Racism

[George Sherman]

Originally posted by AlphaMale:
White men ARE the dominant race, nt because out skin color, but because this is OUR contry

who discoverd the united stated? Europeans..

Who colonized the united states? Europeans

If you goto africa then what do you have, black leaders. The only reason black people are here in the first place is... (well, do i really have to say)

But you want reaparations for slavery?, how about this
WE LET YOU LIVE IN OUR COUNTRY, and don't ship you back home to starve to death, i think that was a nice move, even tough it WOULD have costed too much to send them back....
But anyway, Whatever race is smarter will always be more dominant.

anky, you said that there are more white people on welfare than black, well it's only the white trash that is acting black, and not even all of them.

Japaness Buisnessmen are also dominant in some feilds in the united states....

Hold on a secon dueschbag, who discovered this country, we don't fucking know. What we do know is that the Europeans STOLE it from the Native Americans, the NATIVE AMERICANS. This was their country way before any European ever got here, and when the europeans did get here all they did was steal and lie to the native americans. That fucking pisses me off so fucking much when some ignorant fucking prick says that the europeans discovered this fucking country, THEY DIDN'T DISCOVER SHIT IF THERE WAS ALREADY PEOPLE LIVING HERE. The truth is the "white man" stole this country from the native americans. But what can I say about that, there nothing you can do about it now. Just get that straight though.

[VOL]

It is possible to discover something that has already been seen. For example, I'm sure that at one time or another you, George Sherman, had "discovered" some loose change and you may have even claimed it as yours. That change was already discovered by someone else, you just happened to discover it as well.

[ December 24, 2004, 09:10 AM: Message edited by: VOL ]

[silver and cold]

hey vol, i think we all knew what he meant, we didnt need your smart ass comment!

i agree with sherman. and coming from a back ground of many differnt nationalities, just like most of this god-forsaken country, no one has room to talk...

the sad part is, the original race of this country was killed to make room for abunch of self-centered racist little bitchs, that now think they are the one and only aloud to be here..

here is a wonderful idea,(only directed to the racist assholes) why don't YOU go back to where YOU came from.

[AlphaMale]

Talk is cheap , we cheated america from the natives fair and square. it's not our fault they weren't advanced enough to fight back. knowledge is power, and the white men where more advanced than the natives. Besides, europe was getting boring...

[ProfessorNumber]

Originally posted by silver and cold:
hey vol, i think we all knew what he meant, we didnt need your smart ass comment!

i agree with sherman. and coming from a back ground of many differnt nationalities, just like most of this god-forsaken country, no one has room to talk...

the sad part is, the original race of this country was killed to make room for abunch of self-centered racist little bitchs, that now think they are the one and only aloud to be here..

here is a wonderful idea,(only directed to the racist assholes) why don't YOU go back to where YOU came from.

Oh shut the fuck up you stupid cum slut. Jesus fucking christ. We killed the Indians because we were a greedy land hungry people. Big Fucking deal. Darwin would love to smack you, since you seem to not realize that the world has always revolved around survival of the fittest. We were technologically superior to the Indians and therefore they became obsolete (died).

I hate immigrants because they are changing America; for the worse. They bring many many young kids who do not recieve enough attention, nor do they recieve a proper upbringing, and as a result they end up in gangs or in jail. Given, this is a stereotype at it's finest, but there is more than just a measure of truth to it.

[ProfessorNumber]

When immigrants came to America during its infancy, they brought with them certain skills that helped America grow. Some were farmers, some were iron smiths, etc...

However, in the modern era most of today's immigrants bring little else with them aside from their propensity for squalor and crime.

Fuck all spics, I wish Jesus fucking christ himself would kill them all. You included Anky.

Merry Fucking Christmas.

