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rocksteady · 10-16-2002, 10:35 PM

Before I get started, I feel the need to set my parameters after viewing just a bit of the content found on this forum for this piece of mind I wish to display. I apologize to those who are unable to muster interest from this solemn uncertainty of the human mind and life. I would like to kindly ask that those of you who do not contain the capacity to avoid replying with vulgarity in a manner that dipicts myslef as a whining insecure waste of life to refrain from taking this approach. Simply ignore the words that my fingers insist scripting into organized thoughts that will shortly be posted ofr everyone to view. Its almost as if I am using this as an outlet, allowing those who trully know nothing of me to take a small peak inside.
What steps should be taken when someone has lost all hopes of grasping even the slightes touch of happiness? What if your known by everyone, yet by no one? You have an image, an identity, and friends, yet they exist in a world that possesses not even a single benefit to your life. On the contrary, there are benefits; however, all would be given up in the pursuit of anything greater, a feeling of love, happiness, contentment. An eminent feeling for quite some time yet intelligence reminds you its only a fraction of you life, that things will in due time take a turn. What if you know for a fact your stuck, exactly that, stuck, for a time that will eat away until your mind is empty. Fruitless if you will, a fruitless mind, almost as if there is no motivation to be anyone or anything eventually leading to exactly that. Its the last thing I want, yet inevitable.

I am lost.

How long must you wait for it? Am I am the only one that feels this way? I thought I would be prepared for these moments in my life. I was fully aware that they would occur, everyone said it would not be easy, but no one said it would be this hard.
So many more views to illustrate, yet i have already wasted my time as well as yours. Maybe more will be brought forth as I am shown what interest this brings. Again, I understand if this forum was not designed for such discussion, and I apologize for even attempting if that is the case.

Oddly enough, as I see many of your faces everyday as life continues I will hope that no one recognizes the owner of these thoughts when in reality I would do anything to show all of you I am nowhere near what you may think. The front is to keep the image, even if its unwanted and continually deteriorating. When I work out where to draw the line, your guess is as good as mine.

-rocksteady

BigDongedHoe · 10-16-2002, 11:40 PM

When I see a post like this I would normally react to it in a harsh or vulgar way. A way you would probably take offense to. But seeing as you are a WCHS student (i'm assuming) and that you could possibly be one of my friends I will tend to do the latter and respond to the best of my abilities.

I see people type stuff like this all the time. How there lost and looking for something but they don't know what, for some it may be a girlfriend, a purpose in life, a way to gain respect, or just a plain feeling of acceptance. In my 3 1/4 years in high school I went from the freshman would do anything just to be someones friend. To try and be popular and get the girl, you know the whole deal be fake and not yourself to obtain ones friendship. I've gone from being like that my freshman year, searching if you wish to call it that. To a Senior now who is still searching but now does it with the right motives. The best quote I have ever heard from somebody is "Fuck dude, it's high school." Although this quote may seem inappropriate for such a serious topic, I will explain how incredibly appropriate it actually is. High school is 4 years of life your supposed to enjoy and cherrish, however when you don't have a feeling of acceptance you can never really cherrish the moment. I don't how to get this out or put it into words but find a couple close friends and hang on to them. I myself now like having a close knit group of guys that I spend the night with and hang out with outside of school and that's it. I don't want the big crowd of 20 guys to like me that we all hang out every once in a while. High School is supposed to be fun, so what if you don't have the popularity or so what if you don't have all the friends you want. 5 Years from now when you possibly meet your wife is she gonna care about how popular you were in high school or how many friends you had?? I would tend to think these are things she won't pay attention to or care about. Talking about WCHS as this sametime the girls here are not normal girls. I have dated a girl from Wawasee and hung out with many girls from that school and others for that matter. The girls from the other schools don't care about your popularity or your friends or anything like that. They like to hang out and be with you for you, and it's the same from me to them. The halls of WCHS consists of stuck up BITCHES (yes BITCHES) who are only concerned about there image and what guy will make them look the best to be with. Although there are a few girls at our school who are not that way (i apologize if you took offense to the comment above) those are few and far between. I guess what I'm saying is that these 4 years (for you probably 3/4 left) are 4 years outta your life that are not gonna matter 5,10,15,20 years down the road. It will be sad to leave WCHS this year and go to college next year. Although all of you I won't see everyday and although we wont' be as good of friends as we used to be. We can always look back at Nubblies as a source of communication, a source of high schoolers being us.

