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Repugnant Abomination · 12-01-2010, 06:21 PM

View: Generally speaking, wing players in the NBA possess the greatest combination of power and grace in any sport.

Cocktooth · 12-01-2010, 06:24 PM

I would agree, but there was once a girl named Domonic Mochianu that wins this war!

Beebs · 12-01-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

View: Generally speaking, wing players in the NBA possess the greatest combination of power and grace in any sport.

Ever see one of them try to do anything outside of basketball? They look like Bambi on ice. There is a reason pretty much every other sport has their tallest participants at 6'6" at most; because people bigger than that are gangly as shit and are only suited to basketball.

NBA players are the most overrated athletes in terms of "athleticism" in the world: like Jeremy Shockey pointed out, Lebron James may have the body of a tight end, but he has the speed of a Guard or Center, he wouldn't make a practice team.

NFL players are bigger, stronger, and faster.

In terms of grace, yea, gymnasts might just be it.

Beebs · 12-01-2010, 06:39 PM

New View: The greatest athlete of all time is Aleksander Karelin

YouTube - Alexander Karelin HL

YouTube - Aleksandr Karelin Intro

Repugnant Abomination · 12-01-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

Ever see one of them try to do anything outside of basketball? They look like Bambi on ice. There is a reason pretty much every other sport has their tallest participants at 6'6" at most; because people bigger than that are gangly as shit and are only suited to basketball.

NBA players are the most overrated athletes in terms of "athleticism" in the world: like Jeremy Shockey pointed out, Lebron James may have the body of a tight end, but he has the speed of a Guard or Center, he wouldn't make a practice team.

NFL players are bigger, stronger, and faster.

In terms of grace, yea, gymnasts might just be it.

That's why I said wing players, because they're generally between 6'4 - 6'8 or so. And that's also why I said the best combination of power and grace. Don't make me start uploading Michael Jordan highlight videos.

Cocktooth · 12-01-2010, 07:22 PM

YouTube - Dominique Moceanu - 1996 Olympics Team Optionals - Floor Ex

Cocktooth · 12-02-2010, 12:16 AM

God damn. What grace!!! I was obsessed with her in 96. It was a tie between her and Jennifer Aniston. ( My parents subscribed to the TV Guide back then.) Not to be lost in all of that, I have seen Charlie Daniels twice in my life. Chalk one up for all of you Shaw is a Red Neck fan club.

DJ FC · 12-02-2010, 01:44 AM

In terms of athleticism and potential I can think of no current athlete as awesome to watch as Gareth Bale:

YouTube - Gareth Bale Vs Inter

Cocktooth · 12-02-2010, 01:57 AM

I stopped that video, and can judge it by music alone. Next please!

I stand corrected. After watching this video, with the sound muted, I got an unbiased view of how talented this kid is. He apparently plays against at least 3 of the worst keepers in the world.

DJ FC · 12-02-2010, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaw

I stopped that video, and can judge it by music alone. Next please!

I stand corrected. After watching this video, with the sound muted, I got an unbiased view of how talented this kid is. He apparently plays against at least 3 of the worst keepers in the world.

Sorry about the music, and let me put the video in context.

Inter Milan is the reigning champion of the UEFA Champions Leage, in theory the best team in the world, in reality certainly near the top. Tottenham is a less than premier club. Gareth Bale runs through them like a kid in a school yard. For a winger to single handedly destroy a premier club is almost unprecidented. It would be like a running back with an average offensive line single handedly demolishing the best defense in the NFL. What makes it remarkable is that Gareth Bale did it on pure athleticism, which is why I posted it here. He doesn't do any fancy tricks, he doesn't need support from his team. He's just faster, quicker, and able to handle the ball better at high speed, than his opponents - and they are the cream of the crop. He makes them look silly.

Beebs · 12-02-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ FC

In terms of athleticism and potential I can think of no current athlete as awesome to watch as Gareth Bale:

While I think is the best left midfielder in the world at the moment, and one of the best left backs, and certainly fun to watch....

I present to you, Super Mario Balotelli, 20 years old.

YouTube - Mario Balotelli - 2010

And of course Messi is not much older, but isn't as traditionally "athletic" but Ronaldo is.

thekremlin · 12-02-2010, 11:45 AM

Gareth Bale is a class act.

Beebs · 12-02-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thekremlin

Gareth Bale is a class act.

True, but Mario is batshit insane, and I much prefer that.

