuck advertisements almost CONSTANTLY when watching TV or radio. It's crazy how accustomed people (myself before Korea, many people now) get accustomed to hearing this, or perhaps tuning it out (something I'm trying to do). Advertisments almost make me angry when I hear them now because of their relentless, pseudo-brainwashing effects they have whenever I'm trying to enjoy some media; I usually end up just turning the radio/TV off, preferring silence over my brain being told what "is" by ads. So I guess this thread is to post advertising you think is ANNOYING AS FUCK or show ways that marketing will screw with people's heads. I really think advertising dulls a lot of people's critical thinking skills, because the perceived "authority" that being on TV/radio gives. For example, a craze that is important to note is the whole "organic" and "healthy" food craze that's been going on the past 5-10 years. "Organic" is a very flexible term; I mean hell, technically EVERYTHING that grows in the wild can be labeled organic. The push for anti-oxidants being some kind of super molecule that will make you live forever is what made me think of this thread: Why doctors don't like to talk about antioxidants. - Slate Magazine

10-16-2011, 11:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,350 Internets: 290966	yea commercials and advertising blow, but w/o them no one could afford to produce content. why did you put quotation marks around "marketing?"
	#YOLO

10-16-2011, 01:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,350 Internets: 290966	What station are you listening to, faggot?
	#YOLO

10-16-2011, 04:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	Auxiliary cable!?!?! If you're not too much of a faggot shell out another $50 and get a system with Bluetooth. I haven't used a cable in ages.
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11-07-2011, 12:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Honestly, how do people who work in offices not kill themselves?
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10-16-2011, 11:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I'm with you on this. My mother falls for anything on a label. If a donut box said it could lead to less chance of getting cancer, she'd buy it. It blows my mind watching her shop.

10-16-2011, 01:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	Don't hate dumb marketing, hate people who are dumb enough to overpay for the word "organic". But, really, it seems like a kind of silly thing to get all worked up about.

10-16-2011, 01:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,147 Internets: 284753	I actually chuckled at the Geico commercial. The Toyota commercial made me want to stab myself in the face I hated it so much.

10-16-2011, 01:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	I noticed the same thing too while in Taiwan. You know what else drives me crazy now? The radio. It's such absolute shit. And since I don't have that many CDs I'll still usually listen to it while driving to work. Frankly I miss not knowing who the fuck Justin Beiber was.

10-16-2011, 01:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	The faggot station.

10-16-2011, 10:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	+1 to hating marketing. I try to remember to mute the TV during commercials and generally try to avoid consuming ads whenever possible. Would rather just pay a small subscription to a content producing company in order not to have to watch ads. This is what makes HBO, Spotify, and others so great. Blonde, you might like Century of the Self, a documentary that gets into, among other things, how marketers have succeeded in manufacturing a sense of need among the population. You can stream it on Google Video I'm pretty sure. I've rec'd it before. It's 4 hours long. If you think you can't sit through that, then just watch the last hour (but I'd recommend the whole thing).

11-07-2011, 12:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	Most state jobs (especially ones anywhere near the HR department) are very similar to that commercial on a daily basis.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

11-07-2011, 03:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	It's a constant struggle.

11-07-2011, 03:56 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I don't understand why commercials have to portray people as dumb, hapless, anesthetized idiots. What happened to making people feel good about themselves when pushing your product on them?

11-07-2011, 04:01 PM	#25 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	I always liked this one: Kelloggs Crunchy Nut Cornflakes 'bus stop' by JWT \| Advertising news \| Campaign
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

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