Rocksteady maybe what I'm trying to tell you, is that we are 17 and 18 year old KIDS who are just trying to have some fun, layback have fun and stop searching because "fuck dude, it's high school." There will be bigger and better things in the future this i promise you sir. As far as acceptance goes, you are accepted into a family, yes I call it a family, a family of Nubblies.Com!

To each and all this is a different side of BigDongedHoe I know, but fuck we all have something inside of us and all of us are people, just guys in high school, college, and some in nothing at all having a good time.

"Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive"
-Van Wilder

10-17-2002, 12:18 AM

I must say, rocksteady, way to pour you heart out. And bigdongedhoe, how true your words honestly are. I agree with WCHS having a bunch of stuck up bitches... "Fuck dude, it's high school"... That is probaly the most honest quote i have heard in a long time, and it makes oh so much sense. After we all graduate, nothing that went on in the halls of WCHS will matter at all. Some poeple just need to stop worry and do something for themselves every once in a while. If what your doing isn't making you happy, why the hell are you doing it?

Freak of the Forest · 10-17-2002, 01:07 AM

And thus, once you look under the magnifying glass of this philosophy you see... well shit... if high school doesn't matter... then why would college... and... why would life after college... and why would life after marriage or a career or whatever matter. so you pull out the gun and get ready to clock yourself. what you realize is that you're about to do is the equivalent of slowly consuming every - good AND bad AND every adjective in between - possibility in between and then proceeding to vomit them up everywhere, for everyone to witness and for some, do the same. a chain reaction of 'realization' that nothing matters. but what you /actually/ realize is that the only time that you waste in your life is the time spent not living. physically and metaphorically. why give up the opportunities for experience that you have now, for a risk, a risk that you won't have anymore, will have bad ones, good ones, or just a bunch more like in this life. so aside from the off-topic analysis on suicide... the same goes for wasting your life on over analyzing everything. once you're intune with yourself - which can take time, don't be afraid to stare off into oblivion for hours on end <--- this is not wasting your life, something good comes from everything, and if you can figure something out from being a vegetable, and you probably can, then don't panic over doing it - if you spend your life worrying/analyzing and generally just /thinking/ TOO much, i'm not saying thinking is bad, then you will have wasted a small bit of life where you could have ACTUALLY figured something out by experiencing something good or bad or inbetween in your lifetime. perhaps every memory of everything you've ever done will be zapped into oblivion when this life is over, so what, are you going to wonder about it, or actually make the process happen so you can actually find out? <-- completely off topic. anyway, you may be wasting your time reading this, maybe not, the point is you've had the experience.

no one ever gets stuck in life, you're not stuck. sometimes we'll get stuck on the same stretch of highway for too long, and you think you should have taken a turn somewhere... maybe you try to and you find what you were looking for, maybe you take a turn and every turn you keep taking just gets you more lost, or maybe you just stay on that road, whether it's right or wrong, and enjoy the journey. no matter what directions you take towards your ultimate goal, what roads you follow to your ultimate desire, or how you come up to a simple rest stop on the way - don't miss out on the view, wherever you are.

Ugly Bastard · 10-17-2002, 01:42 AM

Life offers many directions for us to take. Which direction we choose to go is not any better than any other direction. It is just different, that's all.
We are at a point in our life where we make decisions that will decide whether we are the CEO of a big company, or the guy on the back of a garbage truck. And not one of those careers is any better than the other. Life has a pro and a con everywhere you look. With being a CEO, the pro is a lot of money, and the con is a lot of stress. With the waste management specialist, the pro is being able to come home to your small house with your wife and young children and know that you put in a hard days work to put food on the table for them, the con, life doesn't offer many perks to you. One thing I notice about society is that people with no money are far happier than the people with money. The poor realize how much life can kick you in the ass. So they are more appreciative of what they have in life. I can honestly say right now that the look on a homeless man's face, after I go to McDonald's and buy a Big Mac for him, is worth everything to me.