[George Sherman]

I think its sad how ignorant some people are. I'm just kinda talking in general here, nothing specific. The point I was trying to make is that white europeans or whatever you want to call them talk like this is their country and it always has been. But its just not true, there were other people living here when Columbus happened upon, NOT DISCOVERED, America.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

For the first time in recorded history my family lineage is being tainted by blood that is not white mans blood. I just found out today my cousin pregnant with an illegitimate child with with an Arab dude from the United Emirates. I don't really have any negative feelings toward this... It will just be very amusing to watch all the drama, seemens how my grandparents are racist to the extreme. There is some sick joy I experience when I watch other people argue about racial issues as I have experienced while reading this thread. All this aside my cousin will probably be disowned from the family. Its amazing how race can tear families and people apart. Which brings up something I've always thought about. Why is it that people hate people of other races? What makes them treat other races poorly? People don't beat other species of mammals up because they hate them, so it doesnt make sense why people become violence stems from racial prejudice.
Think about this... Without saying who is better or worse... Is it really hard to believe that races are more naturally adept at some physical and cognitive tasks than others? Asians have always been very dedicated and hard working throughout history. Black people may have special things in their legs that allow them to jump higher and run faster. Face it there are many differences than just skin color within different races. Asians have squinty eyes mexicans are short, italians have greasier hair, lots of little things... Anyways so is it that hard to believe there maybe other small genetic differences that also lead to small differences in cognitive abilities? --just a thought, black people honestly do score 15 pts lower on IQ tests, read it in my psych text book.
But the point i'm getting to is why these differences lead to hate. Most people don't hate monkeys or blue footed boobies, just a thought.

[ProfessorNumber]

I'll explain why I feel a hatred towards certain races in general.

Spics. I have yet to make a business deal with a spic in which they do not try to fuck me over. EVERY single mexi-spic that has either tried to buy or sell me drugs has attempted or succeeded in ripping me off. So why should I think kindly of them? Sure, I'm over-generalizing here, I know. But also, you can't forget that spics are constantly in trouble, especially in warsaw. I mean, who can forget when there was that huge fight at the Center lake park area between all the fucking spics. I don't want that in my community. Second, a lot of the spics that work where I do (car wash), are in gangs. Yes, gangs. As in they DO carry guns and drive old shitty Impalas.

How can I have even a modicum of respect for a race such as spics when all I've seen them do is hurt each other, cause gang violence, sell hard drugs, etc. My hatred is not an irrational belief based upon the popular trend of Warsaw to hate spics. I hate them because of my experience with them.

Then there are Indians. They come to America and get menial jobs at food places and gas stations. They work hard, really hard, and push their kids to do well in school. I respect this work ethic... BUT, I've cussed out over 7 Indian employees in the past month. Why? They are fucking sticklers for rules. They card me everytime I try to buy cigarettes for my friends, EVEN if I just was in the store 2 minutes ago. Once, a fucking sand nigger asked me what my birthday was, as if I had a fake 18 year old ID. Who the fuck buys an 18 year old ID?? So I called him a "fucking douche". Then, to make matters worse I happened to have a full Subway stamp card so I went into a local subway expecting a delicious and free sub. What does the Indian douche working there tell me? "Sorry, we cannot accept this, it did not come from this store". Now, me being the Subway fiend that I am, I knew this just wasn't the case. I had gotten the card from an ex-subway employee who explained that I could use it anywhere. So, I did what any normal person would do in that situation and I told the Indian to fuck off (all of them), and that I wished their piece of shit store would burn to the ground. Then I flipped him off with both hands and walked out still flipping them off. Then I drove past honking while everyone in the car flipped them off. I honestly wanted to brick that stores window, but I will admit Im too much of a pussy to do that.

Anyway, the point I'm getting at is that Indian sand niggers just don't know how the world works. It pisses me off because if that fucking sand nigger had just given me my sandwich, nothing would have been taken from him! His paycheck will be the same whether he gives me that sub or not, so why the fuck not?? when someone at my place of work asks me to do something extra for their car that they didn't pay for, I usually do it (assuming I know I'm going to get a good tip, and that the person is cool). In other words, I lose nothing by helping someone out, and they gain. No indians seem to grasp this concept. If he had given me that free sub, its not like his boss would have busted in and started screaming at him; he had nothing to lose and yet he still wouldn't do it.

