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sim_flex_x · 07-10-2003, 06:38 PM

haha
i'd really like to see Ugly flying over town
hell i'll buy you a pizza or two to take along on the trip

silver and cold · 07-10-2003, 06:46 PM

who will buy the pizza?

Ugly Bastard · 07-10-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by sim_flex_x:
hell i'll buy you a pizza or two to take along on the trip

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Originally posted by silver and cold:
who will buy the pizza?

Women.

Anyway, nice thought, but I weigh 165, so we'll just go ahead and stick with sim. Anywho...what day?

-Ugly Bastard

Alpha · 07-10-2003, 06:49 PM

Silver I'll buy you two pizzas to enjoy on your trip if you do it. Hell I'll throw in a Gameboy with Tetris. Fuck I'll even donate a couple magazines for you to read.

silver and cold · 07-10-2003, 06:53 PM

I will only do it, if you can talk starfish into it to!

Ugly Bastard · 07-10-2003, 07:27 PM

Alright, voice of reason has kicked in. We're not going to be able to get a human to do this, so what can we send up instead?

I think something that is alive would be the most fun. Maybe we could get a mouse or hampster or something, and make a parachute for it. We'd have to have some way that it is forced off of the balloons at a certain altitude, and then just drifts back down to Earth.

Ideas?

-Ugly Bastard

Alpha · 07-10-2003, 07:33 PM

When balloons reach a cetain altitude they pop correct? That could be a release mechanism. Granted we wouldn't be able to see where the animal went seeing that it would be quite a while before the balloons popped. Maybe you could write a note on the parachute telling anyone that if they found the animal they could contact Nubblies with information on where it landed?
Besides that I'm lost for ideas besides the obvious fuck it, they're animals, if they die oh well.

Ugly Bastard · 07-10-2003, 08:05 PM

Not a bad idea, Alpha. I'd like to try to chase the balloons for as far as possible though, it'd be pimp if we could catch the rat when he came back down.

-Ugly Bastard

Alpha · 07-10-2003, 08:32 PM

Then why don't you just rig a small cage with a parachute on top and connect all that with some bottle rockets? You could catch that on the way down.

Actually I was thinking there has to be someone smart enough on Nubblies to rig a remote control that would release the rat from the balloons. I mean really it can't be that hard can it?

Trout Sniffer · 07-10-2003, 08:57 PM

I'm fairly small at 135 pounds and you can bet your nuts that I would be more than happy to float my ass in the air with helium balloons. The only thing is, would one tank float me? I'm having my doubts about that. Plus, how many damn balloons would it take?

Anyways, I would strap on balloons and take to the air.

sim_flex_x · 07-10-2003, 09:51 PM

if trout's willing to do it I say we use him :]

however if you do use an animal, don't use hamsters, i have a fondness for then and i'd hate to see one die unnecessarily

Alpha · 07-10-2003, 10:28 PM

A tank is filled with compressed helium, which will fill up a large ammount of balloons. Obviously whoever is buying the balloons and tank would need to talk to whoever they are buying it from and get a good estimate. But My personal estimate which is based on nothing but my own assumptions is that it would be enough to fill enough balloons.

But out of curiosity Trout, are you serious about actually doing this?

[ July 10, 2003, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: Alpha ]

Rufus · 07-10-2003, 10:52 PM

i could catch an appossum...i have tons of those in my woods.. it would be like a giant rat floating through the sky..it would scare the shit out of a girl when it landed...those things hiss really loud to...

silver and cold · 07-11-2003, 12:06 AM

Haha that would be hilarious!

StDx · 07-11-2003, 01:38 AM

I'll bet trout could scare the shit out of a girl when he landed too though

Orgazmo · 07-11-2003, 01:40 AM

A.) One tank would definitely not be enough to float Trout...or anyone near his weight.

B.) An opossum would be great to float. It's an ugly fucker, so no one cares if it dies...plus it could hiss and shit as it goes up. It has my vote.