There was once a man walking in the desert. He was getting close to a village and was anxious to buy a glass of water from a merchant, as he was nearly dehydrated. The man had only one dollar on him to purchase this glass of water. As he got into the village he was approached by a poor-man with his young child at his side. The poor-man asked the traveler if he could spare a dollar so he and his child could eat that night. The traveler graciously gave the poor-man his dollar, and walked on through the village without even thinking about water. Surely isn't the look of joy on another man's face enough to quench the thirst of any man?

Guys, I realize we are just Kids. But, don't let life tangle you up with the concrete materials that we long for. If life wants you to be a garbage collector, you will be one. Sometimes it's the garbage collectors who have a better grasp on life than the richest businessman out there.

Thank you, and goodnight.

Freak of the Forest · 10-17-2002, 08:23 PM

.........anyway...

just be true to the you that you were destined to

St. Anky · 10-18-2002, 12:29 AM

Deep fellows, and I have to say BDH, very nicely put. I dont really understand how fire crotch's thirst story tied in with all of it... but it was a good moral one. And its so true that "fuck dude, we're in highschool." But I also must add that even though we're JUST in highschool, we never know if there IS a tomorrow to look forward to. How many times have you heard the words, "you have the rest of your life to look forward to"? When you think about it, you might only have today.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, dont think about it so much. Just live your life the way YOU think it should be lived. Once you begin living your life for someone else, you lose grasp of your identity.

~ just some deep words from a mexican

Combat Chuck · 10-23-2002, 12:07 PM

All I have to say is that it does get better. Seriously.

Right now I'm going through a seminally difficult time where there are times when I feel like being an introvert and never talking to people again, so that the risk of getting hurt never happens again. But that's not what life is about.

There was this quote that someone showed me today that went like this.

"Experience is the harshest teacher because she gives you the test first, then teaches you the lesson."

It sucks, but that's how it goes. However, DO NOT WALLOW IN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE LOST! If you do this, your mind will keep on telling you that you are lost, and so on and so on, until you truly beleive that there really isn't anything of worth in this world.

Just take every day one step at a time. Don't worry too much. Don't fall into titles of "lost" or "depressed", because usually, those are self-inflicted titles.

Not much else I can say.

10-17-2002, 12:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
wintergrey Guest Posts: n/a	I must say, rocksteady, way to pour you heart out. And bigdongedhoe, how true your words honestly are. I agree with WCHS having a bunch of stuck up bitches... "Fuck dude, it's high school"... That is probaly the most honest quote i have heard in a long time, and it makes oh so much sense. After we all graduate, nothing that went on in the halls of WCHS will matter at all. Some poeple just need to stop worry and do something for themselves every once in a while. If what your doing isn't making you happy, why the hell are you doing it?
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10-16-2002, 10:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
rocksteady Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1 Internets: 10	Before I get started, I feel the need to set my parameters after viewing just a bit of the content found on this forum for this piece of mind I wish to display. I apologize to those who are unable to muster interest from this solemn uncertainty of the human mind and life. I would like to kindly ask that those of you who do not contain the capacity to avoid replying with vulgarity in a manner that dipicts myslef as a whining insecure waste of life to refrain from taking this approach. Simply ignore the words that my fingers insist scripting into organized thoughts that will shortly be posted ofr everyone to view. Its almost as if I am using this as an outlet, allowing those who trully know nothing of me to take a small peak inside. What steps should be taken when someone has lost all hopes of grasping even the slightes touch of happiness? What if your known by everyone, yet by no one? You have an image, an identity, and friends, yet they exist in a world that possesses not even a single benefit to your life. On the contrary, there are benefits; however, all would be given up in the pursuit of anything greater, a feeling of love, happiness, contentment. An eminent feeling for quite some time yet intelligence reminds you its only a fraction of you life, that things will in due time take a turn. What if you know for a fact your stuck, exactly that, stuck, for a time that will eat away until your mind is empty. Fruitless if you will, a fruitless mind, almost as if there is no motivation to be anyone or anything eventually leading to exactly that. Its the last thing I want, yet inevitable. I am lost. How long must you wait for it? Am I am the only one that feels this way? I thought I would be prepared for these moments in my life. I was fully aware that they would occur, everyone said it would not be easy, but no one said it would be this hard. So many more views to illustrate, yet i have already wasted my time as well as yours. Maybe more will be brought forth as I am shown what interest this brings. Again, I understand if this forum was not designed for such discussion, and I apologize for even attempting if that is the case. Oddly enough, as I see many of your faces everyday as life continues I will hope that no one recognizes the owner of these thoughts when in reality I would do anything to show all of you I am nowhere near what you may think. The front is to keep the image, even if its unwanted and continually deteriorating. When I work out where to draw the line, your guess is as good as mine. -rocksteady

