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Unread 12-15-2002, 11:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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USC's carson palmer walked away with the heisman. I was shocked when i heard about it. here was how the canidates finished.

1.palmer
2.banks
3.johnson
4.maghee
5.dorsey


probably the biggest shock of all was seeing dorsey finish last, i was amazed by this
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Unread 12-15-2002, 11:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, he really turned his career around and did a great job with usc this year, but i didn't forsee this. After johnson won all those awards the other day, i was expecting him to walk away with it.
Props to palmer though, he did do a hell of a job.
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My vote would of gone to Banks of Iowa...look what he did with that team. They would of DESTROYED OSU this year (yes buckeye destroyed). Iowa was definitely the class of the Big10 and the second best team behind Miami IMO.
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Unread 12-16-2002, 12:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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here are the voting totals


Voting Totals

1st 2nd 3rd Total
Palmer 242 224 154 1,328
Banks 199 173 152 1,095
Johnson 108 130 142 726
McGahee 101 118 121 660
Dorsey 122 89 99 643

as for iowa, if they played at the 'shoe, i think the buckeyes would win. If it was played in iowa i would probably give the edge to iowa. It is too bad the fiesta bowl wasnt Iowa vs Ohio State, then this argument could finally be over with.


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The reason Dorsey and McGahee finished in 4th and 5th is simply because the voters thought to themselves, "Hmm, Miami has been really awesome this year, I'll vote for (Blank)". And then, they split the votes, thus causing themselves to finish on the bottom like that. I would contend that if McGahee wasn't a candidate, Dorsey would have won the Heisman, and visa-versa.

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Unread 12-16-2002, 09:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That's a neat theory until you realize that their collective votes still fall short of Mr. Palmer's total...
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PS: While you make an interesting point, I would contest that even if only a dozen or so of the voters thought, "Hmm, I'll vote for Dorsey....nah, I'll vote for McGahee....wait...eh, fuck it, I'll just vote for Palmer", then Dorsey or McGahee could have won (assuming the other one of them was not a candidate). But who the hell cares, Palmer won, which is fine with me, because most Heisman winners end up sucking in the NFL anyways, so yeah....



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