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Unread 10-21-2004, 04:15 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I heard a rumor that the halo2 leak may have been planned by microsoft to generate more publicity, and that the leaked version isnt a complete version.
I don't know. I could see them doing something like that. I don't think they'd do it in french though...but that Bill Gates is pretty smart, so you never know.

When it comes out (2 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours and 35 minutes) and I get some more money, i'm probably going to subscribe to Xbox live. Maybe after the Halo playing nubblites get good at the new one, we can have some online Nubblies Halo 2 tournaments.

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They wouldn't be the first to do it.

I downloaded a copy of XIII when it came out, and it was intentionally only the first 6 or 7 levels, then you couldn't advance it just said "if you want the access key (required for one of the levels) buy the program!"
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This is why them intentionally releasing the game doesn't make any sense to me:

The people that download the pre of the game can be divided into two groups:
People who were never going to buy the game in the first place
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People who plan/ned on buying the game

I assume we agree on the fact that the game would have (and still will) been available for download in full at the latest within days of the retail release.

That said, I would say that virtually everyone who would have downloaded the game instead of buying it once it came out downloaded this prerelease. Of course there are people who didn't get it because of various minor details (it being in french, doubting it's the real version, shit like that), but I think it's fair to say that this release isn't going to influence any of the would-be downloaders to buy the game once it releases. Either they downloaded this version...and they're content until the retail US version is available for download...or they didn't download this version because they're waiting for the retail US version to be available for download.

Since it had no way of affecting those who had already planned on downloading it, it could only affect those who had planned on buying the game in the first place. Since these people already were going to shell out the cash for the real version...there is no way to 'improve' their status by releasing this. The only potential effect that the release could have on them is showing them that modding your system to play backups/imports is good...because, even if cash isn't an issue, you get to play games weeks before they're released (even if this normally isn't the case...it's the message conveyed to the average gamer who has limited knowledge of mods and the like).

In closing, unless I'm missing something huge, intentionally releasing a game is a bad idea. Granted, someone could argue that it'll get 'Halo 2' on the news...but, unless the game is already huge to begin with (as Halo 2 is), it's not going to get any airtime worth talking about anyway (and, if it is huge enough to get airtime...it doesn't need it...because it's already big news).

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I read that there were already 1.5 million pre-orders in the U.S. alone. Thats not counting those that are still planning on preordering within the next few weeks, and just buying the game after it comes out. Thats insane.

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I talked today with a reliable source. He didnt have much information given the fact that its underwraps in the company due to some legal issues, however the comment was made that the version on the internet wasnt the final version.

This makes sense, since the game became available to download the day after it was sent to production. Unless they stole the digital tapes on the way to the production facility there is no way its the final version. The earliest that final version of Halo2 could become available for theft would be sometime next week when the first shipments go out.

The likelyhood is that the french version is a beta of some sort. Most of the qualities of the game will hold true in the final version, however there will be notable differences in weapon qualities, and mainly in the multiplayer modes.

Finally, from what i hear so far i hope this is true because the game sounds to be noob friendly, and that will mean halo2 wont have the staying power nor the level of competition of the orginal Halo, which is what kept it popular for so long. Regardless, im ready to throw down with anyone on nubblies on Nov 9th.
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someone could argue that it'll get 'Halo 2' on the news...but, unless the game is already huge to begin with (as Halo 2 is), it's not going to get any airtime worth talking about anyway (and, if it is huge enough to get airtime...it doesn't need it...because it's already big news).
I agree, its stupid to release a game on the internet intentionally it does nothing besides provide for possible plot spoilers. Microsoft has a $50 million dollar advertising campaign for halo2 that should start up in about a week and a half. The marketing campaign/publicity for this game is going to be on the level of most major movie releases, the attention generated from a stolen game wont come close to that.
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the game has to be the final version...unless they just made a completely different Halo to put out on the net [img]smile.gif[/img]

i've played it, and there are like 10 multiplayer maps..the campaign has progressed without any stopping...and the game is 4,000mb

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I've heard that Bungie is very mad indeed, and that they have made arrests already. They've only arrested the main people responsible though, and confiscated some random systems here and there.

Fight Aids, Fight Crime....not Halo.

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The theory is this...

To get someone to download it who wouldn't play it originally... get them hooked and encourage them to play the game.
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The engergy sword is the coolest new weapon..it's awesome.

