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fat_retard · 11-06-2003, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
The second part of a three part movie is always the crappiest.

Not the Original Star Wars trilogy, The Empire Strikes back was the Best of the three in my opinion.

Didn't see Titan's post, sorry.

[ November 06, 2003, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: fat_retard ]

Ugly Bastard · 11-06-2003, 10:48 PM

Uh...so long as we're on the subject. When does Sex

victim · 11-06-2003, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
Uh...so long as we're on the subject. When does Sex

Wha?!? Did part of your post get cut off?

ProfessorNumber · 11-06-2003, 11:48 PM

Titan: I think my opinion is justified. The Empire Strikes Back was a pile of dog shit. Sure, it had action, but it lacked any sense of closure. You are just left hanging, wondering how everything will be resolved in the third movie. Regardless of what you think, it is very fair to apply my logic to the Matrix series. I don't think anyone would disagree that Reloaded kind of sucked. But, fact of the matter is, it did what was necessary to set the stage for the third, and continue explaining the complexities of the first movie.

Titan · 11-07-2003, 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
my logic

Your logic:

Quote:

Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
I think my opinion is justified. The Empire Strikes Back was a pile of dog shit. Sure, it had action, but it lacked any sense of closure.

The fact that you think it was a pile of dog shit and that a movie has to have closure to be good is far from logic. 'Course, you did say "my" logic. So it might be royally fucked up.

ProfessorNumber · 11-07-2003, 12:50 AM

Titan- I personally hate movies that leave you hanging; even if I know that the following movie in a the series will provide closure.

Personally I found the Empire Strikes Back to be depressing and not wholly entertaining. It's a subjective matter, and I was originally trying to offer insight as to why the second installment of the Matrix movies was so disliked.

Fuck off.

Ugly Bastard · 11-07-2003, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by victim:
Did part of your post get cut off?

Yes it did...that's weird.

I was asking when Part Three of Star Wars comes out.

-Ugly Bastard

Titan · 11-07-2003, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
The second part of a three part movie is always the crappiest

And I was merely disproving this.
Go have sex.

ProfessorNumber · 11-07-2003, 09:13 PM

Alright, once again, it appears I did not make it clear enough. That statement is an opinion.

I stated that opinion, because it seemed like everyone hated the second matrix, but weren't listing good reasons why. Hence, my insight as to why the second movie in a trilogy is OFTEN (but not always) the worst.

victim · 11-07-2003, 09:57 PM

PN:

Your logic was faulty. If you are stating an opinion, and wish to avoid the logical fallicy you keep commiting... you should avoid using terms like everyone, anyone, always, and never. They're objective terms, and you are using them in a subjective manner.

It may keep the your old friend Titan, the "grammar fairy" off your ass.

Besides, I liked Reloaded quite a bit... probably because I didn't walk into it expecting closure. That would be stupid. It's the second part of a trilogy. It wasn't intended to work as a standalone. This should be painfully obvious considering that they released the next movie only 6 months later and filmed the two as one big movie. I think that Reloaded left you wanting more is a strong point, not a weakness.

ProfessorNumber · 11-08-2003, 01:04 AM

Victim, you are correct in every way. What I did was present a subjective manner in an objective way. I realize this; however, I feel like everyone is overlooking my main focus.

I was merely trying to offer a reason as to why people typically don't like the 2nd part of a trilogy. Most people unintelligently walk into the movie expecting something as original and spectacular as the first. It rarely happens, yet despite this, people always seem to expect it to, which is just plain foolish.

I personally didn't like Reloaded. BUT, I don't think the W. brothers could have done a better job. That's my compromise.

Titan · 11-10-2003, 02:51 AM

So I finally saw th

the_butcher · 11-10-2003, 02:58 AM

Yep. Saw Matrix: Revolutions this weekend. Conclusion: Worst of the three.

This movie sucked the biggest dog balls it could find. Dialogue was weak, fight sequences were unrealistic and retarded, and the ending was even worse. The only good part was the fight seqence between the mech-warrior type machines and the sentinels. Other than that, it motherfucking sucked. Fuck the Matrix.

tonguegina · 11-10-2003, 02:58 AM

Yeah, I didn't expect it to end how it did, but after seeing it and taking it in as a whole, I completely understand why everything had to happen the way it did.

I think the worst was the second one, but not because of all of the reasons that PN said. ESB is the best of the Star Wars movies. Probably because it's the most dark and depressing of them.