10-16-2002, 11:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	When I see a post like this I would normally react to it in a harsh or vulgar way. A way you would probably take offense to. But seeing as you are a WCHS student (i'm assuming) and that you could possibly be one of my friends I will tend to do the latter and respond to the best of my abilities. I see people type stuff like this all the time. How there lost and looking for something but they don't know what, for some it may be a girlfriend, a purpose in life, a way to gain respect, or just a plain feeling of acceptance. In my 3 1/4 years in high school I went from the freshman would do anything just to be someones friend. To try and be popular and get the girl, you know the whole deal be fake and not yourself to obtain ones friendship. I've gone from being like that my freshman year, searching if you wish to call it that. To a Senior now who is still searching but now does it with the right motives. The best quote I have ever heard from somebody is "Fuck dude, it's high school." Although this quote may seem inappropriate for such a serious topic, I will explain how incredibly appropriate it actually is. High school is 4 years of life your supposed to enjoy and cherrish, however when you don't have a feeling of acceptance you can never really cherrish the moment. I don't how to get this out or put it into words but find a couple close friends and hang on to them. I myself now like having a close knit group of guys that I spend the night with and hang out with outside of school and that's it. I don't want the big crowd of 20 guys to like me that we all hang out every once in a while. High School is supposed to be fun, so what if you don't have the popularity or so what if you don't have all the friends you want. 5 Years from now when you possibly meet your wife is she gonna care about how popular you were in high school or how many friends you had?? I would tend to think these are things she won't pay attention to or care about. Talking about WCHS as this sametime the girls here are not normal girls. I have dated a girl from Wawasee and hung out with many girls from that school and others for that matter. The girls from the other schools don't care about your popularity or your friends or anything like that. They like to hang out and be with you for you, and it's the same from me to them. The halls of WCHS consists of stuck up BITCHES (yes BITCHES) who are only concerned about there image and what guy will make them look the best to be with. Although there are a few girls at our school who are not that way (i apologize if you took offense to the comment above) those are few and far between. I guess what I'm saying is that these 4 years (for you probably 3/4 left) are 4 years outta your life that are not gonna matter 5,10,15,20 years down the road. It will be sad to leave WCHS this year and go to college next year. Although all of you I won't see everyday and although we wont' be as good of friends as we used to be. We can always look back at Nubblies as a source of communication, a source of high schoolers being us. Rocksteady maybe what I'm trying to tell you, is that we are 17 and 18 year old KIDS who are just trying to have some fun, layback have fun and stop searching because "fuck dude, it's high school." There will be bigger and better things in the future this i promise you sir. As far as acceptance goes, you are accepted into a family, yes I call it a family, a family of Nubblies.Com! To each and all this is a different side of BigDongedHoe I know, but fuck we all have something inside of us and all of us are people, just guys in high school, college, and some in nothing at all having a good time. "Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive" -Van Wilder

