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Cocktooth · 09-21-2011, 10:36 AM

Yeah, be careful on the texting. The Coach/Player relationship these days can't be taken outside of the court/field etc. There are to many situations that can arise that you don't want to be a part of. I was told on my first day on the job, under no circumstances do you text,call, or offer to take a student home. You might be trying to do the right thing, but in a situation like that, it's their word vs. yours. All it takes is one upset parent to start a war.

Beebs · 09-21-2011, 10:52 AM

All I'm texting is either laughing at something they send, or telling them good game or what jerseys to wear.

DDTempest · 09-21-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

All I'm texting is either laughing at something they send

This part starts off harmless and gets out of hand fast ... first time one of these kids sends you an inappropriate text then YOU have to explain yourself.

Saint DH · 09-21-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DDTempest

This part starts off harmless and gets out of hand fast ... first time one of these kids sends you an inappropriate text then YOU have to explain yourself.

This is how, eventually, Tempest got his name listed on this website Indiana Sex and Violent Offender Registry

Beebs · 09-21-2011, 04:30 PM

I'm not really paranoid about it, one of my biggest examples/influences is the 8th grade girls coach, who interacts with them far more than I do with my kids. He also happens to be a 50 year old former Marine, former Sheriff, and current cop; I figure he knows the system, he's been doing it for over a decade now. This is with 13-14 year old girls too, so I trust that if he is joking around with them, I am more than safe doing the same.

I appreciate the concern, but this isn't my profession, it's something I enjoy the hell out of, and something I'm going to do as I see fit so that the kids get as much out of it as possible and so I can get the enjoyment that comes out of it. I know what I'm doing isn't inappropriate, and can always walk away if somebody has a problem with how I get my kids to grow as players and people.

I've met with all the parents, explained how I interact with the kids, exchanged emails and numbers, and have had friendly conversations with all of them after practices and the like. The consistent feedback I get from the kids is "my parents think you are quiet and nice."

Cocktooth · 09-21-2011, 04:58 PM

In society today, you can't be to careful, that is all I'm saying. Parents have a blame someone other then my kid type of personality. I got fired from my coaching position due to a parent just flat not liking me. I didn't conform to what they wanted, so blamo, find excuses to get rid of him. Of course, this lady is also a teacher at the school, even after being found in an extra marrital affair. Even til this day, I cringe when I get facebook requests from former players.

Ugly Bastard · 09-21-2011, 05:06 PM

Does anybody remember the teacher at WCHS who was girl's basketball coach? I always remember being weirded out by how "close" he seemed with some of the girls on that team. I'd be curious if BDH has anything he could shed on the subject since he dated a girl b-baller.

Beebs · 09-21-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocktooth

In society today, you can't be to careful, that is all I'm saying. Parents have a blame someone other then my kid type of personality. I got fired from my coaching position due to a parent just flat not liking me. I didn't conform to what they wanted, so blamo, find excuses to get rid of him. Of course, this lady is also a teacher at the school, even after being found in an extra marrital affair. Even til this day, I cringe when I get facebook requests from former players.

Yea, I hear you man, it's a shitty situation that has brought society to this point.

thekremlin · 09-21-2011, 05:11 PM

I think you're quiet and nice, too.

Cocktooth · 09-21-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Does anybody remember the teacher at WCHS who was girl's basketball coach? I always remember being weirded out by how "close" he seemed with some of the girls on that team. I'd be curious if BDH has anything he could shed on the subject since he dated a girl b-baller.

I have alot to add from a non bias perspective. BDH will give the story a spin.

Beebs · 09-26-2011, 06:07 PM

I am down to 3 practices; 2 if we lose thursday, kind of sucks.

DJ FC · 09-27-2011, 03:37 PM

I want to watch a game.

How do these kids stand up against the youngsters you played with at Craven Cottage?

Beebs · 09-27-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ FC

I want to watch a game.

How do these kids stand up against the youngsters you played with at Craven Cottage?

Older; those were like 10 year olds I believe. 2 would probably be at an average level dribbling wise, a few more passing wise.

I'd put my keepers up against most players their age not involved in an academy.

Beebs · 09-27-2011, 04:12 PM

At times.

Beebs · 09-29-2011, 08:06 PM

Well; we lost tonight, season is over. My usual right forward got injured early, so we switched to a 4-4-2, which worked ok. My players were playing well most of the game until one of our forwards missed an easy scoring opportunity; after that a lot of them mentally checked out. Promising thing is that the 7th graders we brought up all played well, and were much better mentally.

I just told them afterwords that yes today sucked, and you are going to have to learn to not give up, but today is just today, you will have plenty of more games in your life. They were bummed, but no histrionics.

