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SittinOnDubsWGW · 02-14-2006, 02:05 AM

An hour and twenty-one minute long video discussing the 9/11 incident. Basically a conspiracy theory about how the government did it. I found it to be rather interesting, I don't necessarily believe a lot of it, but I did find the information intriguing.

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vaga1220 * · 02-14-2006, 06:13 PM

wellcome to how many years ago?

tonguegina · 02-15-2006, 02:45 AM

For those of you who loved Lazy Sunday and have lived in Muncie...

http://www.break.com/index/lazymuncie.html

SittinOnDubsWGW · 02-15-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tonguegina

For those of you who loved Lazy Sunday and have lived in Muncie...

http://www.break.com/index/lazymuncie.html

I was just getting ready to post this. A friend sent me it and for the first minute or so I was skeptical, but then it was good.

The Jim Davis cameo is great.

Mr. Blonde · 02-15-2006, 02:18 PM

That is fucking amazing. I'm actually proud. Wow.

02-15-2006, 04:18 PM

Hahaha very nice.

Ugly Bastard · 02-15-2006, 04:56 PM

Wow that was fucking great. I was proud too. I'm still leaving as soon as my lease is up... but still... nice video.

ninjaface · 02-15-2006, 05:47 PM

They said Ft. Wayne.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-17-2006, 08:15 AM

http://www.break.com/index/skatmanrace.html

ninjaface · 02-17-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by THEINCREDIBLEdork

http://www.break.com/index/skatmanrace.html

Almost funny. Good try, dork.

Ugly Bastard · 02-17-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SittinOnDubsWGW

An hour and twenty-one minute long video discussing the 9/11 incident. Basically a conspiracy theory about how the government did it. I found it to be rather interesting, I don't necessarily believe a lot of it, but I did find the information intriguing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59923762628848

I wanted to pause in the middle of this to say that this is actually a pretty impressive publication. I'll wait until I've seen the whole thing to decide if I think it's BS or not, but at the very least, there are some cool videos and graphics from 9/11 that I've never seen before.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-17-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjaface

Almost funny. Good try, dork.

I didn't think it was funny, I thought it was kickass. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to watch it again.

02-17-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by THEINCREDIBLEdork

http://www.break.com/index/skatmanrace.html

ahaha, that's great. It's well made.

Ugly Bastard · 02-17-2006, 01:21 PM

Wow. I finished that and highly recommend everyone watch it. Even if you watch it and think the whole thing is complete bullshit, it's still worth it's value in images; plus it never hurts to open your eyes to other possibilities.

A few specific things about it:

1. I don't like that it was narrated by someone who sounded like a high school emo kid who wears those anti-government patches on his backpack.

2. I was very impressed with how they supported their arguements. I sort of expected this to be one of those documentaries like Bowling for Columbine that is built around exaggerations and bullshit, but, after a first viewing, everything seemed pretty believable. It's hard to refute video evidence.

3. A lot of questions that I've always sort of subconsciously wondered, such as; "how did the people use their cell phones on the planes even though cell phones don't work on planes?", "how come the buildings collapsed when they were built to withstand a plane impact?", and "wtf is up with that Flight 93 thing that crashed in PN?" were all expanded on in this video.

I'd like to hear someone who thinks this video is complete bullshit back up their arguement as to why. Because I've gotta be honest, after watching that, their thesis that the government was behind 9/11 makes a decent amount of sense.

02-17-2006, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

I wanted to pause in the middle of this to say that this is actually a pretty impressive publication. I'll wait until I've seen the whole thing to decide if I think it's BS or not, but at the very least, there are some cool videos and graphics from 9/11 that I've never seen before.

These kind of videos are so fucking frustrating though, they just throw facts around and don't cite sources or even tell what the data means.

They talk about "put options," being severl times their daily average, but how is this daily average calucated? Is it over a period of 5 years? Over a period of a year?

Just before Sept. 2001, the economy had began a downturn (most people think 9-11 had to do with it, but it didn't). Even without 9-11 the economy would have been in a recession anyways.

Ugly Bastard · 02-17-2006, 01:49 PM

A couple more things I just remembered:

4. I had never heard about this before watching this video, so it's possible it's complete bullshit, but: The video has a clip out of some media outlet that is a quote from Osama bin Laden the day after the attacks where he refutes the claims that he is responsible for it. The only reason it officially "came out" that bin Laden did it was because "our military found a tape in an abandoned house in Afghanistan that was bin Laden's voice claiming responsibility for the attacks". They didn't substantiate this part of the video very well, but if what they reported is true... that's pretty amazing. I don't find it so hard to believe that bin Laden had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

5. Gulliani (sp) was tied into this video a little bit. At one point I got chills at the thought of him winning the next Presidential election, 'cause this video sort of eluded to the fact that he is tied in with the "tyrants" (as they put it) who are responsible for 9/11 (according to them, the "Republicans" in charge of our country right now).

