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f3lix · 07-20-2012, 09:13 AM

Repug, the main reason the economy was flourishing under Clinton is because he put in a whole bunch of policies that were destined to have a deadly response in the future, but make the current situation better (like FDR). The lending crash occurred because Clinton wanted every person to be able to own a home and forced banks to make risky lending to unqualified home owning prospects who never had a shot at success. A true president's legacy can't be defined in the present day, but must be observed when his policies have their consequences (good and bad) play out in the future. This is one aspect that liberals will never admit and just want to blame Bush for everything. Shit was prime to hit the fan because of Clinton's policies and Bush had to deal with 9/11 for years, instead of clean up Clinton's policy problems. Luckily our current congress is stopping much of Obama's horrific policies before they even start. We've seen what Obama can do (nothing to fix the economy) and luckily people are still voting against politicians who don't perform in office. Part of me is happy Obama was elected, because it woke up millions of dormant Americans and boosted liberty-minded folks into action. That part of me never expected a second term out of Obama, which would lead to a very, very destructive economic future for this country. For the record, Romney is just as bad, but in other ways.

Ironic Mustache · 07-20-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

Private schools are more the exception than the norm. Public school is what most people go through. I'm not sure how I feel about it though, since education in this country is a mess. It worries me because inequality is growing and when it reaches a boiling point things could get really bad. We need members of our society to be educated and productive and contribute. Otherwise they turn to welfare and gangs and have too many kids and fuck the whole system up. A good public education system can help curb a lot of that.

And California is among the messiest. Check this out:

Governor Brown considers cutting fucking science from high school curriculum!

(Okay not completely, but the second year of it.)

Important implication:

"The other problem is University of California and Cal State both require two years of science for admission. So if you're in a school where you can't take that second class, it'll be tough to get in. "

DDTempest · 07-21-2012, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

The lending crash occurred because Clinton wanted every person to be able to own a home and forced banks to make risky lending to unqualified home owning prospects who never had a shot at success.

You mean black people right? You're so racist

Beebs · 07-25-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

God I hope he gets re-elected just to shut you cunty bitches up.

How would that shut them up?

Repugnant Abomination · 07-26-2012, 02:10 AM

You can't just disappear for months at a time and then come back and make a sassy comment...Don't tease me like that.

f3lix · 07-26-2012, 07:15 AM

Repug lacking lots of answers lately.

Orgazmo · 07-26-2012, 10:04 AM

Democalypse 2012 - Do We Look Stupid? Don't Answer That Edition - Grammatical Gaffes - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 07/25/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

Ugly Bastard · 07-26-2012, 11:09 AM

That clip gets pretty great at the 6:00 mark.

f3lix · 07-26-2012, 11:52 AM

I wouldn't know. I'm in London, where I can't watch that video. To answer UB's derailing post in my Queen thread, FC is in NYC (follow the Travel thread, n00b). FC was also an amazing host for the one night I saw him. I'm staying at his flat and he has several roommates, all of whom are quite smart and interesting to talk with. The only Olympic activity right now is futbol group play, which just started (I'm about to head to a bar to watch) and are being played everywhere BUT London. I wanted to see this, but will not be traveling two hours (how the hell would I even get there, and I have no ticket) and have stayed put in the city. The opening ceremony tickets are going for $2,700, so I won't be going for that either. I spent the first 48 hours taking in the city and when I get a tick, I have to rid of it; that tick was posting about Queen.

f3lix · 07-26-2012, 11:55 AM

I should also point out that while FC can come across as a huge dick on nubblies, he's been a great and fun guy in person all three times I've been around him. Kremlin? I can't so much say, because he is ignoring that I'm in London.

thekremlin · 07-26-2012, 11:58 AM

I'm fantastic.

Beebs · 07-26-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

You can't just disappear for months at a time and then come back and make a sassy comment...Don't tease me like that.

I mean cunty bitches gonna bitch cuntily, regardless if their team is winning or not.

DJ FC · 07-26-2012, 05:46 PM

I really don't think anybody is taking Obama's speech out of context. I posted the whole thing now and I'm worried about it in any form. Deep down Obama has always meant this but he finally slipped up and said it.

Mr. Blonde · 07-26-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ FC

I really don't think anybody is taking Obama's speech out of context.

You're right, except the people who are taking it out of context wrongly. There are clearly two very defined sets of context here; those who agree with what he said at face value (which is correct) and those who think he's attacking business owners (which is incorrect).

Beebs · 07-26-2012, 10:09 PM

To me the issue is that it is contradictory with his idea of taxation as a whole.

Generally, the left in this country is all about progressive taxes, based on the ability to pay. This makes sense to a certain extent, it fails in others, but that's not the issue.

This speech, he seems to imply taxes should be similar to a user fee, which is based on benefits gained, and is a regressive tax in most cases.

If his "pay because you use it" idea is followed to it's logical conclusion, then the tax rates for the people he is talking about, "the rich" are going to go way down.