That is why I hate Indians and Spics. In my next addition I'll explain why I don't like niggers that much.

Oh yeah, Merry Fucking Christmas.

[AlphaMale]

Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by silver and cold:
hey vol, i think we all knew what he meant, we didnt need your smart ass comment!

i agree with sherman. and coming from a back ground of many differnt nationalities, just like most of this god-forsaken country, no one has room to talk...

the sad part is, the original race of this country was killed to make room for abunch of self-centered racist little bitchs, that now think they are the one and only aloud to be here..

here is a wonderful idea,(only directed to the racist assholes) why don't YOU go back to where YOU came from.

Oh shut the fuck up you stupid cum slut. Jesus fucking christ. We killed the Indians because we were a greedy land hungry people. Big Fucking deal. Darwin would love to smack you, since you seem to not realize that the world has always revolved around survival of the fittest. We were technologically superior to the Indians and therefore they became obsolete (died).

I hate immigrants because they are changing America; for the worse. They bring many many young kids who do not recieve enough attention, nor do they recieve a proper upbringing, and as a result they end up in gangs or in jail. Given, this is a stereotype at it's finest, but there is more than just a measure of truth to it.</font>[/quote]I agree with you're first part, but how many immagrants that are coming to america now have kids that don't get enough attention, most of the people that i know that cam from other countries do it for the very reason that their kids DO get enough attention ad a propper upbringing...

can you give an example of what you mean by that?

[ProfessorNumber]

I agree with you're first part, but how many immagrants that are coming to america now have kids that don't get enough attention, most of the people that i know that cam from other countries do it for the very reason that their kids DO get enough attention ad a propper upbringing...

can you give an example of what you mean by that?

Hmm, You raise an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. I suppose what I mean is that when a kid grows up selling drugs, getting in fights, and failing school, it makes me wonder whether their upbringing was "proper". Yes, I'm using the same stereotype again, but it seems as though every mexican I know sells drugs and is involved in crime. Not only that, but their houses (or at least the ones I've seen) are pure filth. These people live in their own pathetic squalor. I know they can't afford much, but it literally costs nothing to pick up garbage and throw it away, or fold a few clothes now and then.

So, while you do have a good point, I think it's fair to say that this might be a case of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". In other words, the parents might have wanted to give their kids a better life, but did they really?

[ December 25, 2004, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: ProfessorNumber ]

[George Sherman]

On the contrary, I think that some of their parents wanted their kids to have a better life. But in my experience buying the hard drugs from the Mexicans, I have found that it is the parents usually buying the bulk amount and rationing it to their kids to sell. I'm not saying this is the case with every mexican, but just the ones that I have bought hard drugs from.

[silver and cold]

So with this survival of the fittest... If in the 9/11 bombings or what not, its ok, if we get taken over and killed...
hmmm i see

[George Sherman]

ya see thats not the same thing as with the Native Americans. We used the Native Americans at first. They taught us how to grow crops in american soil and all that kinda shit, then as soon as we had learned all we could from them, we started lying, cheating, and killing them. We forced them onto reservations, when infact the whole country belonged to them. It really is disgusting.

[silver and cold]

It is, especially since my father's half of the family is native american...not full blooded...but a few are.

[AlphaMale]

Originally posted by George Sherman:
ya see thats not the same thing as with the Native Americans. We used the Native Americans at first. They taught us how to grow crops in american soil and all that kinda shit, then as soon as we had learned all we could from them, we started lying, cheating, and killing them. We forced them onto reservations, when infact the whole country belonged to them. It really is disgusting.

