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Beebs · 09-11-2007, 04:45 PM

The best comebacks in MMA history

Never say die highlight by Wamrage

BigDongedHoe · 09-11-2007, 07:48 PM

Griffin/Ortiz I thought was kinda bad but it was nothing in comparison to Hamil/Bisping.

Beebs · 09-11-2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe

Griffin/Ortiz I thought was kinda bad but it was nothing in comparison to Hamil/Bisping.

Agreed, Griffin Ortiz was a close fight, but under the 10 point must system Tito won two rounds. Hamill won round 1 easily, round 2 cleanly, and arguably round 3.

In terms of big fights: Ricco Rodriguez vs Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria was pretty bad and was very important, Fedor vs Arona was very close and probably should have went the other way and was important in that it kept Fedor basically undefeated.

Heaven Can Wait · 09-12-2007, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff Mullen
Hello to everyone on the Underground. I have been reading the underground for years. I used to post quite a bit. Then I decided it would be better for me to stay out of all the arguments. I want to thank all of you guys for being so nice to me through the years. I have seen almost no negative posts about me here until now.

I first started judging the UFC in 1996. I have been judging UFC almost twice as long as any other active judge. I am a former kick boxer and have been training grappling for 13 years. I am not here to argue with any of you or tell you that your opinion is wrong. I am only going to tell you why I judged the fight the way I did. Watch the fight again and turn off the sound. Commentary can color what you see.

No doubt Bisping dominated the 1st. He hurt Bisping with a right hand right off the bat and again near the end of the round. He out scored Bisping and busted him up. It was a very impressive round for Hamill but still a 10-9 round. Not dominate enough for a 10-8.

Watch the beginning of the second round closely. When Hamill throws the jab, Bisping slips the punch and hits him with his own counter jab. It is hard to see on camera because Hamill's back is to the camera. His back was also to Goldie who was talking like the beginning of this round was like a continuation of the 1st. If you look you will see that Hamill is facing me giving me a clear view of what is landing.

Bisping was landing the jab again and again and not getting hit. Hamill got 2 takedowns in rounds 2 and 3 but did very little with them. Bisping is using an active guard trying to turn for armbars and sweeps, Hamill is doing very little on top. Bisping is keeping him from scoring or improving his position. In the 3rd round Bisping actually lands more punchesd from the bottom than Hamill does from the top.

In both the 2nd and 3rd rounds Bisping does more scoring. Striking. Under pride style scoring Hamill would have won. He did more damage, but it was all in the 1st round. By 10 point must system Bisping won the fight 2 rounds to 1 . 29-28 Bisping. Sometime the angle you see the fight effects your decision. That is why they put the judges on 3 different sides.

BY THE WAY MARIO YAMASAKI THOUGHT BISPING WON ROUNDS 2 AND 3 ALSO. MARIO WAS THE REF AND HAD A BETTER VIEW THAN ANY OF US. I have never taken a payoff as some of you have suggested and never will.

You may not agree with my decision but please don't question my honesty.

Thank you Jeff Mullen

Beebs · 09-22-2007, 11:34 PM

UFC 76-HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Repugnant Abomination · 09-23-2007, 12:06 AM

I feel so confused...

...I think Chuck's time is up. We all knew he was going to burn out soon, given his reputation as a late night party guy. I figured he had another year or so left in him of being a top 3 LHW, but obviously not. I hope he fights one or two more times just to make sure, but if he keeps losing he'll just tarnish his legacy. He's still the greatest LHW champ of all time as of right now.

With Forrest and Shogun, personally, I suspect Shogun will never be as good as he was in Pride, nor will the majority of Pride guys, because they were all juiced up. It's a well known fact Pride didn't test for Roids. As for Forrest, it's still difficult to guage where he's at. I think another win over a top guy though puts him in line for a title shot.

This was a historical show in the sense that the changing of the guard has begun.

Beebs · 09-23-2007, 12:08 AM

Well, this firmly establishes the #1 205er in Rampage, the rest are unrankable.

Except for Hendo, he's still definitively top 5.

Repugnant Abomination · 09-23-2007, 12:44 AM

We need to post some vids of 76 now!

Beebs · 09-23-2007, 01:35 AM

Not up yet.