6. I guess the one part of the video that freaked me out the most was that Flight 93, the one which supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania, left no evidence whatsoever of a plane crash. They have quotes from the coroner on scene that morning who said "after 20 minutes I stopped being coroner, there were no bodies at that scene" (nor were there any parts to a plane). Then the video goes on to examine evidence that Flight 93 landed safely in Cleveland; the same Cleveland airport that was unique in that everyone in the airport was forced to leave by government officials because "a hijacked plane is supposedly going to land here". As for the people who were portrayed as the "let's roll" heroes... that's the chilling part. This video demonstrated that there is no evidence to suggest a plane crashed in Pennsylvania, it also demonstrated that (at the time) an "unknown" plane with 200 people on board was landed at the Cleveland airport where all passengers were evacuated to a nearby NASA building. Was that Flight 93? If so... where are it's passengers?

____________

In conclusion, this whole thing is pretty confusing from a logical standpoint. I mean, say the whole video is true. The Bush administration is behind all of this, and 9/11 was one big military-coordinated psychological attack on our people. If they are willing to go that far to make a few bucks by staging a terrorist attack, and murdering our own citizens to cover-up a plane crash that doesn't add up, why wouldn't they take steps to ensure that incredibly well-made videos like this aren't released to the public? Why not murder the guys who were making this video? It just seems to me that if everything in this video were true, it would be impossible for us ever to learn about it, because the forces behind the attack in said video would never allow such a video to be made public.

However, there is another side to this coin. This video brought up A LOT of good questions about things that does not add up about 9/11. My question is; if the government has nothing to hide, why aren't they calming down people like me with the evidence I would need to see in order to believe they had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11? For example, the video talks about how all of the buildings surrounding the Pentagon had surveillance footage of the attack, but moments after the attack, FBI officials stormed these buildings and confiscated all footage. If there is video out there that shows exactly what happened to the Pentagon, why doesn't the government release it for us to see? What do they have to hide? The fact that documentaries are made like this to show that the gov. might have been behind 9/11 makes me think that if the gov. isn't behind 9/11, then they would be releasing stuff that proves the guys who made this documentary are on crack.

I hope someone else who gives as much of a shit about this 9/11 stuff other than me watches this video and shares some thoughts. Not to sound like a hippie, but after watching this video... I'm having a hard time believing that the government didn't have at least some role in the 9/11 attacks other than that which is common knowledge.

SittinOnDubsWGW · 02-18-2006, 01:37 PM

That was the main reason that I posted the 9/11 post. I understand that it is old news, but the video was put together really well and I found it interesting. I had not seen a lot of the video footage before that is on this video and I found that to be pretty interesting.

Just as you stated UB, the whole flight 93 thing was one of the things that I found interesting. That whole situation never really added up to me either.

Ugly Bastard · 02-18-2006, 01:49 PM

Yea, a day later I haven't stopped thinking about that video. I'm not swallowing everything it reported as the Biblical truth. I'm simply wanting to hear someone else's opinions on the video, because it seemed to me that they brought up several interesting points.

The whole Pentagon thing bothers the shit out of me. The fact that in the video, they more or less proved that it was impossible that a commercial jet was responsible for the damage to that building; yet this is what is being reported by our government. I dunno... the whole thing just sorta bothers me...

Heaven Can Wait · 02-18-2006, 06:52 PM

http://www.break.com/index/britishiraq12.html

Fuck that is the best video i have ever seen.
they are children as well, even better.

Ugly Bastard · 02-18-2006, 09:48 PM

I don't find anything cool, funny, or commendable about that video at all. Kinda sick to be honest.

Mr. Blonde · 02-19-2006, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

I don't find anything cool, funny, or commendable about that video at all. Kinda sick to be honest.

Agreed. Especially when the mothers are screaming in the background and the kids are yelling "don't hurt me". Yeah, they threw rocks, so detain them and prosecute them. Don't forcibly restrain them and beat them whilst doing so. Not cool

Ugly Bastard · 02-19-2006, 03:17 AM

Watching this video again to see how a second viewing sits with me. In doing so, I remembered two distinct flashes from my own personal thoughts on 9/11/01. They were:

1. That I was shocked the heros of Flight 93 were able to storm the cockpit and intentionally crash the plane. I was always amazed at how they were able to have the foresight that they were going to die anyway, yet in a moment of (what I would think would be) complete terror, have the power to overtake the hijackers and crash the plane in the middle of empty Pennsylvania.

2. I also remember being shocked to piss when the towers collapse. I distinctly remember telling my Mother, as we watched it live on TV, "wow! I didn't actually expect the buildings to collapse, did you?"

