I'm registering as a Democrat - Nubblies.net Forums

Pliedes · 11-18-2003, 08:39 PM

Yes, you read it correctly. I, Pliedes, the far right conservative, am going to register as a Democrat for the 2004 election.

Why, you ask?

Let me explain something first.

Being the President of the United States is one of the toughest jobs around, and with the job comes countless choices. Now, many of these choices are policy issues (abortion, taxes, spending, etc) but many of them, are not. Every politican has their handbag of ideals and stances, but a big part of the job of the President is so much more than simply a left or right stance on an issue.

I think George W. Bush is a great example of this, and I would be content if he was elected to another term.

But what if he isn't?

I'm going to register as a Democrat in order to vote in their primary. I look at the field of Democrats, and sure, they all have their stance on issues, but who would I was in the Oval Office?

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I would like this man, Wesley Clark.

Info on Wesley Clark - (only partial info)
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He went to West Point at the age of 17 and graduated at the top of his class in 1966. He also earned a Master's Degree in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics from Oxford University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar.

From 1997 through May of 2000, General Clark was NATO Supreme Allied Commander and Commander in Chief of the United States European Command. In this position, General Clark led Operation Allied Force, NATO's first major combat action, which saved 1.5 million Albanians from ethnic cleansing in Kosovo.

In the summer of 2000, General Clark joined Stephens Group, Inc., and served as a Managing Director for the financial services firm from March, 2001, through February, 2003. He was most recently chairman of Wesley K. Clark & Associates, a strategic advisory and consulting firm. He is the former Chairman of the Board of WaveCrest Laboratories, a firm developing a breakthrough electric propulsion system. He also founded Leadership for America, a non-partisan, not-for-profit organization dedicated to fostering the conversation about America's future.

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I've watched countless interviews and debates with all the candidates, and Wesley Clark is the only one I really trust. He actually seems like a sincere person who hasn't been too polluted by Washington politics. He has proved his leadership time and time again, and I would feel comfortable with him leading America.

I look at the other field of Democratic challengers, and I don't really see anyone else I would be content with representing me. Howard Dean, who is the current frontrunner, really bothers me. He seems like too much of a politician. I just don't find him to be a very sincere person.

Regardless of if you want all the jazz in Iraq to be done right now or you believe in staying as long as necessary, Clark is the right guy to finish it up. He has already been through such a thing when he led troops in Kosovo and all over the Balkans during the Clinton Administration.

In 2004, I'm honestly going to register as a Democrat. I want to ensure that Clark gets the Democratic nomination, that way I will feel confortable with America's leadership no matter who wins.

[ November 18, 2003, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Pliedes ]

Ugly Bastard · 11-18-2003, 08:49 PM

Not a bad idea pliedes.

You may have an ugly bastard joining you on this expedition.

-Ugly Bastard

Pliedes · 11-18-2003, 11:11 PM

It's really a good idea. Honestly, I'm not to worried about Bush not being the Republican nominee, so I may as well pick the Democrat I'd like.

Ugly Bastard · 11-18-2003, 11:12 PM

Yeah, I'm not going to vote for the Democrat I like, but rather the Democrat I think has the least chance of beating Bush (but still a decent chance of getting the Demo bid).

-Ugly Bastard

Pliedes · 11-18-2003, 11:19 PM

The Democratic nominee will either be Dean or Clark. I think they both don't stand a very good chance of beating Bush, but just in case something happens, I want Clark in there.

Dean just really bothers me.

Me Gustan Nalgas · 11-19-2003, 12:18 AM

Pliedes, although I am definitely not as conservative in my thinking as you, I would count myself as a pretty hardcore Republican. This plan is actually one of the best I've heard from you... kudos my man. I have to register here pretty soon, and I may just have to do that. Clark seems like a pretty straight shooter, not to mention he's former military, which makes him a-ok in my book. Clark has my preliminary vote

Pliedes · 11-19-2003, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by Me Gustan Nalgas:
Pliedes, although I am definitely not as conservative in my thinking as you,

You'd actually be quite surprised.
When you're back in town we'll have to talk some politics, just for shits and giggles.

