Who is going to hell? An argument for the Bible, Religion and God.

[Repugnant Abomination]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

That's fine, I'm pretty done with having this conversation with you. Sorry but I've graduated from the whole "let's talk about god as if it's possible he exists" stage, and I've expressed elsewhere I'm pretty sad that you have regressed so much -- even though you like to play it as if "I'm just asking questions here. Just trying to discuss theology" as if you aren't CLEARLY starting to come around to fully (if you haven't already) accepting a deity exists.

Philosophy in general? Fuck yes, I love having those talks with you, particularly because you are so knowledgeable on the subject, even though we disagree. Mind you I have never taken a single philosophy class in my life, so not only am I late to the game but have just been building a solid foundation. Philosophy is the next step after coming to a pretty solid conclusion on religion, particularly one siding with atheism, and will be with us for all of humankind's existence.

That being said, I am pretty firm in the stance that no philosophical or theological talk will ever sway me to turn to religion. I'm set, bro. Come at me when you have evidence and then we can talk. I'm not militant anymore. There is absolutely nothing theists can provide (other than verifiable, scientific evidence) that I can even look at and not see it's nonsense. Call that close-minded if it makes you feel better. But in my view, the very definition of close-mindedness is turning to attractive ideas with spectacular claims but zero evidence.

Am I still going to read religious works and explore religion? Am I going to continue to marvel at the human need to believe in nonsense? Of course.

Am I going to subscribe to any of these beliefs without solid, physical evidence? Of course not.

(And of course, even if the Christian god or Hindu gods or whatever it is you think is the "real" one these days, DID exist, and proved it -- I'd spit on their feet and gladly burn. I'd rather die than bend my knee and prostrate for anything/one -- ethereal or mortal.)

That's all well and good I suppose. I didn't think I could change your mind, and whether you believe it or not my mind isn't completely changed or set firmly either which way. I just don't agree with your materialist point of view; science doesn't have the tools to deal with all of reality, because not all of reality is measurable in the empirical sense.