I actauly wanted to respong to both of your last posts... The first one, that mexican families have parents that buy the bulk then give to their kids to sell. This IS true, my freind "M" bought from his dad to sell to us. But you will only realy notice this if the only mexican people that you know are drug dealers, because most people know that mexicans have really close families. But if you are only dealing with people that do drugs, then you WILL have bad opinions about their stereotypes. And your latest post... You find it disgusting that White man herded the natives onto resevations, i find it disgusting that they let themselves be treated that way, it shows a general lack of self respect... but i'm just ofering a point of veiw which i could also dispute.. just to bring up the issue....

[Zanny]

Race is a hard issue, and i really dont have much to say on it except that alphamale is one of the dumbest motherfucker on this message board. Hears an idea how about you stop preaching about this and that because its quite apparent to all that you dont have any idea about anything you talk about. Think before you speak you stupid fuck.

[Zanny]

And on top of what i just said if you had any education on history you would know that africa can boast to many great nations and leaders over the course of the last 2000 years. But seeing how you are just an ignorant bastard it would be hard for you to know that.

[George Sherman]

That was nice, learn how to edit a post.

[St. Anky]

Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I agree with you're first part, but how many immagrants that are coming to america now have kids that don't get enough attention, most of the people that i know that cam from other countries do it for the very reason that their kids DO get enough attention ad a propper upbringing...

can you give an example of what you mean by that?

Hmm, You raise an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. I suppose what I mean is that when a kid grows up selling drugs, getting in fights, and failing school, it makes me wonder whether their upbringing was "proper". Yes, I'm using the same stereotype again, but it seems as though every mexican I know sells drugs and is involved in crime. Not only that, but their houses (or at least the ones I've seen) are pure filth. These people live in their own pathetic squalor. I know they can't afford much, but it literally costs nothing to pick up garbage and throw it away, or fold a few clothes now and then.

So, while you do have a good point, I think it's fair to say that this might be a case of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". In other words, the parents might have wanted to give their kids a better life, but did they really?</font>[/quote]Sorry I haven't been on more often to respond to all of your bullshit professor number. I've been busy working, you know, selling drugs to white kids, getting into gang fights, and filthying my house; you know, the usual stuff I strive for everyday. After reading all this shit you've been posting I'm quite saddened to have realized just how fucking retarded you are. It is one thing, of course, to have opinions about important things such as politics and money. But I must say it is very much quite another thing to over-generalize within those convictions and create an overly-biased and distorted argument.

Let's see here now. You were saying something about a bunch of mexicans fighting at center lake park in Warsaw right? Alright, I think I heard about that. I can't say I remember when it was, nor was I there when it happened. What I can say to you though in regards to this subject is that you have very limited reasoning skills. You see, by looking at only the negative things that hispanic or mexican people do within "your" community, you lost sight of all the good they do. Now, having lived in WArsaw for quite some time now, I believe I have just as much of a right to pass judgement upon the people within the community and their actions; as you have just done. Firstly though, I think I'll follow in your footsteps and first bitch about something in order to then follow up with evidence to support my claim. Hmmm. Alright, how about all the racist white cops in Warsaw. Especially those in Winona Lake. I get pulled over for going 39 in a 35 and without question get a 90 dollar ticket. I've been pulled over twice with claims that I had a "suspicious" looking vehicle and in both cases was asked to pop my trunk and reveal the inside of my trunk. (it was empty of course and they didn't slap anything on me but I knew the whole thing was bullshit.) In another instance, I've witnessed a friend of my father's, a mexican guy, being harassed outside his home by two cops who were searching his car. When the guy started shivering of cold, the cops then told him that if he had a problem with the temperature, he should go back to Mexico. The guy then told the officers to suck his dick and they then proceeded to threaten with arrest if he didn't keep quiet. The cops didn't find anything and drove off. But the fact remains this man was harassed. So there's my complaint, the white cops in Warsaw are racist. Now, following Number's footsteps, I will then proceed to make my over-generalization. Since it is apparent to me that cops in Warsaw are racist and do not like me because I'm mexican, I am able to then reason that if the cops, the upholders of justice within any community, do not like me; it is probable that most of the people within the community are racist and they will not like me because I am not white. It seems, they don't like anything that is not white. Now, my statement is laid out with supporting evidence and vindication. However, the only problem I see is that I know many of the people in the community. In fact, a majority of my best friends from Warsaw are white and don't seem to be racist at all. In fact, I have many times heard them say that they are in no way prejudiced against any race or minority group.