Cocktooth · 09-23-2007, 01:50 AM

How can you say that you are still uncertain where Forrest is at??? Tonight he showed he can battle on the ground and on his feet. I had a hard fucking time getting the PPV at my place. I got it just in time for the Griffin Rua fight. I'm re watching the entire PPV til 4 a.m. Griffin showed he has improved so much on the ground, which was my concern. Rua was gassed, as everyone said and saw, after about 1:50 into the 2nd round. I just watched the Diego Sanchez fight, and I don't see how Fitch was a 30-27 winner with the first judge. Sanchez, at the least, won round 3. He put together 3 of the best submisson attempts I have seen in a long time. Liddelll isn't done. He trimmed down a bit for this fight. He still had a gut, but he trimmed down a bit. He has never been a solid MMA figher, but he has been a guy with a nasty right hand. I would love to see Jardine Griffin II, with the winner fighting Rampage. Call me crazy, and I am a HUGE Griffin fan, but I think Forrest could rock Rampage. Overall, 76 was a great PPV. I'm happy I bought it and am still watching it as we speak. Im going to watch the Rua-Griffin fight one more time!!!! If you want to see MMA at its best, watch the Sanchez-Fitch fight. Amazing MMA. AMAZING

Repugnant Abomination · 09-23-2007, 02:06 AM

We can't guage here Griffin is at because it's difficult to tell where Shogun was at. He's clearly not the same guy who won the 2005 gp. On top of that he's coming off a loss to Keith Jardine, who was coming off a loss to Houston Alexander. The fact of the matter is the whole 205 division is pretty unrankable right now.
1. Rampage
2. Hendo
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
All we can say is that Griffin is back in the winning circle, and back in the mix.

Cocktooth · 09-23-2007, 02:32 AM

You are wrong. Griffin had won his last fight. He was a different fighter in that fight. He has showed in his last 2 fights, he is no longer a stand up brawler. He can do that with anybody. He can now go to ground, and he is just getting better. He is fighting out of Courture's camp now. Couture has taught him alot of ground work, and he will keep on teaching. Griffin vs. Alexander his next fight will be awesome. I love Alexander's striking, but he hasn't be able to get to the ground to prove that part of his fighting. I don't think Hendo is number 2 in that class. He went the distance with Rampage, which is impressive, but the entire fight was centered around him walking around Rampage's right hand. I think if a fighter takes it to either one of them, it will be a great fight. Rampage is just like Kimbo. ( Youtube.com street fighter. Big nigger who has heavy fist) Keep him away with the jab and avoid the right, plus firing off combinations and a soild fighter can take him!!

Cocktooth · 09-23-2007, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

1. Rampage
2. Alexander
3. Griffin
4. Hendo
5. You might think I'm crazy, but Bonner is coming back. I'm going to put him at 5.
All we can say is that Griffin is back in the winning circle, and back in the mix.

...

Beebs · 09-23-2007, 12:35 PM

Dude, Stephan Bonner as the 5th best 205er in the world?

Did Rashad, Wanderlei, Lyoto Machida, Babalu, Chuck, Sokoudojou, and Arona all just die?

Repugnant Abomination · 09-23-2007, 06:05 PM

For real. You're what we call a "tuff noob", Jared. I'd even put Belfort, Overeem, Sergie, little Nog and Tito over Bonar. Probably a lot of other fights I'm not even thinking of, too.

Cocktooth · 09-23-2007, 08:14 PM

Yeah, I'm relitively new to the new UFC. I was a bigger fan back when it first started. Although, at least I know what happened in Griffin's last fight. Might be a noob, but I call it like I've seen it in the past 3 years. Evans does deserve to be up there, but he is black, so I felt I should screw him over in my rankings. McNabb says we all do it!!

Beebs · 09-23-2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

For real. You're what we call a "tuff noob", Jared. I'd even put Belfort, Overeem, Sergie, little Nog and Tito over Bonar. Probably a lot of other fights I'm not even thinking of, too.

Sergie? As in Sergei Kharitanov? Who weighs about 240 and has never fought at 205?

Repugnant Abomination · 09-23-2007, 09:59 PM

Is he heavy weight? Yeah I guess so. My bad.

Shut up.

...Just for the record, I'm still putting Sergie over Bonar.

Beebs · 09-30-2007, 04:36 AM

YouTube - Szellem nyert

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new middleweight champion, and he's not a jab and runner, he's a fucking puncher.

If you have HBO you need to catch this fight when it runs again or when it gets to ondemand, incredible stuff, throwback to the times of hearns, hagler, Graziano, Zale, LaMotta......its good shit, and its good for boxing.