Trout Sniffer · 07-11-2003, 01:58 AM

I am more than serious about doing this. A parachute would definitely be on my list of things to have though. As would a pizza since somebody already said they would donate that.

I say somebody does some research to see how much helium you would need. It has to be on the internet somewhere.

Trout Sniffer · 07-11-2003, 02:28 AM

I believe I have figured it out. According to some information I got, it would take approximately 2090 cubic feet of helium to lift me off the ground.

Here is the information from http://howthingswork.virginia.edu/balloons.html :

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A helium balloon experiences an upward force that is equal to the weight of the air it displaces (the buoyant force on the balloon) minus its own weight. At sea level, air weighs about 0.078 pounds per cubic foot, so the upward buoyant force on a cubic foot of helium is about 0.078 pounds. A cubic foot of helium weighs only about 0.011 pounds. The difference between the upward buoyant force on the cubic foot of helium and the weight of the helium is the amount of extra weight that the helium can lift, which is about 0.067 pounds per cubic foot. To lift a 100 pound person, you'll need about 1500 cubic feet of helium in your balloon.

Alpha · 07-11-2003, 02:36 AM

So how many balloons is that?

Orgazmo · 07-11-2003, 02:38 AM

If we used normal 11-12" balloons, each balloon would hold .5 cubic feet of helium. This much helium has enough power to lift 14 grams, or 0.0308644 pounds. At this rate, it would take 4,374 balloons to lift Trout Sniffer off the ground. Of course, this isn't taking into consideration the weigh of the balloons themselves...which, i'm guessing, would be reasonably hefty at the 4,000+ balloon mark.

I've done a little research around the net just to get a feel for tank prices. It appears as if a tank that will fill about 500 11-12" balloons (a tank that holds 250-300 cubic feet of helium) costs somewhere around $100. This mean it would be at least $900 to lift Trout, probably closer to $1,000 after we take into consideration the weight of the balloons. We're not going to lift a human.

I just searched a bit more and found cheaper prices on tanks...but it's still going to cost a hell-ton...not to mention that these prices don't mean anything, local prices are what matters

Now, imagine a opossum, weighing probably not any more than 10 pounds. With 500 balloons filled with helium (the more full they are, the better), we could lift 15.4322 pounds, which could be described as easily enough to elevate the creature.

Because we're not really interested in balloons as much as we are the helium inside, I propose that we simply buy huge ass trash bags and fill them with helium. We them tether them together and, eventually, to a limb of the victim. Since we'll be using bigger containers, their weight should, in theory at least, be less than the collective balloons. Also, I'm thinking it'd probably be quite a bit cheaper.

Anyway, the point of this was to crush any hopes of lifting a human...and to add fuel to the "lift a opossum" fire.

Trout Sniffer · 07-11-2003, 02:40 AM

This really pisses me off. I wanted to be float through the air from helium balloons.

Orgazmo · 07-11-2003, 02:41 AM

If you want to flip the bill, I'll make the arrangements...

Alpha · 07-11-2003, 02:53 AM

You could tie all the bags tight to keep the helium in EXCEPT one. That one would be the difference between the opposum floating higher to it slowly falling. That way... If planned out perfectly the opossum would attain a decent altitude, but then fall while not being to high. Which would fulfill UB's dreams of following the critter to where ever it lands.

Orgazmo · 07-11-2003, 03:52 AM

I like the idea of tying a note to it telling whoever finds it to get on Nubblies.net to report...

Ugly Bastard · 07-11-2003, 09:27 AM

This whole thread is starting to blow my mind. Alright, let's just be honest, we're not going to be able to fly a human, or at least not yet, until we both get rich and become more knowledgeable of this shit.

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Originally posted by Orgazmo:
An opossum would be great to float. It's an ugly fucker, so no one cares if it dies...plus it could hiss and shit as it goes up. It has my vote.

I concur (that really made me laugh too). The same people that researched how much helium we would need to lift Trout, do the same with an opposum. I say we move on this plan, provided no one else has any plausible, ground-breaking ideas. So yeah, I'm in....