Although he has shown class in the way he deals with racists; he has to face banners that say "There are no black Italians" during HOME games when he plays for Italy.

f3lix · 12-03-2010, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

Although he has shown class in the way he deals with racists; he has to face banners that say "There are no black Italians" during HOME games when he plays for Italy.

I'm confused about what you are saying here.

Beebs · 12-03-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

I'm confused about what you are saying here.

He's a 20 year old kid starting for his countries national team and still has to deal with blatant racisim against him.

He handles it remarkably well.

thekremlin · 12-04-2010, 07:40 PM

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Boston Red Sox have deal for Adrian Gonzalez of San Diego Padres, sources say - ESPN Boston

f3lix · 12-05-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

He's a 20 year old kid starting for his countries national team and still has to deal with blatant racisim against him.

He handles it remarkably well.

No, no. That's not what I meant. Are you suggesting there are black Italians?

Beebs · 12-05-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

No, no. That's not what I meant. Are you suggesting there are black Italians?

Well Italians in terms of citizens. The kid grew up in Italy, with ethnically Italian adoptive parents, and is their brightest talent in a decade or so at the age of 20.

So in this sense, yes there are black Italians.

DJ FC · 12-06-2010, 06:29 AM

All Italians are black. Hence the term "Guinea"

Cocktooth · 12-11-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thekremlin

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Boston Red Sox have deal for Adrian Gonzalez of San Diego Padres, sources say - ESPN Boston

Lenord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thekremlin · 12-15-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

It's just a game between great organizations and two QBs [one of them he's referring to is Tom Brady] past their prime, but still playing very well.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Beebs · 12-15-2010, 07:14 PM

That post and this special on ESPN about QB's has reminded me of one of my views:

No other position in a team sport has the responsibility of a QB; also there is no real direct comparison that I can think of with the position. There are deep-lying playmakers in soccer that play a similar role, but carry much less of a a percentage of the overall responsibility.

DJ FC · 12-16-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

That post and this special on ESPN about QB's has reminded me of one of my views:

No other position in a team sport has the responsibility of a QB; also there is no real direct comparison that I can think of with the position. There are deep-lying playmakers in soccer that play a similar role, but carry much less of a a percentage of the overall responsibility.

How about motorsports? The driver clearly being the QB.

And I think pitchers are very close to QBs as well.

thekremlin · 12-16-2010, 01:46 AM

I would say the pitcher in baseball has probably a bit more responsibility. Probably more than 75% of a team's defense depends on the one player, and a lousy pitcher can never hide behind his team's fielding. Whereas I think people tend to overvalue the quarterback and undervalue the offensive line.

SittinOnDubsWGW · 12-17-2010, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thekremlin

I would say the pitcher in baseball has probably a bit more responsibility. Probably more than 75% of a team's defense depends on the one player, and a lousy pitcher can never hide behind his team's fielding. Whereas I think people tend to overvalue the quarterback and undervalue the offensive line.

Truth to all of it, particularly the last sentence.

12-01-2010, 06:24 PM	#77 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	I would agree, but there was once a girl named Domonic Mochianu that wins this war!
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12-02-2010, 12:16 AM	#82 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	God damn. What grace!!! I was obsessed with her in 96. It was a tie between her and Jennifer Aniston. ( My parents subscribed to the TV Guide back then.) Not to be lost in all of that, I have seen Charlie Daniels twice in my life. Chalk one up for all of you Shaw is a Red Neck fan club.
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

12-02-2010, 01:57 AM	#84 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	I stopped that video, and can judge it by music alone. Next please! I stand corrected. After watching this video, with the sound muted, I got an unbiased view of how talented this kid is. He apparently plays against at least 3 of the worst keepers in the world.
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

12-06-2010, 06:29 AM	#94 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	All Italians are black. Hence the term "Guinea"
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Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	View: Generally speaking, wing players in the NBA possess the greatest combination of power and grace in any sport.

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12-15-2010, 07:14 PM	#97 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	That post and this special on ESPN about QB's has reminded me of one of my views: No other position in a team sport has the responsibility of a QB; also there is no real direct comparison that I can think of with the position. There are deep-lying playmakers in soccer that play a similar role, but carry much less of a a percentage of the overall responsibility.

12-16-2010, 01:46 AM	#99 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	I would say the pitcher in baseball has probably a bit more responsibility. Probably more than 75% of a team's defense depends on the one player, and a lousy pitcher can never hide behind his team's fielding. Whereas I think people tend to overvalue the quarterback and undervalue the offensive line.