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05-06-2003, 12:51 AM
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i recently had a conversation with someone who has publicly admitted their name on nubblies. they were complaining because they made a post on our site that nobody agreed with. so, being mad everyone hates him, he told me to take them off. i as told by another senior member of Nubblies to post this, so that it be brought into everyones eyes. so here is the conversation, please tell me(the_butcher) whether you agree with on this matter by replying:
kevin: look [the_butcher]... I'm done with agruing with anyone about this... this has gone way too far, I'm sick of it, I didn't think things would be like they are now... I wish I never posted it... that post is how I feel, my opinion... and if people want to cuss me out and give me a hard time... I guess I can't do much about it, after mayday I'll be gone out of the Warsaw scene, no one will have to hear from me again, I just hope this stupid thing will just end... I wish you would post a message to settle this or something, you know how I feel, I know how you feel... sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't it happens... the_butcher: if you dont like these things to happen...then dont post in the beginning...keep your opinion to yourself... you knew this would happen...it hapened with the punk blows thread too kevin: TAKE THOSE MESSAGES OFF THAT BOARD, THERE IS A LINE THAT HAS BEEN CROSSED BETWEEN ME AND EVEYONE ELSE AND IT NEEDS TO STOP. the_butcher: no you knew that it would cause problems...jstu like you "punk blows" thread if you didnt wnat them to get out of control...you shouldnt have posted them in the first place people want to post their opinions...thats what the board is there for. im not going to take that freedom away from them. kevin: YOU ARE THE BIGGEST JACKASS I HAVE EVER MET. the_butcher: why? becuase i let people have their opinions? instead of shoving down their throats the fact that you "their" music sucks? kevin: its just a bunch of nonsense... this is STUPID. I can't even express in words how STUPID this is. kevin: one post... I posted my thoughts... you and your punk people are fags. the_butcher: kevin, i seem to recall YOU being into punk not too long ago...and what? now that you dont like it anymore, its instantly the shittiest music ever? no, THAT is somethign a fag would do you claim you dont care what we think? then why do you continue to go to our site and get upset that people make fun of you? kevin: its called I CHANGED for the better, I'd rather not communicate with you ever anymore... bye. the_butcher: haha you amuse me kevin: its called I think you are a jerk, your not my friend, I want you to stop talking to me... the_butcher: ha, whatever you say im a jerk because im accepting of all types of music...whatever now as you can obviously see...somone is complaining to me, about something that they started...how is this my fault/responsibility? it's not. so fuck off. www.geocities.com/athousandseasons |
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05-06-2003, 12:59 AM
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Kevin, I think your efforts would be better spent trying to tone down your unnecessary animosity.
Honestly, I have hated a lot of people in the punk scene, just for being jerks, but that's no reason to slander the music. If you don't like the music then you may as well just ignore it, complaining about it isn't going to solve anything (if anything it will just bring unwanted controversy - so why complain?) regardless, people will still listen to it and enjoy it. |
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05-06-2003, 01:50 AM
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Hey, by the way everyone, www.geocities.com/athousandseasons
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05-06-2003, 12:01 PM
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I've been reading all these posts that have been made about me from this board, ATS, and the Stealing September board... The post that I posted on the nubblies forum was a post of my opinion, I knew this post would make some people upset. I knew some would agree. The post that "The Butcher" posted about me saying I wish I would have never posted that message is true, I said it... but he didn't get the message that also was saying that I changed my mind, and it really was something I wanted to post. I wanted to post how I felt, even though I knew some wouldn't agree. I thought people would be mature enough to post intelligent messages saying how they think I'm wrong... I really haven't seen that. I've seen the lets hate Kevin messages. There's a difference between right and wrong... me posting that message was not wrong, but people talking shit about me is wrong. Getting threatened is wrong. Its not the right way to handle things, and it just goes to show what kind of people you really are. I'm not a kind of person that goes around "bashing" everyone, people who are close to me know that. I'm not a "guitar god"... people who know me well know that I don't think I'm "all that" I'm not, I'm just upset with the way things are now because I really care about music and I thought I'd post what I felt about what's happening... I'm sorry if your offended... but you people are the ones who keep replying and replying about this whole post. Its not worth it, if you don't agree I respect that. I don't respect people who post stupid, useless messages about how they hate The Ivy League or me... its ridiculous. The Ivy League wasn't part of that post. It was all me. People need to grow up, it shows how stupid they are. I do appreciate people who are posting in a respectful manner. If your upset with me, I'm sorry, its just my opinion and you've got to understand that... you can all hate me if you want, its not like I can stop you. I just think everyone should respect how I feel, and if you don't agree... don't, but posting messages like you are is wrong and its really upsetting to read them. Please just try to understand where I'm coming from, that's all. Take Care.
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05-07-2003, 01:56 AM
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hey..I don't give a fuck either, it's all gay how musickid keeps dragging this out longer and longer.
I think the score is now.... -Give a fuck about this shit-0 -Don't give a fuck about this shit-2 musickid, can't you tell when your opinion is not wanted??? |
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05-07-2003, 12:03 PM
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Sorry, but when did this become a place where people weren't allowed to present their opinions? Sure, musickid's opinion might not be a popular one, but he has every right to post anything he wants.
And really, why did the_butcher need to post this conversation? Seriously, this really had nothing to do with Nubblies at all....it was all about the threats that people have been directing towards Kevin on the thousand seasons message board....and yet, the_butcher still felt that it was relevant to post this here? It's just bringing up shit that everyone is already sick and tired of. |
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05-07-2003, 01:42 PM
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The sake of humor alone seems enough reason to post the conversation.
I think the butcher wanted to publically show that, despite musickid's allegations, he has nothing to do with musickid's getting bashed for what he says, and to show that, sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just be prepared to defend it and take shit for it... |
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05-07-2003, 06:32 PM
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Actually Titan, I know that the_butcher had every right to post this.
I was replying to long-since-forgotten's post stating: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> musickid, can't you tell when your opinion is not wanted??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That's why I said that. And my reasoning that was directed at the_butcher....yeah, he has every right to post that here, but why? Most Nubblites had nothing to do with this argument, had no idea about the extent of people bashing Kevin, just because most of the real bashing came from the thousand seasons message board. Sure, he had alot of detractors here, but most of the shit talking came from punkers and fans on the thousand seasons message board, and I think that's where it should have been taken care of. And it was. I think that's where it should have stayed. No one here was blaming the_butcher for causing Kevin any more grief. We all know that Kevin knew the consequences when writing his opinion. Pliedes, as you can see from all the posts that preceded yours, not many people caught the humor that came from this topic. We're all just sick of this whole fucking debacle. [This message has been edited by Combat Chuck (edited May 07, 2003).] |
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05-08-2003, 01:51 PM
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There is plenty of validation for making the post about the conversation between the_butcher and kevin. You say many of the nubblites have nohting to do with it? You say it was all on the ATS board?
If you'll remember correctly, the hate-attracting posts by Kevin were started on nubblies here Then he procceeded to further all this stuff by starting this topic here here and he also made a post in the WCHS BotB thread All of the bashing on the ATS board was just overflow from this board. |
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