Repugnant Abomination · 10-02-2007, 03:50 PM

I can't enjoy boxing when I know a double leg take down and mount would end the fight in about 30 seconds.

Beebs · 10-02-2007, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

I can't enjoy boxing when I know a double leg take down and mount would end the fight in about 30 seconds.

Well thats pretty faggy of you.

Cocktooth · 10-02-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

I can't enjoy boxing when I know a double leg take down and mount would end the fight in about 30 seconds.

Yeah faggy is the word I would use as well.

Heaven Can Wait · 10-20-2007, 12:13 PM

Live stream to Cage Wars, some shitty british knockoff, 19:15-22:30 GMT
http://www.cagewars.co.uk/

Stream:
http://stream02.keyone.co.uk/ut

Repugnant Abomination · 10-20-2007, 11:59 PM

Oh, Rich

Cocktooth · 10-21-2007, 12:30 AM

I just got home from a vacation. Was unable to make plans for the PPV to night. Can anyone give me some results??

09-11-2007, 07:48 PM	#27 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	Griffin/Ortiz I thought was kinda bad but it was nothing in comparison to Hamil/Bisping.
	There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two.

09-12-2007, 08:50 AM	#29 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	Originally Posted by Jeff Mullen Hello to everyone on the Underground. I have been reading the underground for years. I used to post quite a bit. Then I decided it would be better for me to stay out of all the arguments. I want to thank all of you guys for being so nice to me through the years. I have seen almost no negative posts about me here until now. I first started judging the UFC in 1996. I have been judging UFC almost twice as long as any other active judge. I am a former kick boxer and have been training grappling for 13 years. I am not here to argue with any of you or tell you that your opinion is wrong. I am only going to tell you why I judged the fight the way I did. Watch the fight again and turn off the sound. Commentary can color what you see. No doubt Bisping dominated the 1st. He hurt Bisping with a right hand right off the bat and again near the end of the round. He out scored Bisping and busted him up. It was a very impressive round for Hamill but still a 10-9 round. Not dominate enough for a 10-8. Watch the beginning of the second round closely. When Hamill throws the jab, Bisping slips the punch and hits him with his own counter jab. It is hard to see on camera because Hamill's back is to the camera. His back was also to Goldie who was talking like the beginning of this round was like a continuation of the 1st. If you look you will see that Hamill is facing me giving me a clear view of what is landing. Bisping was landing the jab again and again and not getting hit. Hamill got 2 takedowns in rounds 2 and 3 but did very little with them. Bisping is using an active guard trying to turn for armbars and sweeps, Hamill is doing very little on top. Bisping is keeping him from scoring or improving his position. In the 3rd round Bisping actually lands more punchesd from the bottom than Hamill does from the top. In both the 2nd and 3rd rounds Bisping does more scoring. Striking. Under pride style scoring Hamill would have won. He did more damage, but it was all in the 1st round. By 10 point must system Bisping won the fight 2 rounds to 1 . 29-28 Bisping. Sometime the angle you see the fight effects your decision. That is why they put the judges on 3 different sides. BY THE WAY MARIO YAMASAKI THOUGHT BISPING WON ROUNDS 2 AND 3 ALSO. MARIO WAS THE REF AND HAD A BETTER VIEW THAN ANY OF US. I have never taken a payoff as some of you have suggested and never will. You may not agree with my decision but please don't question my honesty. Thank you Jeff Mullen
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

09-23-2007, 12:08 AM	#32 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Well, this firmly establishes the #1 205er in Rampage, the rest are unrankable. Except for Hendo, he's still definitively top 5.
	Last edited by Beebs; 09-23-2007 at 12:15 AM.

09-23-2007, 01:50 AM	#35 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	How can you say that you are still uncertain where Forrest is at??? Tonight he showed he can battle on the ground and on his feet. I had a hard fucking time getting the PPV at my place. I got it just in time for the Griffin Rua fight. I'm re watching the entire PPV til 4 a.m. Griffin showed he has improved so much on the ground, which was my concern. Rua was gassed, as everyone said and saw, after about 1:50 into the 2nd round. I just watched the Diego Sanchez fight, and I don't see how Fitch was a 30-27 winner with the first judge. Sanchez, at the least, won round 3. He put together 3 of the best submisson attempts I have seen in a long time. Liddelll isn't done. He trimmed down a bit for this fight. He still had a gut, but he trimmed down a bit. He has never been a solid MMA figher, but he has been a guy with a nasty right hand. I would love to see Jardine Griffin II, with the winner fighting Rampage. Call me crazy, and I am a HUGE Griffin fan, but I think Forrest could rock Rampage. Overall, 76 was a great PPV. I'm happy I bought it and am still watching it as we speak. Im going to watch the Rua-Griffin fight one more time!!!! If you want to see MMA at its best, watch the Sanchez-Fitch fight. Amazing MMA. AMAZING
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