[ November 10, 2003, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: tonguegina ]

Titan · 11-10-2003, 03:00 AM

I can't believe I never even thought about how it ended as an option. But like I said, that's exactly how it should have been, they knew what they were doing with the plot.

Alpha · 11-11-2003, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Titan:
I can't believe I never even thought about how it ended as an option. But like I said, that's exactly how it should have been, they knew what they were doing with the plot.

I'm glad one of my friends agrees.

11-06-2003, 11:48 PM	#29 (permalink)
ProfessorNumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,215 Internets: 3373	Titan: I think my opinion is justified. The Empire Strikes Back was a pile of dog shit. Sure, it had action, but it lacked any sense of closure. You are just left hanging, wondering how everything will be resolved in the third movie. Regardless of what you think, it is very fair to apply my logic to the Matrix series. I don't think anyone would disagree that Reloaded kind of sucked. But, fact of the matter is, it did what was necessary to set the stage for the third, and continue explaining the complexities of the first movie.
	Smoke a cigarette and lie some more -- These conversations kill.

11-07-2003, 12:50 AM	#31 (permalink)
ProfessorNumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,215 Internets: 3373	Titan- I personally hate movies that leave you hanging; even if I know that the following movie in a the series will provide closure. Personally I found the Empire Strikes Back to be depressing and not wholly entertaining. It's a subjective matter, and I was originally trying to offer insight as to why the second installment of the Matrix movies was so disliked. Fuck off.
	Smoke a cigarette and lie some more -- These conversations kill.

11-07-2003, 09:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
ProfessorNumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,215 Internets: 3373	Alright, once again, it appears I did not make it clear enough. That statement is an opinion. I stated that opinion, because it seemed like everyone hated the second matrix, but weren't listing good reasons why. Hence, my insight as to why the second movie in a trilogy is OFTEN (but not always) the worst.
	Smoke a cigarette and lie some more -- These conversations kill.

11-07-2003, 09:57 PM	#35 (permalink)
victim Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 985 Internets: 10	PN: Your logic was faulty. If you are stating an opinion, and wish to avoid the logical fallicy you keep commiting... you should avoid using terms like everyone, anyone, always, and never. They're objective terms, and you are using them in a subjective manner. It may keep the your old friend Titan, the "grammar fairy" off your ass. Besides, I liked Reloaded quite a bit... probably because I didn't walk into it expecting closure. That would be stupid. It's the second part of a trilogy. It wasn't intended to work as a standalone. This should be painfully obvious considering that they released the next movie only 6 months later and filmed the two as one big movie. I think that Reloaded left you wanting more is a strong point, not a weakness.
	get off my internet!!!

11-08-2003, 01:04 AM	#36 (permalink)
ProfessorNumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,215 Internets: 3373	Victim, you are correct in every way. What I did was present a subjective manner in an objective way. I realize this; however, I feel like everyone is overlooking my main focus. I was merely trying to offer a reason as to why people typically don't like the 2nd part of a trilogy. Most people unintelligently walk into the movie expecting something as original and spectacular as the first. It rarely happens, yet despite this, people always seem to expect it to, which is just plain foolish. I personally didn't like Reloaded. BUT, I don't think the W. brothers could have done a better job. That's my compromise.
	Smoke a cigarette and lie some more -- These conversations kill.

11-06-2003, 10:48 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Uh...so long as we're on the subject. When does Sex

11-10-2003, 02:51 AM	#37 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	So I finally saw th
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11-10-2003, 02:58 AM	#38 (permalink)
the_butcher Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ::: the recesses of my mind ::: Posts: 1,023 Internets: 10	Yep. Saw Matrix: Revolutions this weekend. Conclusion: Worst of the three. This movie sucked the biggest dog balls it could find. Dialogue was weak, fight sequences were unrealistic and retarded, and the ending was even worse. The only good part was the fight seqence between the mech-warrior type machines and the sentinels. Other than that, it motherfucking sucked. Fuck the Matrix.
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11-10-2003, 02:58 AM	#39 (permalink)
tonguegina I like dirt. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,861 Internets: 2790	Yeah, I didn't expect it to end how it did, but after seeing it and taking it in as a whole, I completely understand why everything had to happen the way it did. I think the worst was the second one, but not because of all of the reasons that PN said. ESB is the best of the Star Wars movies. Probably because it's the most dark and depressing of them. [ November 10, 2003, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: tonguegina ]

11-10-2003, 03:00 AM	#40 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	I can't believe I never even thought about how it ended as an option. But like I said, that's exactly how it should have been, they knew what they were doing with the plot.
	I do what the fuck I want.