I will purchase 25% of the helium needed to lift the opposum, so find out how much we'll need, and you've got a quarter of it paid right off of the bat. Should we set a date for this thing so we have something to hold ourselves to?

-Ugly Bastard

07-10-2003, 06:46 PM	#52 (permalink)
silver and cold Ish... Join Date: May 2003 Location: this nowhere Posts: 1,680 Internets: 10	who will buy the pizza?
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07-10-2003, 06:49 PM	#54 (permalink)
Alpha Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,003 Internets: 82	Silver I'll buy you two pizzas to enjoy on your trip if you do it. Hell I'll throw in a Gameboy with Tetris. Fuck I'll even donate a couple magazines for you to read.
	Gods are but men with immortal souls.

07-10-2003, 06:53 PM	#55 (permalink)
silver and cold Ish... Join Date: May 2003 Location: this nowhere Posts: 1,680 Internets: 10	I will only do it, if you can talk starfish into it to!
	the killer in me is the killer in you.

07-10-2003, 07:33 PM	#57 (permalink)
Alpha Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,003 Internets: 82	When balloons reach a cetain altitude they pop correct? That could be a release mechanism. Granted we wouldn't be able to see where the animal went seeing that it would be quite a while before the balloons popped. Maybe you could write a note on the parachute telling anyone that if they found the animal they could contact Nubblies with information on where it landed? Besides that I'm lost for ideas besides the obvious fuck it, they're animals, if they die oh well.
	Gods are but men with immortal souls.

07-10-2003, 08:32 PM	#59 (permalink)
Alpha Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,003 Internets: 82	Then why don't you just rig a small cage with a parachute on top and connect all that with some bottle rockets? You could catch that on the way down. Actually I was thinking there has to be someone smart enough on Nubblies to rig a remote control that would release the rat from the balloons. I mean really it can't be that hard can it?
	Gods are but men with immortal souls.

07-10-2003, 06:38 PM	#51 (permalink)
sim_flex_x Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Pete Posts: 690 Internets: 10	haha i'd really like to see Ugly flying over town hell i'll buy you a pizza or two to take along on the trip

07-10-2003, 07:27 PM	#56 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Alright, voice of reason has kicked in. We're not going to be able to get a human to do this, so what can we send up instead? I think something that is alive would be the most fun. Maybe we could get a mouse or hampster or something, and make a parachute for it. We'd have to have some way that it is forced off of the balloons at a certain altitude, and then just drifts back down to Earth. Ideas? -Ugly Bastard

07-10-2003, 08:05 PM	#58 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Not a bad idea, Alpha. I'd like to try to chase the balloons for as far as possible though, it'd be pimp if we could catch the rat when he came back down. -Ugly Bastard

07-10-2003, 08:57 PM	#60 (permalink)
Trout Sniffer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Straight Outta Compton Posts: 1,003 Internets: 123	I'm fairly small at 135 pounds and you can bet your nuts that I would be more than happy to float my ass in the air with helium balloons. The only thing is, would one tank float me? I'm having my doubts about that. Plus, how many damn balloons would it take? Anyways, I would strap on balloons and take to the air.
	The Glyde don't sign no autographs

07-10-2003, 09:51 PM	#61 (permalink)
sim_flex_x Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Pete Posts: 690 Internets: 10	if trout's willing to do it I say we use him :] however if you do use an animal, don't use hamsters, i have a fondness for then and i'd hate to see one die unnecessarily

07-10-2003, 10:28 PM	#62 (permalink)
Alpha Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,003 Internets: 82	A tank is filled with compressed helium, which will fill up a large ammount of balloons. Obviously whoever is buying the balloons and tank would need to talk to whoever they are buying it from and get a good estimate. But My personal estimate which is based on nothing but my own assumptions is that it would be enough to fill enough balloons. But out of curiosity Trout, are you serious about actually doing this? [ July 10, 2003, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: Alpha ]
	Gods are but men with immortal souls.