What am I to do with conflicting evidence? Cops, a symbol of justice, have become affiliated with racist demeanor. Shouldn't that mean that the rest of the community from which they are employed by is racist as well? Well, if I was narrow minded enough to believe that I'd be stuck. Stuck, just like Numbers here. The truth is, you can't generalize too much anymore. Well, you could, but the chances of you being wrong are very good. And, of course, if you like being wrong then go right ahead. Be a dumbass. But my point remains that generalizing any behaviour on a certain ethnic group, especially one as large and diversified as the hispanic population, is not only a display of narrow-minded thought, but is probably very innacurate.

Now, you could say that the mexicans YOU know do such and such. But then again, you'd only be talking about the ones you know. And, since you seem to have such a negative view towards minority groups from the get go, I'd have to say your opinion would be very biased since you seem to have already made a judgement prior to weighing your understanding.

Now, going on to your problems with those of Indian descent, I must say it is quite a hypocritical statment. You say that you dislike those of Indian descent because they are, how did you say it? Oh yeah, quite the sticklers for the rules isn't that how you said it? Well, it seems you enjoy breaking or bending the rules since you buy cigarettes for your underage friends, but you dislike when a group of minorities break the law. So, in your case, it is ok for you to buy underage teens cigarettes, but it is unruly for drug dealers to sell drugs. I see. Now, I'm not in any way comparing cigarettes to drugs (even though cigarettes ARE a drug) and I'm not saying that selling cigarettes are as bad as selling drugs. My point is based on the actions of doing so. It is against the law to sell cigarattes to minors and against the law for minors to have cigarettes just as it is agasint the law for someone to distribute illegal substances. Both are breaking the law. Hell, both drugs are killing people. Number, how you justify these actions is beside me. Hell, your entire reasoning is beside me. I will say this though, anyone who believes that they are given some divine right over another person is full of shit. I'm sorry, but you're not special. No one is. No one is of any purebred race so it is therein pointless to define race. And, if it is to be done, if people are going to be classified by their race, then it should be done thoroughly. And when I say thorough I mean, every single relative must be traced back to the origins of man and everytime a relative of one ethnic group has bred with a relative of another ethnic group, their offspring must be given the label of both groups. For instance, if you by any chance Professor Number once had German ancestors, then we should include the ancestors of your ancestors who were probably of asiatic descent since the goths of germania were indirect descendents of the mongolian empire. And, one must also include all the possible inter-marriage of ethnic groups during the dark ages and feudal period. And it keeps going on and on until you realize that the spectrum has become so broad that there is no such thing as a race or certain "breed" of human being. The only way to accurately incorporate the entirety of the human race is to simplify the term race.

And this is where we get to color. Yes, god almighty, color. This guy's black, this guy's yellow, I'm brown and you're white. Hmmm... but that's not completely accurate because two white people are two different tones of white and black people are different tones of black, well shit, not even black but brown. Well shit, what do we do? Ah, I know! Lets make it even more complex, lets incorporate tones. You're bronze, you're light brown, you're sienna, you're tangerine-tan, you're peach colored... How long will this go on? Will we have conflict with each other over hair color? eye color? Will we discriminate against those with bushy eyebrows? What about short people, will we hate against them too?

When will people come to understand that we're all the same? Just a different side of the pyramid.

[silver and cold]

Yes, thats whats's wrong with people, they don't understand.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

Nice Post Anky, congratulations you have recieved the Incredible Seal of Approval!!!

[Saint DH]

I agree with both Professor and Anky. Cops and Mexicans both suck cock!

[George Sherman]

ya, I think anyone would agree with that.

[Rebel Nation]

fuck niggers, spics, an anything else that aint white