Heartbreak for the girls; they were undefeated all season, up 1-0 near the end of the game, the keeper takes out the opposition forward in the box, red card, they convert the penalty, goes to a shootout, girls lose.

Best positive of the night; 2 of my kids have game, made out with their girlfriends on the bus ride home.

Ugly Bastard · 09-30-2011, 12:03 AM

The season went by fast.

Saint DH · 09-30-2011, 12:08 AM

Now that you've established yourself as the coach, will you be continue coaching for next season and subsequent seasons? If so, do you plan on doing any off-season conditioning/summer practicing and things like that?

Beebs · 09-30-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Now that you've established yourself as the coach, will you be continue coaching for next season and subsequent seasons? If so, do you plan on doing any off-season conditioning/summer practicing and things like that?

I think I'm going to do it again next year. I can't really do anything with the players through the school during the offseason, but I could coach a club team, something I am considering doing. A friend and former teammate of mine wants to coach and I might coach together with him.

The 7th grade class would be fun to coach as 8th graders; the group is more disciplined in terms of personality, but there are some very talented players. Maybe they will grow before next year, but they all seem quite a bit smaller than the 8th graders, except one very big kid who is also pretty good technically, he was often the best defender when he moved up to play with us this year.

I think next year would be smoother since the kids already know me and I already know them, although this year was very fun having a bunch of wild animals, I think every team needs some of that so the kids feel more comfortable and genuinely invested once they trust you to let them have more freedom than usual.

Doing this really helped my mental health in a lot of ways, and I'll always be thankful to the kids and the people who helped me do it.

It will be fun to see this group of kids outside of a coach player situation and as they mature, because they are quite funny. It will also be interesting to see how they do in high school; My 3 forwards are ready to be starters for the JV team, as is my Keeper, especially since the current JV keeper just started playing it this year and isn't particularly physically gifted. One of the forwards also plays keeper for his club team and could be a very good keeper in high school if that is what he wants to do; the forward isn't quite as commanding in the box while dealing with crosses and organizing his defense and he needs to fill out his tall skinny frame, but he is a bit more athletic and maybe a better shot stopper. My best midfielder has the technical ability and stamina to be a leading player as well, but he needs to grow some more physically.

It will be interesting to see how they take to the more structured and firmer discipline of high school, a few kids are going to have serious problems unless they mature mentally by next year. As a rule the freedom I gave them was usually rewarded by listening to me when I really needed it, but sometimes I just couldn't reign them in, a problem this group has had throughout the years I am told, although they were better for me I think because I'm not the yelling and screaming type. Today though they really gave up after we missed a clear cut scoring chance that would have got us back in the game; after that and the early injury of one of our starting forwards, plus the loss to this team before, there was some bickering with each other and a sense of giving up. They are young though, and I am proud of how they played all year; very attacking, much more technical and tactically advanced than most other teams, and generally getting them more ready for high school.

Beebs · 09-30-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

The season went by fast.

It really did, but it also changed so quickly; from never having coached before with a bunch of kids who don't know me, to knowing all of their personalities, lives outside of the game, watching them come together.

Just looking over this, it's something I would like to do again.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 09-30-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

It will be fun to see this group of kids outside of a coach player situation and as they mature, because they are quite funny.

Plus you can fuck them in their assholes. Be carelful what you wish for though. They'll mature really quickly, and so will go their fine milky white thighs.

Beebs · 09-30-2011, 11:14 AM

What about the mexicans?

Beebs · 01-24-2012, 10:51 PM

Mother fucker. I just typed a fucking novel on why Clint Dempsey is outperforming Gareth Bale at nominally the same job.

I hit "go advanced" but was logged out because it took so long, hopefully it can be rescued with this link somehow; Gaz?
http://www.nubblies.net/forums/newre...treply&t=18233

Anyway; the tl;dr was Bale needs to either move back to the outside left, where he was last year, move better off the ball like Dempsey, or probably the quickest way to succeed is switch to the right side if he wants to try to be the new Ronaldo.

Orgazmo · 01-24-2012, 11:21 PM

I'm afraid there's no saving it from that link. Apologies, sir. I know that is quite frustrating.

Beebs · 01-25-2012, 12:23 AM

Not sure if even I want to read all the tactical obsessery again.

DJ FC · 01-25-2012, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebs

Mother fucker. I just typed a fucking novel on why Clint Dempsey is outperforming Gareth Bale at nominally the same job.

I hit "go advanced" but was logged out because it took so long, hopefully it can be rescued with this link somehow; Gaz?
http://www.nubblies.net/forums/newre...treply&t=18233

Anyway; the tl;dr was Bale needs to either move back to the outside left, where he was last year, move better off the ball like Dempsey, or probably the quickest way to succeed is switch to the right side if he wants to try to be the new Ronaldo.

What the hell are you talking about?