09-23-2007, 02:32 AM	#37 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	You are wrong. Griffin had won his last fight. He was a different fighter in that fight. He has showed in his last 2 fights, he is no longer a stand up brawler. He can do that with anybody. He can now go to ground, and he is just getting better. He is fighting out of Courture's camp now. Couture has taught him alot of ground work, and he will keep on teaching. Griffin vs. Alexander his next fight will be awesome. I love Alexander's striking, but he hasn't be able to get to the ground to prove that part of his fighting. I don't think Hendo is number 2 in that class. He went the distance with Rampage, which is impressive, but the entire fight was centered around him walking around Rampage's right hand. I think if a fighter takes it to either one of them, it will be a great fight. Rampage is just like Kimbo. ( Youtube.com street fighter. Big nigger who has heavy fist) Keep him away with the jab and avoid the right, plus firing off combinations and a soild fighter can take him!!
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

09-22-2007, 11:34 PM	#30 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	UFC 76-HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

09-23-2007, 12:06 AM	#31 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	I feel so confused... ...I think Chuck's time is up. We all knew he was going to burn out soon, given his reputation as a late night party guy. I figured he had another year or so left in him of being a top 3 LHW, but obviously not. I hope he fights one or two more times just to make sure, but if he keeps losing he'll just tarnish his legacy. He's still the greatest LHW champ of all time as of right now. With Forrest and Shogun, personally, I suspect Shogun will never be as good as he was in Pride, nor will the majority of Pride guys, because they were all juiced up. It's a well known fact Pride didn't test for Roids. As for Forrest, it's still difficult to guage where he's at. I think another win over a top guy though puts him in line for a title shot. This was a historical show in the sense that the changing of the guard has begun.

09-23-2007, 12:44 AM	#33 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	We need to post some vids of 76 now!

09-23-2007, 01:35 AM	#34 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Not up yet.

09-23-2007, 02:06 AM	#36 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	We can't guage here Griffin is at because it's difficult to tell where Shogun was at. He's clearly not the same guy who won the 2005 gp. On top of that he's coming off a loss to Keith Jardine, who was coming off a loss to Houston Alexander. The fact of the matter is the whole 205 division is pretty unrankable right now. 1. Rampage 2. Hendo 3. ? 4. ? 5. ? All we can say is that Griffin is back in the winning circle, and back in the mix.

09-23-2007, 12:35 PM	#39 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Dude, Stephan Bonner as the 5th best 205er in the world? Did Rashad, Wanderlei, Lyoto Machida, Babalu, Chuck, Sokoudojou, and Arona all just die?

09-23-2007, 06:05 PM	#40 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	For real. You're what we call a "tuff noob", Jared. I'd even put Belfort, Overeem, Sergie, little Nog and Tito over Bonar. Probably a lot of other fights I'm not even thinking of, too.
	Last edited by Repugnant Abomination; 09-23-2007 at 06:07 PM.

09-23-2007, 08:14 PM	#41 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	Yeah, I'm relitively new to the new UFC. I was a bigger fan back when it first started. Although, at least I know what happened in Griffin's last fight. Might be a noob, but I call it like I've seen it in the past 3 years. Evans does deserve to be up there, but he is black, so I felt I should screw him over in my rankings. McNabb says we all do it!!
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

09-23-2007, 09:59 PM	#43 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Is he heavy weight? Yeah I guess so. My bad. Shut up. ...Just for the record, I'm still putting Sergie over Bonar.

10-02-2007, 03:50 PM	#45 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	I can't enjoy boxing when I know a double leg take down and mount would end the fight in about 30 seconds.

10-20-2007, 12:13 PM	#48 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	Live stream to Cage Wars, some shitty british knockoff, 19:15-22:30 GMT http://www.cagewars.co.uk/ Stream: http://stream02.keyone.co.uk/ut
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

10-20-2007, 11:59 PM	#49 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Oh, Rich

10-21-2007, 12:30 AM	#50 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	I just got home from a vacation. Was unable to make plans for the PPV to night. Can anyone give me some results??
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

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