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-19-2006, 03:40 AM

get a job you bum

Ugly Bastard · 02-19-2006, 03:43 AM

Okay after finishing watching it a second time, I picked up on a lot more things about this video that I think are bullshit. The producers are just generally pretty quick to jump to conclusions over sketchy (at best) evidence. You can tell the people who made this video want to believe the conspiracy that the government is behind 9/11, so they're doing everything they can to slant the facts to make it look that way.

I'm still glad I watched this, and still recommend others watch it. There are certainly some good points they bring up that I would love to have answered. The 3 things I would most like to know are:

1. Why did the towers collapse when they were built to withstand plane crashes?

2. Why does the damage to the Pentagon resemble nothing like what a 747 would do?

3. What is up with the mystery surrounding the Flight 93 crash in Pennsylvania, and why isn't that part of 9/11 discussed more openly?

Blonde said he was going to watch it tonight. I'll be curious to hear his thoughts.

Heaven Can Wait · 02-19-2006, 06:28 AM

They got what they deserved, you must administer some kind of pain for throwing rocks. A nice slapping around, rubber bullets etc, it's not lethal force so the kids really are lucky they didn't get shot.

Stones and shit are no joke, they hurt.

If they wanna play like big boys they'll be treated like big boys, all there is to it.

02-14-2006, 06:13 PM	#702 (permalink)
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02-15-2006, 02:18 PM	#705 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	That is fucking amazing. I'm actually proud. Wow.
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02-15-2006, 04:18 PM	#706 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	Hahaha very nice.
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02-17-2006, 08:15 AM	#709 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	http://www.break.com/index/skatmanrace.html
	#YOLO

02-17-2006, 01:49 PM	#716 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	A couple more things I just remembered: 4. I had never heard about this before watching this video, so it's possible it's complete bullshit, but: The video has a clip out of some media outlet that is a quote from Osama bin Laden the day after the attacks where he refutes the claims that he is responsible for it. The only reason it officially "came out" that bin Laden did it was because "our military found a tape in an abandoned house in Afghanistan that was bin Laden's voice claiming responsibility for the attacks". They didn't substantiate this part of the video very well, but if what they reported is true... that's pretty amazing. I don't find it so hard to believe that bin Laden had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. 5. Gulliani (sp) was tied into this video a little bit. At one point I got chills at the thought of him winning the next Presidential election, 'cause this video sort of eluded to the fact that he is tied in with the "tyrants" (as they put it) who are responsible for 9/11 (according to them, the "Republicans" in charge of our country right now). 6. I guess the one part of the video that freaked me out the most was that Flight 93, the one which supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania, left no evidence whatsoever of a plane crash. They have quotes from the coroner on scene that morning who said "after 20 minutes I stopped being coroner, there were no bodies at that scene" (nor were there any parts to a plane). Then the video goes on to examine evidence that Flight 93 landed safely in Cleveland; the same Cleveland airport that was unique in that everyone in the airport was forced to leave by government officials because "a hijacked plane is supposedly going to land here". As for the people who were portrayed as the "let's roll" heroes... that's the chilling part. This video demonstrated that there is no evidence to suggest a plane crashed in Pennsylvania, it also demonstrated that (at the time) an "unknown" plane with 200 people on board was landed at the Cleveland airport where all passengers were evacuated to a nearby NASA building. Was that Flight 93? If so... where are it's passengers? ____________ In conclusion, this whole thing is pretty confusing from a logical standpoint. I mean, say the whole video is true. The Bush administration is behind all of this, and 9/11 was one big military-coordinated psychological attack on our people. If they are willing to go that far to make a few bucks by staging a terrorist attack, and murdering our own citizens to cover-up a plane crash that doesn't add up, why wouldn't they take steps to ensure that incredibly well-made videos like this aren't released to the public? Why not murder the guys who were making this video? It just seems to me that if everything in this video were true, it would be impossible for us ever to learn about it, because the forces behind the attack in said video would never allow such a video to be made public. However, there is another side to this coin. This video brought up A LOT of good questions about things that does not add up about 9/11. My question is; if the government has nothing to hide, why aren't they calming down people like me with the evidence I would need to see in order to believe they had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11? For example, the video talks about how all of the buildings surrounding the Pentagon had surveillance footage of the attack, but moments after the attack, FBI officials stormed these buildings and confiscated all footage. If there is video out there that shows exactly what happened to the Pentagon, why doesn't the government release it for us to see? What do they have to hide? The fact that documentaries are made like this to show that the gov. might have been behind 9/11 makes me think that if the gov. isn't behind 9/11, then they would be releasing stuff that proves the guys who made this documentary are on crack. I hope someone else who gives as much of a shit about this 9/11 stuff other than me watches this video and shares some thoughts. Not to sound like a hippie, but after watching this video... I'm having a hard time believing that the government didn't have at least some role in the 9/11 attacks other than that which is common knowledge.
	Last edited by Ugly Bastard; 02-17-2006 at 01:52 PM.

