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f3lix · 02-03-2007, 04:14 PM

The latest slew of amazing high school basketball players is lead by OJ Mayo (sounds like a gross combo). Anyway, to sum up an "indicident" that occurred, OJ's Nationally #1 ranked team faced off against the #2 team in their state. Late in the game, Mayo puts a thunderous dunk in posterizing form over a victimized defender. Mayo proceeds to walk back down the court with some intimidation attitude. He gets a Tech and some mild hell breaks loose. From the first video, you can see it appears he's somewhat guilty of several things. The second video clears him of all contact (before and after the 2nd T), and especially with the ref who flopped into the scoring table.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NyQxPf3JKWM&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qkt4YdLdXjM&mode=related&search=
To me, it appears that ref was paid off to make Mayo look bad, as Mayo was pretty controlled in his actions throughout. What are your thoughts?

Cocktooth · 02-03-2007, 05:42 PM

If he toucheed the ref at all, which he did bump him no matter how small, he should be suspended for a number of games. How can you be so talented and do things like that is beyond me. If you can't control your temper better then that at the High school level where the disipline is probably greater, In the NBA he is just going to be another stat that has a short career.

Beebs · 02-03-2007, 06:16 PM

He got fucked over

Ugly Bastard · 02-03-2007, 07:12 PM

I don't see how you could say he lost his temper. It appeared to me that he was pretty composed and possibly didn't even deserve the first T.

BigDongedHoe · 02-03-2007, 07:15 PM

For the record the first T he was given wasn't for the showboating. It was for holding the ball and a delay of game. He carries the ball to the ft line before he even lets go so on that standpoint he is deserving of the first t. From there on out I thought he acted pretty composed with a guy even shoving him and didn't deserve anything after that.

f3lix · 02-03-2007, 07:51 PM

Ref Mike Lazo's statement

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/wsaz_OJ_lazo.pdf

Beebs · 02-03-2007, 10:48 PM

LOL at the ref complaining about OJ using profanity at him after taking a dive.

OJ IS INNOCENT!

Orgazmo · 02-03-2007, 11:50 PM

He deserved the first T? Borderline. If so, certainly not for taunting the opposing player, as the report stated. The 2nd T? Absolutely ridiculous. The "shove"? Jesus.

Mike Lazo should be hanged by the cocknballs.

Cocktooth · 02-04-2007, 01:10 AM

Any type of contact with an official is a felony offense. I dont care how hard the bump....He bumped him thus the 2nd T....the first T was to control the game. Mayo is clearly in the wrong PERIOD

Beebs · 02-04-2007, 01:23 AM

"Any" would include accidental, which if there was any, it was clearly accidental, there would be a minimum of two ejections a game if "any" contact with the ref was called.

I hate people who take basketball so seriously, thats not the way it was ever intended to be played, it was intended to be a fun way for athletes to compete in the off season.

Cocktooth · 02-04-2007, 02:04 AM

was he angry when he approched the Ref????? Did he make contact with the ref???? The answer to both those questions are yes. That is an automatic ejection from the game. AUTOMATIC. It doenst matter what his intentions were. The state board of athletics mandates that any contact with an official with malitious intentent is an automatic ejection and will be further punished by the state board of athletics. I understand what should be or what could be, but that is the way the rules state. Understand I have been through this on both sides of the fence fellas

Beebs · 02-04-2007, 03:22 AM

He did not make contact with the official with malicious intent.

Cocktooth · 02-04-2007, 01:11 PM

When he approaches the Official in that way, it is consider malicious. Obviously he didnt mean to do any harm, but ANY contact with an official in that way is considered mallicious.

Beebs · 02-04-2007, 03:54 PM

You obviously do not understand the word malicious. If there even was any contact, which isn't clear in the first place, it was not intentional, which means it is impossible for it to be malicious.

Schroeder · 02-04-2007, 04:18 PM

It was a conscious choice he made to walk through the crowd of people when he very obviously could have walked around them instead. It wasn't even a good angle to go towards his bench.

Beebs · 02-04-2007, 05:04 PM

Still didn't push the ref with malicious intent, the ref was grandstanding.

Ugly Bastard · 02-04-2007, 05:20 PM

Schroeder I'm amazed that after all these years you're still a total dumbass.

f3lix · 02-04-2007, 10:48 PM

Anybody else notice that Lazo just watches Mayo after the first T and makes no attempt to stop him from rejoining the ruckus? A ref intending to stop something from getting out of hand gets in the way and doesn't even allow the player to cause more trouble. But Lazo just watches him and awaits for the time to T him up again. Then, as the 2nd video shows (Shaw), Mayo doesn't even touch anybody before he's T'ed up again. Thank God for these videos, which clears bigot headed people from wrongfully suspending a player.