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To get someone to download it who wouldn't play it originally... get them hooked and encourage them to play the game.
You mean someone would get addicted to Halo? I bet that never happens, ever.
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Just like to say Hi to everyone out there and that Halo sucks.

ok thats just cause i suck at it and cant get into the enjoyment of the game.

also active out is IU going.. U of I still sucks ass nothing new and exciting goin on here. PM me more info on your Xbox mod. thanks
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I read these two articals yesterday:
http://in.tech.yahoo.com/041103/137/2ho4i.html <and> http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3431411

"People who use these systems and think they're anonymous are mistaken," Malcolm said. Asked if he thought sites like Suprnova were illegal, he said: "That's still an issue we're studying, that reasonable minds can disagree on," he said.

It looks like downloaders anonymous at least still have some time still to use bittorrent. The courts would have to give out warrants or whatever for IP addresses to bust you and it doesn't appear the man is pursuing bittorrent right now.

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I will beat you to death with my Xbox. You know its heavy enough.

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my xbox gamertag is buckeye717

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How fucking ironic, I just recieved this E-mail this evening after that post i just made today about bittorrent (by the ways i'm a i'm an INCREDIBLEdumbass because i didn't see there were 3 pages and i just saw the first one so my post was way off topic:

*** YOUR COMPUTER’S ACCESS TO THE IU NETWORK IS SCHEDULED TO BE ***
*** DISABLED 24 HOURS FROM THE TIME THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT. YOU ***
*** MUST TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION, AS OUTLINED BELOW, TO AVOID ***
*** DISABLING. ***

Indiana University has received a complaint that copyrighted material
is being distributed from a computer that our records indicate is
registered to your username. A copy of this complaint is provided
below, at the end of this message. Indiana University is required by
law to take immediate action to take down this infringing material.

You must also take immediate action. Consequences include:
- DISABLING OF YOUR COMPUTER’S ACCESS TO THE IU NETWORK; and
- REFERRAL TO THE DEAN OF STUDENTS OFFICE FOR DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

To avoid these consequences, you must take the Indiana University File
Sharing Copyright Tutorial, and pass the included quiz.

To access the tutorial and quiz:
1) Using a web browser, go to Indiana University’s Oncourse
system: http://oncourse.iu.edu
2) Click on the "CAS Login" button in the top middle of the screen
3) At CAS login screen, enter your IU username and password
4) Click on the Fall 2003 course named "BL OVPIT S999 9999
File-Sharing Copyright Tutorial and Quiz"
5) If you are prompted to be "Listed" or "Not Listed", pick "Not
Listed"
6) Follow the instructions on the Course Announcements page to
begin the tutorial.

If you have problems logging in, please call the UITS Support Center
for your campus. For IUB, call 5-6789; for IUPUI, call 4-4357.

Downloading or distributing whole copies of copyrighted material for
personal use or entertainment without explicit permission from the
copyright owner is most certainly against the law. There are
substantial civil and criminal penalties for sharing copyright
material without permission or license, and if the copyright owner
presents Indiana University with a legal order to provide them with
the identity of the person to whom the computer is registered, we
would be obligated to give them that information.

Thank you for your immediate attention to this serious matter.

Regards,
-Robert
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VOICE: 317.274.8656

----- COMPUTER DETAILS -----
Assigned IP : [deleted]
MAC address : [deleted]
Computer name : badass
Network : HALLS-forest
Registrant : [deleted]

ORIGINAL COMPLAINT FROM THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER FOLLOWS:

> [[email protected] - Mon Nov 01 13:15:36 2004]:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Re: Unauthorized Use of Universal Motion Pictures
> Notice ID: 1665795
> 1 Nov 2004 17:36:08 GMT
>
> Dear Sir or Madam:
>
> Universal City Studios Productions LLLP and its affiliated companies
> (collectively, "Universal") are the exclusive owners of copyrights
> in many motion pictures, including the motion pictures listed
> below.
>
> It has come to our attention that Indiana University Computing
> Services is the service provider for the IP address listed below,
> from which unauthorized copying and distribution (downloading,
> uploading, file serving, file "swapping" or other similar
> activities) of Universal's motion picture(s) listed below is
taking
> place. We believe that the Internet access of the user engaging
in
> this infringement is provided by Indiana University Computing
> Services or a downstream service provider who purchases this
> connectivity from Indiana University Computing Services.
>
> This unauthorized copying and distribution constitutes copyright
> infringement under Section 106 of the U.S. Copyright Act .
> Depending upon the type of service Indiana University Computing
> Services is providing to this IP address, it may have legal and/or
> equitable liability if it does not expeditiously remove or disable
> access to the motion picture(s) listed below, or if it fails to
> implement a policy that provides for termination of subscribers
who
> are repeat infringers (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).
>
> Despite the above, Universal believes that the entire Internet
> community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively.
> We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing
> activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We
> appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
>
> The undersigned has a good faith belief that use of the motion
> pictures in the manner described herein is not authorized by
> Universal, its agent or the law. The information contained in
this
> notification is accurate. Under penalty of perjury, the
> undersigned is authorized to act on behalf of Universal with
> respect to this matter.
>
> Please be advised that this letter is not and is not intended to be a
> complete statement of the facts or law as they may pertain to this
> matter or of Universal's positions, rights or remedies, legal or
> equitable, all of which are specifically reserved.
>
> Very truly yours,
>
>
> Aaron Markham
> Manager of Internet Anti-Piracy,
> Worldwide Anti-Piracy Operations
> VIVENDI UNIVERSAL ENTERTAINMENT
> 100 Universal City Plaza
> Universal City, CA 91608
> tel. (818) 777-3111
> fax (818) 866-6339
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> *pgp public key is available on the key server at
> ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
> ** For any correspondence regarding this case, please send your
emails
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> you need immediate assistance or if you have general questions
> please call the number listed above.
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>
>
>
> Title: Mulholland Drive
> Infringement Source: BitTorrent
> Initial Infringement Timestamp: 30 Oct 2004 08:15:47 GMT
> Recent Infringment Timestamp: 30 Oct 2004 08:15:47 GMT
> Infringer Username:
> Infringing Filename: Mulholland.Drive.[DVDrip_FR-Charas].AVI
> Infringing Filesize: 719671062
> Infringers IP Address: [deleted]
> Infringers DNS Name: [deleted] .dhcp-bl.indiana.edu
> Infringing URL: [deleted]:44935/Mulholland.Drive.[DVDrip_FR-
> Charas].AVI
>
> - ---Start ACNS XML
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
> <Infringement xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
>
xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://mpto.unistudios.com/xml/Infringem
ent_schema.xsd">
> <Case>
> <ID>8325192</ID>
> <Status>New</Status>
> </Case>
> <Complainant>
> <Entity>Universal Studios</Entity>
> <Contact>Aaron Markham</Contact>
> <address>100 Universal City Plaza (1280/6)</Address>
> <Phone>818-777-3111</Phone>
> <Email>[email protected]</Email>
> </Complainant>
> <Service_Provider>
> <Entity>Indiana University Computing Services</Entity>
> <Contact></Contact>
> <address>2711 E 10th St</Address>
> <Email>[email protected]</Email>
> </Service_Provider>
> <Source>
> <TimeStamp>2004-10-30T08:15:47Z</TimeStamp>
> <IP_Address>[deleted]</IP_Address>
> <DNS_Name>[deleted].dhcp-bl.indiana.edu</DNS_Name>
> <Type>BitTorrent</Type>
> <UserName></UserName>
> <Number_Files>1</Number_Files>
> <Deja_Vu>No</Deja_Vu>
> </Source>
> <Content>
> <Item>
> <Title>Mulholland Drive</Title>
> <FileName>Mulholland.Drive.[DVDrip_FR-Charas].AVI</FileName>
> <FileSize>719671062</FileSize>
> <URL>[deleted]:44935/Mulholland.Drive.[DVDrip_FR-
> Charas].AVI</URL>
> <Type>Video</Type>
> </Item>
> </Content>
> </Infringement>
> - ---End ACNS XML
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 8.0
>
> iD8DBQFBhntDxl2Hb7//WT8RAvqxAJ0XNMl8ucjqXykW+ijuT0x4PrKSuQCeMwGu
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As you can see when you scroll down to Universal studios original e-mail Vivendi Universal does their homework. Guess i won't be buying halflife 2 now(i probably will anyways). AND HERES THE KICKER: the movie i eventually downloaded was in fucking French with no subtitles! well anyways i have to take a fucking copyright quiz tonight or I'm screwed.

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Wow dude...that fuckin sucks...

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Any updates, incredibledork?

Anyways, Making the Game on MTV was just on about Halo 2...and I about nutted. I only got to see like the last 15 minutes, but i saw that they were using music from actual bands on the soundtrack (hoobastank, breaking benjamin, and incubus to name a few). Also, they showed a preview from a cutscene at the beginning of the game...all I can say is, in a little over 24 hours, I hope to be back here popping that shit into my Xbox and playing it all night and day so I can fail my test on Tuesday.

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IGN put up their review tonight. They gave it a 9.8...pretty damn good. Of course, not all games can be 9.9's like San Andreas...
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Unread 11-08-2004, 01:11 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Mind posting a more specific link for GTA's rating, 'Gaz? I could have swore Halo 2 was higher than San Andreas...

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Blonde, I'm sure halo 2 will be good and all, but in reality it will be insignificant in complexity and depth of gameplay when compared to San Andreas. Sure halo 2 might have cool guns and sweet graphics, but San Andreas is just brilliant.
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