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THEINCREDIBLEdork · 08-20-2012, 10:33 PM

This game... is tits.

what is your steam name?

Ugly Bastard · 08-20-2012, 11:27 PM

Why are PS3 users still having to buy games on a disc? And how long until the obv happens and games are just downloaded?

Saint DH · 08-21-2012, 06:15 AM

You can already download a lot of games. It takes for-fucking-ever, though. Until the download time is greatly reduced, I don't see discs going away any time soon.

Ugly Bastard · 08-21-2012, 07:44 AM

How can it possibly take that long? How big are the games? I feel like you can download a couple GB file in what... an hour these days on a typical Internet connection? Faster than running to GameStop.

DJ FC · 08-21-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

How can it possibly take that long? How big are the games? I feel like you can download a couple GB file in what... an hour these days on a typical Internet connection? Faster than running to GameStop.

Maybe if you live in a first-world country like the United States.

DDTempest · 08-21-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Why are PS3 users still having to buy games on a disc? And how long until the obv happens and games are just downloaded?

I will always buy the disc ... always.

Dent · 08-21-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Why are PS3 users still having to buy games on a disc? And how long until the obv happens and games are just downloaded?

Ps4/next xbox will probably be the last generation with discs

Average US speed is 15Mbps(taken from Ookla which uses speedtest.net..not too accurate) so a 50gig blu-ray will take 10 hours.
When the average speed reaches towards the top end speed cable networks are offering (100/150Mbps over there?) and it takes 45 minutes to download a blu-ray the time should come.
with 100mbps speeds there's no reason why you couldn't stream the game and play it whilst downloading.

DDTempest · 08-21-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dent

Ps4/next xbox will probably be the last generation with discs

No matter how much people insist on shit like this, it will never happen ... people are in the business of making money, eliminating a 25% of your potential customer base is bad business when it comes to big-budget video game productions.

Dent · 08-21-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DDTempest

No matter how much people insist on shit like this, it will never happen ... people are in the business of making money, eliminating a 25% of your potential customer base is bad business when it comes to big-budget video game productions.

I think you're right for the next 5-10 years, and that the tech has been asked for a little early by those who assume the average speed is 100Mbps+.

Disc-less doesn't mean that there will be no way of going to a brick and mortar and purchasing the game, but maybe the brick and mortar would only need to be vending machine size and maybe use a SSD or something to transfer the games you want in no time.
Maybe it'll be some other way, but 'it will never happen' will be happening

Ugly Bastard · 08-21-2012, 10:02 AM

It makes me want to short shares of GameStop. Like how will they possibly still be in business a decade from now?

thekremlin · 08-21-2012, 10:08 AM

Where's the gamestop bid?

DDTempest · 08-21-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dent

I think you're right for the next 5-10 years, and that the tech has been asked for a little early by those who assume the average speed is 100Mbps+.

Disc-less doesn't mean that there will be no way of going to a brick and mortar and purchasing the game, but maybe the brick and mortar would only need to be vending machine size and maybe use a SSD or something to transfer the games you want in no time.
Maybe it'll be some other way, but 'it will never happen' will be happening

Game makers are unlikely to be fine with you walking away from a kiosk with a file on a USB drive because there is no way to keep it from just being duplicated and played on any system. Discs allow them to (somewhat) regulate that. Direct downloads also allow them to regulate that, some people will adopt while others will not.

Inversely, players like being able to take their games over to a friend's house. They like having a backup for their games, and not everyone has a high speed internet connection. As time progresses, the discrepancy between urban and rural internet speeds will only continue to grow, so it will be unrealistic to expect to sell download-only games to those people.

Dent · 08-21-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DDTempest

Game makers are unlikely to be fine with you walking away from a kiosk with a file on a USB drive because there is no way to keep it from just being duplicated and played on any system. Discs allow them to (somewhat) regulate that. Direct downloads also allow them to regulate that, some people will adopt while others will not.

Inversely, players like being able to take their games over to a friend's house. They like having a backup for their games, and not everyone has a high speed internet connection. As time progresses, the discrepancy between urban and rural internet speeds will only continue to grow, so it will be unrealistic to expect to sell download-only games to those people.