The exciting thing about Bale is he's still improving. He actually scores now. When's the last time Dempsey scored a goal like this one (from last Saturday's match vs. Manchester City):

Gareth Bale Amazing Goal vs Manchester City - 22.01.2012 - YouTube

09-21-2011, 10:36 AM	#51 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	Yeah, be careful on the texting. The Coach/Player relationship these days can't be taken outside of the court/field etc. There are to many situations that can arise that you don't want to be a part of. I was told on my first day on the job, under no circumstances do you text,call, or offer to take a student home. You might be trying to do the right thing, but in a situation like that, it's their word vs. yours. All it takes is one upset parent to start a war.
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09-21-2011, 04:58 PM	#56 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	In society today, you can't be to careful, that is all I'm saying. Parents have a blame someone other then my kid type of personality. I got fired from my coaching position due to a parent just flat not liking me. I didn't conform to what they wanted, so blamo, find excuses to get rid of him. Of course, this lady is also a teacher at the school, even after being found in an extra marrital affair. Even til this day, I cringe when I get facebook requests from former players.
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

09-27-2011, 03:37 PM	#62 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	I want to watch a game. How do these kids stand up against the youngsters you played with at Craven Cottage?
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09-21-2011, 10:52 AM	#52 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	All I'm texting is either laughing at something they send, or telling them good game or what jerseys to wear.

09-21-2011, 04:30 PM	#55 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	I'm not really paranoid about it, one of my biggest examples/influences is the 8th grade girls coach, who interacts with them far more than I do with my kids. He also happens to be a 50 year old former Marine, former Sheriff, and current cop; I figure he knows the system, he's been doing it for over a decade now. This is with 13-14 year old girls too, so I trust that if he is joking around with them, I am more than safe doing the same. I appreciate the concern, but this isn't my profession, it's something I enjoy the hell out of, and something I'm going to do as I see fit so that the kids get as much out of it as possible and so I can get the enjoyment that comes out of it. I know what I'm doing isn't inappropriate, and can always walk away if somebody has a problem with how I get my kids to grow as players and people. I've met with all the parents, explained how I interact with the kids, exchanged emails and numbers, and have had friendly conversations with all of them after practices and the like. The consistent feedback I get from the kids is "my parents think you are quiet and nice."

09-21-2011, 05:06 PM	#57 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Does anybody remember the teacher at WCHS who was girl's basketball coach? I always remember being weirded out by how "close" he seemed with some of the girls on that team. I'd be curious if BDH has anything he could shed on the subject since he dated a girl b-baller.

09-21-2011, 05:11 PM	#59 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	I think you're quiet and nice, too.

09-26-2011, 06:07 PM	#61 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	I am down to 3 practices; 2 if we lose thursday, kind of sucks.

09-27-2011, 04:12 PM	#64 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	At times.

09-29-2011, 08:06 PM	#65 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Well; we lost tonight, season is over. My usual right forward got injured early, so we switched to a 4-4-2, which worked ok. My players were playing well most of the game until one of our forwards missed an easy scoring opportunity; after that a lot of them mentally checked out. Promising thing is that the 7th graders we brought up all played well, and were much better mentally. I just told them afterwords that yes today sucked, and you are going to have to learn to not give up, but today is just today, you will have plenty of more games in your life. They were bummed, but no histrionics. Heartbreak for the girls; they were undefeated all season, up 1-0 near the end of the game, the keeper takes out the opposition forward in the box, red card, they convert the penalty, goes to a shootout, girls lose. Best positive of the night; 2 of my kids have game, made out with their girlfriends on the bus ride home.

09-30-2011, 12:03 AM	#66 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	The season went by fast.

09-30-2011, 12:08 AM	#67 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,150 Internets: 284753	Now that you've established yourself as the coach, will you be continue coaching for next season and subsequent seasons? If so, do you plan on doing any off-season conditioning/summer practicing and things like that?

09-30-2011, 11:14 AM	#71 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	What about the mexicans?

01-24-2012, 10:51 PM	#72 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Mother fucker. I just typed a fucking novel on why Clint Dempsey is outperforming Gareth Bale at nominally the same job. I hit "go advanced" but was logged out because it took so long, hopefully it can be rescued with this link somehow; Gaz? http://www.nubblies.net/forums/newre...treply&t=18233 Anyway; the tl;dr was Bale needs to either move back to the outside left, where he was last year, move better off the ball like Dempsey, or probably the quickest way to succeed is switch to the right side if he wants to try to be the new Ronaldo.

01-24-2012, 11:21 PM	#73 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,733 Internets: 311447	I'm afraid there's no saving it from that link. Apologies, sir. I know that is quite frustrating.

01-25-2012, 12:23 AM	#74 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Not sure if even I want to read all the tactical obsessery again.