02-03-2007, 04:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Punk or Punk'd? The latest slew of amazing high school basketball players is lead by OJ Mayo (sounds like a gross combo). Anyway, to sum up an "indicident" that occurred, OJ's Nationally #1 ranked team faced off against the #2 team in their state. Late in the game, Mayo puts a thunderous dunk in posterizing form over a victimized defender. Mayo proceeds to walk back down the court with some intimidation attitude. He gets a Tech and some mild hell breaks loose. From the first video, you can see it appears he's somewhat guilty of several things. The second video clears him of all contact (before and after the 2nd T), and especially with the ref who flopped into the scoring table. http://youtube.com/watch?v=NyQxPf3JKWM&mode=related&search= http://youtube.com/watch?v=qkt4YdLdXjM&mode=related&search= To me, it appears that ref was paid off to make Mayo look bad, as Mayo was pretty controlled in his actions throughout. What are your thoughts?

02-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	If he toucheed the ref at all, which he did bump him no matter how small, he should be suspended for a number of games. How can you be so talented and do things like that is beyond me. If you can't control your temper better then that at the High school level where the disipline is probably greater, In the NBA he is just going to be another stat that has a short career.
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02-03-2007, 07:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	For the record the first T he was given wasn't for the showboating. It was for holding the ball and a delay of game. He carries the ball to the ft line before he even lets go so on that standpoint he is deserving of the first t. From there on out I thought he acted pretty composed with a guy even shoving him and didn't deserve anything after that.
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02-04-2007, 01:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	Any type of contact with an official is a felony offense. I dont care how hard the bump....He bumped him thus the 2nd T....the first T was to control the game. Mayo is clearly in the wrong PERIOD
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02-04-2007, 02:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	was he angry when he approched the Ref????? Did he make contact with the ref???? The answer to both those questions are yes. That is an automatic ejection from the game. AUTOMATIC. It doenst matter what his intentions were. The state board of athletics mandates that any contact with an official with malitious intentent is an automatic ejection and will be further punished by the state board of athletics. I understand what should be or what could be, but that is the way the rules state. Understand I have been through this on both sides of the fence fellas
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

02-03-2007, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	He got fucked over

02-03-2007, 07:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I don't see how you could say he lost his temper. It appeared to me that he was pretty composed and possibly didn't even deserve the first T.

02-03-2007, 07:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Ref Mike Lazo's statement http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/wsaz_OJ_lazo.pdf

02-03-2007, 10:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	LOL at the ref complaining about OJ using profanity at him after taking a dive. OJ IS INNOCENT!

02-03-2007, 11:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,733 Internets: 311447	He deserved the first T? Borderline. If so, certainly not for taunting the opposing player, as the report stated. The 2nd T? Absolutely ridiculous. The "shove"? Jesus. Mike Lazo should be hanged by the cocknballs.

02-04-2007, 01:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	"Any" would include accidental, which if there was any, it was clearly accidental, there would be a minimum of two ejections a game if "any" contact with the ref was called. I hate people who take basketball so seriously, thats not the way it was ever intended to be played, it was intended to be a fun way for athletes to compete in the off season.

02-04-2007, 03:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	He did not make contact with the official with malicious intent.

02-04-2007, 01:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	When he approaches the Official in that way, it is consider malicious. Obviously he didnt mean to do any harm, but ANY contact with an official in that way is considered mallicious.
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02-04-2007, 03:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	You obviously do not understand the word malicious. If there even was any contact, which isn't clear in the first place, it was not intentional, which means it is impossible for it to be malicious.

02-04-2007, 04:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Schroeder Unwanted Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,543 Internets: -885	It was a conscious choice he made to walk through the crowd of people when he very obviously could have walked around them instead. It wasn't even a good angle to go towards his bench.

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f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Anybody else notice that Lazo just watches Mayo after the first T and makes no attempt to stop him from rejoining the ruckus? A ref intending to stop something from getting out of hand gets in the way and doesn't even allow the player to cause more trouble. But Lazo just watches him and awaits for the time to T him up again. Then, as the 2nd video shows (Shaw), Mayo doesn't even touch anybody before he's T'ed up again. Thank God for these videos, which clears bigot headed people from wrongfully suspending a player.