07-10-2003, 10:52 PM	#63 (permalink)
Rufus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: warsaw,in,usa Posts: 115 Internets: 10	i could catch an appossum...i have tons of those in my woods.. it would be like a giant rat floating through the sky..it would scare the shit out of a girl when it landed...those things hiss really loud to...

07-11-2003, 12:06 AM	#64 (permalink)
silver and cold Ish... Join Date: May 2003 Location: this nowhere Posts: 1,680 Internets: 10	Haha that would be hilarious!
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07-11-2003, 01:38 AM	#65 (permalink)
StDx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: right behind you Posts: 931 Internets: 306	I'll bet trout could scare the shit out of a girl when he landed too though

07-11-2003, 01:40 AM	#66 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,732 Internets: 311447	A.) One tank would definitely not be enough to float Trout...or anyone near his weight. B.) An opossum would be great to float. It's an ugly fucker, so no one cares if it dies...plus it could hiss and shit as it goes up. It has my vote.

07-11-2003, 01:58 AM	#67 (permalink)
Trout Sniffer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Straight Outta Compton Posts: 1,003 Internets: 123	I am more than serious about doing this. A parachute would definitely be on my list of things to have though. As would a pizza since somebody already said they would donate that. I say somebody does some research to see how much helium you would need. It has to be on the internet somewhere.
	The Glyde don't sign no autographs

07-11-2003, 02:36 AM	#69 (permalink)
Alpha Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,003 Internets: 82	So how many balloons is that?
	Gods are but men with immortal souls.

07-11-2003, 02:38 AM	#70 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,732 Internets: 311447	If we used normal 11-12" balloons, each balloon would hold .5 cubic feet of helium. This much helium has enough power to lift 14 grams, or 0.0308644 pounds. At this rate, it would take 4,374 balloons to lift Trout Sniffer off the ground. Of course, this isn't taking into consideration the weigh of the balloons themselves...which, i'm guessing, would be reasonably hefty at the 4,000+ balloon mark. I've done a little research around the net just to get a feel for tank prices. It appears as if a tank that will fill about 500 11-12" balloons (a tank that holds 250-300 cubic feet of helium) costs somewhere around $100. This mean it would be at least $900 to lift Trout, probably closer to $1,000 after we take into consideration the weight of the balloons. We're not going to lift a human. I just searched a bit more and found cheaper prices on tanks...but it's still going to cost a hell-ton...not to mention that these prices don't mean anything, local prices are what matters Now, imagine a opossum, weighing probably not any more than 10 pounds. With 500 balloons filled with helium (the more full they are, the better), we could lift 15.4322 pounds, which could be described as easily enough to elevate the creature. Because we're not really interested in balloons as much as we are the helium inside, I propose that we simply buy huge ass trash bags and fill them with helium. We them tether them together and, eventually, to a limb of the victim. Since we'll be using bigger containers, their weight should, in theory at least, be less than the collective balloons. Also, I'm thinking it'd probably be quite a bit cheaper. Anyway, the point of this was to crush any hopes of lifting a human...and to add fuel to the "lift a opossum" fire.

07-11-2003, 02:40 AM	#71 (permalink)
Trout Sniffer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Straight Outta Compton Posts: 1,003 Internets: 123	This really pisses me off. I wanted to be float through the air from helium balloons.
	The Glyde don't sign no autographs

07-11-2003, 02:41 AM	#72 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,732 Internets: 311447	If you want to flip the bill, I'll make the arrangements...

07-11-2003, 02:53 AM	#73 (permalink)
Alpha Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,003 Internets: 82	You could tie all the bags tight to keep the helium in EXCEPT one. That one would be the difference between the opposum floating higher to it slowly falling. That way... If planned out perfectly the opossum would attain a decent altitude, but then fall while not being to high. Which would fulfill UB's dreams of following the critter to where ever it lands.
	Gods are but men with immortal souls.

07-11-2003, 03:52 AM	#74 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,732 Internets: 311447	I like the idea of tying a note to it telling whoever finds it to get on Nubblies.net to report...