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Unread 11-07-2011, 04:05 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I am amazed that marketing works so well, and it clearly does. I'm sure it works on me too, but you never seem to notice it.

Oh, those "idea boards" or whatever marketing majors make in college are pretty fucking funny.
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The best example I can give is Snickers. How many times have you gone to a vending machine and you are just hungry as hell and you go with Snickers because somehow you think it will be more filling than any of the other candy bars?

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Well, it DOES have peanuts in it..

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Best example of how effective marketing can be is that men will take a pill to get their dicks to work and it's basically completely socially acceptable.
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Best example of how effective marketing can be is that men will take a pill to get their dicks to work and it's basically completely socially acceptable.
Why wouldn't it be?

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Unread 11-08-2011, 01:56 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't understand why commercials have to portray people as dumb, hapless, anesthetized idiots. What happened to making people feel good about themselves when pushing your product on them?
The only ones that seem to do this are herpes and ed ads.
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The only ones that seem to do this are herpes and ed ads.
Are you nuts? Basically every commercial does this. First example off the top of my head (that took me half a second to come up with): State Farm commercial where guy crashes his car into a telephone poll and has to crawl back to the empowered female insurance chick for help and fails at holding back his tears. Or basically every beer commercial ("come talk to me when you want a real light beer").

A majority of commercials portray people as hapless schmucks completely dependent on and helpless without the product being peddled. If anything, ED/herpes commercials are some of the few that actually show people in a positive light out living a normal, happy life.
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If anything, ED/herpes commercials are some of the few that actually show people in a positive light out living a normal, happy life.
This is what I meant. All of the Viagra commercials have the dudes being pretty kick-ass and fixing their problems. Old muscle car overheating in the desert, pulls into gas station mechanic shop in the middle of nowhere, throws some water in the radiator, fixed. Broken sailboat, fixes that shit w/ his belt. Broken dick, use some viagra, go bang your cougar waiting for you back at home.
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Because cool guys aren't funny and hapless schmucks are?

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Dos Equis doesn't portray the beer drinker as a schmuck and I love it.


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And in a similar light: the Old Spice guy.
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Because cool guys aren't funny and hapless schmucks are?
This is dumb. I'm both cool and hilarious so...

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Dos Equis doesn't portray the beer drinker as a schmuck and I love it.
The Dos Equis most interesting man in the world commercials piss me off too.

"Stay thirsty my friends."

Really? So don't quench my thirst with delicious beer? Fuck off most terrible advice giving asshole in the world.

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The Dos Equis most interesting man in the world commercials piss me off too.

"Stay thirsty my friends."

Really? So don't quench my thirst with delicious beer? Fuck off most terrible advice giving asshole in the world.

I think it's a play off of this:


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I think it's a play off of this:

Or maybe something people are familiar with ...


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So anyways, back on topic. I just saw this commercial and I think it demonstrates a lot of what Blonde is angry about. To be honest it makes me angry too.

Somehow it's acceptable for a weak male to be abused by authorities and sexually molested. If this commercial were about male security guards stealing a woman's shit and then strip searching her I'm pretty sure the public would be outraged and everybody would know about it:



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I'd strip search Federer. Or Nadal. Or really any tennis player besides Murray. Agassi in his prime. Mrow.

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The ad SHOULD be completely acceptable. The ridiculous thing is people getting offended by your hypothetical reverse-gender example.

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The ad SHOULD be completely acceptable.
Why? Is it okay to strip search people unjustly and steal their belongings?

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No. It's not a serious proposal that we strip search people based on their attractiveness. It's an advertisement attempting humor.

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The point is, if equality is truly wanted, then things like this shouldn't be socially okay.

If things like this are socially okay, then so should be discrimination against women, and them making less money than we do for the same job.

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