02-15-2006, 02:45 AM	#703 (permalink)
tonguegina I like dirt. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,861 Internets: 2790	For those of you who loved Lazy Sunday and have lived in Muncie... http://www.break.com/index/lazymuncie.html

02-15-2006, 04:56 PM	#707 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Wow that was fucking great. I was proud too. I'm still leaving as soon as my lease is up... but still... nice video.

02-15-2006, 05:47 PM	#708 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	They said Ft. Wayne.

02-17-2006, 01:21 PM	#714 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Wow. I finished that and highly recommend everyone watch it. Even if you watch it and think the whole thing is complete bullshit, it's still worth it's value in images; plus it never hurts to open your eyes to other possibilities. A few specific things about it: 1. I don't like that it was narrated by someone who sounded like a high school emo kid who wears those anti-government patches on his backpack. 2. I was very impressed with how they supported their arguements. I sort of expected this to be one of those documentaries like Bowling for Columbine that is built around exaggerations and bullshit, but, after a first viewing, everything seemed pretty believable. It's hard to refute video evidence. 3. A lot of questions that I've always sort of subconsciously wondered, such as; "how did the people use their cell phones on the planes even though cell phones don't work on planes?", "how come the buildings collapsed when they were built to withstand a plane impact?", and "wtf is up with that Flight 93 thing that crashed in PN?" were all expanded on in this video. I'd like to hear someone who thinks this video is complete bullshit back up their arguement as to why. Because I've gotta be honest, after watching that, their thesis that the government was behind 9/11 makes a decent amount of sense.

02-18-2006, 01:37 PM	#717 (permalink)
SittinOnDubsWGW I make bad decisions. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Desert Posts: 3,018 Internets: 108015	That was the main reason that I posted the 9/11 post. I understand that it is old news, but the video was put together really well and I found it interesting. I had not seen a lot of the video footage before that is on this video and I found that to be pretty interesting. Just as you stated UB, the whole flight 93 thing was one of the things that I found interesting. That whole situation never really added up to me either.

02-18-2006, 01:49 PM	#718 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Yea, a day later I haven't stopped thinking about that video. I'm not swallowing everything it reported as the Biblical truth. I'm simply wanting to hear someone else's opinions on the video, because it seemed to me that they brought up several interesting points. The whole Pentagon thing bothers the shit out of me. The fact that in the video, they more or less proved that it was impossible that a commercial jet was responsible for the damage to that building; yet this is what is being reported by our government. I dunno... the whole thing just sorta bothers me...

02-18-2006, 06:52 PM	#719 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	http://www.break.com/index/britishiraq12.html Fuck that is the best video i have ever seen. they are children as well, even better.
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

02-18-2006, 09:48 PM	#720 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I don't find anything cool, funny, or commendable about that video at all. Kinda sick to be honest.

02-19-2006, 03:17 AM	#722 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Watching this video again to see how a second viewing sits with me. In doing so, I remembered two distinct flashes from my own personal thoughts on 9/11/01. They were: 1. That I was shocked the heros of Flight 93 were able to storm the cockpit and intentionally crash the plane. I was always amazed at how they were able to have the foresight that they were going to die anyway, yet in a moment of (what I would think would be) complete terror, have the power to overtake the hijackers and crash the plane in the middle of empty Pennsylvania. 2. I also remember being shocked to piss when the towers collapse. I distinctly remember telling my Mother, as we watched it live on TV, "wow! I didn't actually expect the buildings to collapse, did you?"

02-19-2006, 03:40 AM	#723 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	get a job you bum
	#YOLO

02-19-2006, 03:43 AM	#724 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Okay after finishing watching it a second time, I picked up on a lot more things about this video that I think are bullshit. The producers are just generally pretty quick to jump to conclusions over sketchy (at best) evidence. You can tell the people who made this video want to believe the conspiracy that the government is behind 9/11, so they're doing everything they can to slant the facts to make it look that way. I'm still glad I watched this, and still recommend others watch it. There are certainly some good points they bring up that I would love to have answered. The 3 things I would most like to know are: 1. Why did the towers collapse when they were built to withstand plane crashes? 2. Why does the damage to the Pentagon resemble nothing like what a 747 would do? 3. What is up with the mystery surrounding the Flight 93 crash in Pennsylvania, and why isn't that part of 9/11 discussed more openly? Blonde said he was going to watch it tonight. I'll be curious to hear his thoughts.

02-19-2006, 06:28 AM	#725 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	They got what they deserved, you must administer some kind of pain for throwing rocks. A nice slapping around, rubber bullets etc, it's not lethal force so the kids really are lucky they didn't get shot. Stones and shit are no joke, they hurt. If they wanna play like big boys they'll be treated like big boys, all there is to it.
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.