What protection does a disc offer to business that a USB can't? they will be able to put some sort of DRM on the USB/console/have to connect to the internet for 1 second to verify.

With cloud computing you don't need to take games over to a friends house, and it's all backed up anyway.
As for the rural market, it was only the other year that over 50% of the world now live in cities, that % will increase for the foreseeable future, the rural market is getting less important.
Satellite speeds are getting pretty quick, why wouldn't they be able to transfer data to rural areas? Ultra Mobile Broadband - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"In theory 672 Mbit/s is possible" - wow

a blu-ray drive is going to be seen as being cumbersome at some point, all that space can be used more efficiently.

Edit : anyone that wants to live deep inside a cave in the middle of nowhere in 10 years is welcome, but I don't want the costs to produce his ultra-ray disc to increase price if bought online

f3lix · 08-21-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Why are PS3 users still having to buy games on a disc? And how long until the obv happens and games are just downloaded?

I did download the game. It took 20 minutes.

Saint DH · 08-21-2012, 05:20 PM

Prob cause it's a shit game with shit graphics consisting of 4 multiplayer levels.

Beebs · 08-21-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Why are PS3 users still having to buy games on a disc? And how long until the obv happens and games are just downloaded?

Sometime last year-ish. I just downloaded the new NFS Shift 2, which is fucking great for the record.

Beebs · 08-21-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

It makes me want to short shares of GameStop. Like how will they possibly still be in business a decade from now?

I don't think they will be.

DJ FC · 08-22-2012, 12:50 AM

Discs (or physical media in general) aren't going anywhere anytime soon. I lived in an apartment for 6 months without internet access at all. Yes, these places still exist, and lots of the world simply doesn't have good internet access.

f3lix · 08-22-2012, 05:33 AM

A reminder that music is still be produced on vinyl.

Beebs · 08-23-2012, 12:08 AM

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A reminder that music is still be produced on vinyl.

It's still produced on fucking cassettes.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 08-23-2012, 12:56 AM

This is turning into the worst thread ever.

Saint DH · 08-23-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mistoffelees

This is turning into the worst thread ever.

And now it is.

Coincidence? Probably not since this thread is about a game that sucked when I was 15 and still sucks today.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 08-23-2012, 02:53 PM

Bro, story cool

Saint DH · 08-23-2012, 04:52 PM

Thanks for noticing how cool my story was. I appreciate that.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 08-23-2012, 06:16 PM

I figured all you needed was a little bit of attention.

Don't worry we didn't forget about you, guy.

08-20-2012, 10:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
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	#YOLO

08-22-2012, 12:50 AM	#43 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	Discs (or physical media in general) aren't going anywhere anytime soon. I lived in an apartment for 6 months without internet access at all. Yes, these places still exist, and lots of the world simply doesn't have good internet access.
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

08-23-2012, 12:56 AM	#46 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	This is turning into the worst thread ever.
	#YOLO

08-23-2012, 02:53 PM	#48 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	Bro, story cool
	#YOLO

08-23-2012, 06:16 PM	#50 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,352 Internets: 290966	I figured all you needed was a little bit of attention. Don't worry we didn't forget about you, guy.
	#YOLO

08-20-2012, 11:27 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Why are PS3 users still having to buy games on a disc? And how long until the obv happens and games are just downloaded?

08-21-2012, 06:15 AM	#28 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,148 Internets: 284753	You can already download a lot of games. It takes for-fucking-ever, though. Until the download time is greatly reduced, I don't see discs going away any time soon.

08-21-2012, 07:44 AM	#29 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	How can it possibly take that long? How big are the games? I feel like you can download a couple GB file in what... an hour these days on a typical Internet connection? Faster than running to GameStop.

08-21-2012, 10:02 AM	#35 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	It makes me want to short shares of GameStop. Like how will they possibly still be in business a decade from now?

08-21-2012, 05:20 PM	#40 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,148 Internets: 284753	Prob cause it's a shit game with shit graphics consisting of 4 multiplayer levels.

08-22-2012, 05:33 AM	#44 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	A reminder that music is still be produced on vinyl.

08-23-2012, 04:52 PM	#49 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,148 Internets: 284753	Thanks for noticing how cool my story was. I appreciate that.