10-17-2002, 01:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Freak of the Forest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Warsaw, IN Posts: 22 Internets: 164	And thus, once you look under the magnifying glass of this philosophy you see... well shit... if high school doesn't matter... then why would college... and... why would life after college... and why would life after marriage or a career or whatever matter. so you pull out the gun and get ready to clock yourself. what you realize is that you're about to do is the equivalent of slowly consuming every - good AND bad AND every adjective in between - possibility in between and then proceeding to vomit them up everywhere, for everyone to witness and for some, do the same. a chain reaction of 'realization' that nothing matters. but what you /actually/ realize is that the only time that you waste in your life is the time spent not living. physically and metaphorically. why give up the opportunities for experience that you have now, for a risk, a risk that you won't have anymore, will have bad ones, good ones, or just a bunch more like in this life. so aside from the off-topic analysis on suicide... the same goes for wasting your life on over analyzing everything. once you're intune with yourself - which can take time, don't be afraid to stare off into oblivion for hours on end <--- this is not wasting your life, something good comes from everything, and if you can figure something out from being a vegetable, and you probably can, then don't panic over doing it - if you spend your life worrying/analyzing and generally just /thinking/ TOO much, i'm not saying thinking is bad, then you will have wasted a small bit of life where you could have ACTUALLY figured something out by experiencing something good or bad or inbetween in your lifetime. perhaps every memory of everything you've ever done will be zapped into oblivion when this life is over, so what, are you going to wonder about it, or actually make the process happen so you can actually find out? <-- completely off topic. anyway, you may be wasting your time reading this, maybe not, the point is you've had the experience. no one ever gets stuck in life, you're not stuck. sometimes we'll get stuck on the same stretch of highway for too long, and you think you should have taken a turn somewhere... maybe you try to and you find what you were looking for, maybe you take a turn and every turn you keep taking just gets you more lost, or maybe you just stay on that road, whether it's right or wrong, and enjoy the journey. no matter what directions you take towards your ultimate goal, what roads you follow to your ultimate desire, or how you come up to a simple rest stop on the way - don't miss out on the view, wherever you are.

10-17-2002, 01:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Life offers many directions for us to take. Which direction we choose to go is not any better than any other direction. It is just different, that's all. We are at a point in our life where we make decisions that will decide whether we are the CEO of a big company, or the guy on the back of a garbage truck. And not one of those careers is any better than the other. Life has a pro and a con everywhere you look. With being a CEO, the pro is a lot of money, and the con is a lot of stress. With the waste management specialist, the pro is being able to come home to your small house with your wife and young children and know that you put in a hard days work to put food on the table for them, the con, life doesn't offer many perks to you. One thing I notice about society is that people with no money are far happier than the people with money. The poor realize how much life can kick you in the ass. So they are more appreciative of what they have in life. I can honestly say right now that the look on a homeless man's face, after I go to McDonald's and buy a Big Mac for him, is worth everything to me. There was once a man walking in the desert. He was getting close to a village and was anxious to buy a glass of water from a merchant, as he was nearly dehydrated. The man had only one dollar on him to purchase this glass of water. As he got into the village he was approached by a poor-man with his young child at his side. The poor-man asked the traveler if he could spare a dollar so he and his child could eat that night. The traveler graciously gave the poor-man his dollar, and walked on through the village without even thinking about water. Surely isn't the look of joy on another man's face enough to quench the thirst of any man? Guys, I realize we are just Kids. But, don't let life tangle you up with the concrete materials that we long for. If life wants you to be a garbage collector, you will be one. Sometimes it's the garbage collectors who have a better grasp on life than the richest businessman out there. Thank you, and goodnight.

10-17-2002, 08:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Freak of the Forest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Warsaw, IN Posts: 22 Internets: 164	.........anyway... just be true to the you that you were destined to

10-18-2002, 12:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	Deep fellows, and I have to say BDH, very nicely put. I dont really understand how fire crotch's thirst story tied in with all of it... but it was a good moral one. And its so true that "fuck dude, we're in highschool." But I also must add that even though we're JUST in highschool, we never know if there IS a tomorrow to look forward to. How many times have you heard the words, "you have the rest of your life to look forward to"? When you think about it, you might only have today. I guess what I'm trying to say is, dont think about it so much. Just live your life the way YOU think it should be lived. Once you begin living your life for someone else, you lose grasp of your identity. ~ just some deep words from a mexican

10-23-2002, 12:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Combat Chuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,063 Internets: 10	All I have to say is that it does get better. Seriously. Right now I'm going through a seminally difficult time where there are times when I feel like being an introvert and never talking to people again, so that the risk of getting hurt never happens again. But that's not what life is about. There was this quote that someone showed me today that went like this. "Experience is the harshest teacher because she gives you the test first, then teaches you the lesson." It sucks, but that's how it goes. However, DO NOT WALLOW IN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE LOST! If you do this, your mind will keep on telling you that you are lost, and so on and so on, until you truly beleive that there really isn't anything of worth in this world. Just take every day one step at a time. Don't worry too much. Don't fall into titles of "lost" or "depressed", because usually, those are self-inflicted titles. Not much else I can say.