DJ FC · 07-27-2012, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

You're right, except the people who are taking it out of context wrongly. There are clearly two very defined sets of context here; those who agree with what he said at face value (which is correct) and those who think he's attacking business owners (which is incorrect).

I think he is attacking business owners Blonde. When the president of the USA slips this leftist rhetoric in a speech it's an attack on those who have by those who have not. And in America business owners have.

Saint DH · 07-27-2012, 07:20 AM

I wish I was taking it out of context, because quite frankly it's frightening to hear a president, who is probably going to be reelected, say this type of socialist propaganda on national television.

f3lix · 07-27-2012, 09:07 AM

Romney's campaign is going to bury him on this.

Ugly Bastard · 07-27-2012, 10:43 AM

Romney already made the exact same speech himself a while back (see: 6:00 mark of Daily Show clip Gaz posted somewhere).

Beebs · 07-27-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Romney already made the

exact same

speech himself a while back (see: 6:00 mark of Daily Show clip Gaz posted somewhere).

Fyp

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 07-28-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

You're right, except the people who are

taking it out of context wrongly.

There are clearly two very defined sets of context here; those who agree with what he said at face value (which is correct) and those who think he's attacking business owners (which is incorrect).

.

07-26-2012, 05:46 PM	#38 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	I really don't think anybody is taking Obama's speech out of context. I posted the whole thing now and I'm worried about it in any form. Deep down Obama has always meant this but he finally slipped up and said it.
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

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07-20-2012, 09:13 AM	#26 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Repug, the main reason the economy was flourishing under Clinton is because he put in a whole bunch of policies that were destined to have a deadly response in the future, but make the current situation better (like FDR). The lending crash occurred because Clinton wanted every person to be able to own a home and forced banks to make risky lending to unqualified home owning prospects who never had a shot at success. A true president's legacy can't be defined in the present day, but must be observed when his policies have their consequences (good and bad) play out in the future. This is one aspect that liberals will never admit and just want to blame Bush for everything. Shit was prime to hit the fan because of Clinton's policies and Bush had to deal with 9/11 for years, instead of clean up Clinton's policy problems. Luckily our current congress is stopping much of Obama's horrific policies before they even start. We've seen what Obama can do (nothing to fix the economy) and luckily people are still voting against politicians who don't perform in office. Part of me is happy Obama was elected, because it woke up millions of dormant Americans and boosted liberty-minded folks into action. That part of me never expected a second term out of Obama, which would lead to a very, very destructive economic future for this country. For the record, Romney is just as bad, but in other ways.

07-26-2012, 02:10 AM	#30 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	You can't just disappear for months at a time and then come back and make a sassy comment...Don't tease me like that.

07-26-2012, 07:15 AM	#31 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Repug lacking lots of answers lately.

07-26-2012, 10:04 AM	#32 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,732 Internets: 311447	Democalypse 2012 - Do We Look Stupid? Don't Answer That Edition - Grammatical Gaffes - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 07/25/12 - Video Clip \| Comedy Central

07-26-2012, 11:09 AM	#33 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	That clip gets pretty great at the 6:00 mark.

07-26-2012, 11:52 AM	#34 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I wouldn't know. I'm in London, where I can't watch that video. To answer UB's derailing post in my Queen thread, FC is in NYC (follow the Travel thread, n00b). FC was also an amazing host for the one night I saw him. I'm staying at his flat and he has several roommates, all of whom are quite smart and interesting to talk with. The only Olympic activity right now is futbol group play, which just started (I'm about to head to a bar to watch) and are being played everywhere BUT London. I wanted to see this, but will not be traveling two hours (how the hell would I even get there, and I have no ticket) and have stayed put in the city. The opening ceremony tickets are going for $2,700, so I won't be going for that either. I spent the first 48 hours taking in the city and when I get a tick, I have to rid of it; that tick was posting about Queen.

07-26-2012, 11:55 AM	#35 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I should also point out that while FC can come across as a huge dick on nubblies, he's been a great and fun guy in person all three times I've been around him. Kremlin? I can't so much say, because he is ignoring that I'm in London.

07-26-2012, 10:09 PM	#40 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	To me the issue is that it is contradictory with his idea of taxation as a whole. Generally, the left in this country is all about progressive taxes, based on the ability to pay. This makes sense to a certain extent, it fails in others, but that's not the issue. This speech, he seems to imply taxes should be similar to a user fee, which is based on benefits gained, and is a regressive tax in most cases. If his "pay because you use it" idea is followed to it's logical conclusion, then the tax rates for the people he is talking about, "the rich" are going to go way down.

07-27-2012, 07:20 AM	#42 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,149 Internets: 284753	I wish I was taking it out of context, because quite frankly it's frightening to hear a president, who is probably going to be reelected, say this type of socialist propaganda on national television.

07-27-2012, 09:07 AM	#43 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Romney's campaign is going to bury him on this.

07-27-2012, 10:43 AM	#44 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Romney already made the exact same speech himself a while back (see: 6:00 mark of Daily Show clip Gaz posted somewhere).