Hank · 11-19-2003, 02:14 AM

I think I'd just feel dirty registering as a democrat, no matter what the reasoning behing it is.

Cocktooth · 11-19-2003, 04:21 AM

haha all you republicans....plotting already....its cute...it really is....

Me Gustan Nalgas · 11-19-2003, 12:38 PM

Pliedes, unless your political ideology has chancged since we were in AP Government last year together, I don't think there's any way I can match up to you. As for Shaw, our thinking has always been our do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as we can make a name for ourselves as ingenious voters, no matter how many friends we lose or people we leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long as we can make a name for ourselves as ingenious voter, no matter how many friends we lose or people we leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?

Pliedes · 11-19-2003, 12:55 PM

We didn't cover a lot of stuff in AP Gov. If you're refering to mock-Senate thing though, well, I just wanted to win (and boy did we).

Shaw, MeGustan basically just laid out our strategic goals right there...

Cocktooth · 11-19-2003, 12:58 PM

oh well that is good to know...doesnt matter who is best for our country just as long as your guy gets in there huh!!!! and if we keep a republican in office they are going to be ruining ALOT more lives then what they already did

Pliedes · 11-19-2003, 02:48 PM

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Fruitacious B · 11-19-2003, 10:42 PM

Oh, oh, oh. I know! I know!! .................sextuple?

Oh and since this is about politics and such. Pliedes, what's going on with the "War In Iraq" thread? I was all geared for the debate, but it's become dormant.

[ November 19, 2003, 08:02 PM: Message edited by: Fruitacious B ]

Pliedes · 11-21-2003, 01:16 AM

That was a nice bump, fruit.

Ugly Bastard · 11-21-2003, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by Shaw:
haha all you republicans....plotting already....its cute...it really is....

I know I'm way late on this comment...but I must admit that this comment did make me fart. Nice work.

-Ugly Bastard

f3lix · 12-03-2003, 01:30 PM

Do you mean select to vote democratic in the primary, or actually register (pay money for a year membership) with the democratic party? I vote Repub in my primary, b/c Libertarians don't have a primary to vote in, but I don't have to be registered.

Ugly Bastard · 12-03-2003, 01:39 PM

I'm pretty sure he means just registering as a Democrat when it comes time to vote in the primary.

-Ugly Bastard

Pliedes · 12-03-2003, 04:05 PM

You have to declare a party in order to vote in primaries, so I'm declaring myself a democrat. When it comes time to vote, I can choose whoever my little heart desires.

11-19-2003, 12:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
Me Gustan Nalgas Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: warsaw is where i\'m from, annapois is where i am Posts: 136 Internets: 29	Pliedes, although I am definitely not as conservative in my thinking as you, I would count myself as a pretty hardcore Republican. This plan is actually one of the best I've heard from you... kudos my man. I have to register here pretty soon, and I may just have to do that. Clark seems like a pretty straight shooter, not to mention he's former military, which makes him a-ok in my book. Clark has my preliminary vote
	:.:.: Me Gustan Nalgas :.:.:

11-19-2003, 02:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hank Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 175 Internets: 229	I think I'd just feel dirty registering as a democrat, no matter what the reasoning behing it is.
	Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can ever turn it into a fact.<br />-Balzac

11-19-2003, 04:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	haha all you republicans....plotting already....its cute...it really is....
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

11-19-2003, 12:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Me Gustan Nalgas Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: warsaw is where i\'m from, annapois is where i am Posts: 136 Internets: 29	Pliedes, unless your political ideology has chancged since we were in AP Government last year together, I don't think there's any way I can match up to you. As for Shaw, our thinking has always been our do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as we can make a name for ourselves as ingenious voters, no matter how many friends we lose or people we leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long as we can make a name for ourselves as ingenious voter, no matter how many friends we lose or people we leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?
	:.:.: Me Gustan Nalgas :.:.:

11-19-2003, 12:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	oh well that is good to know...doesnt matter who is best for our country just as long as your guy gets in there huh!!!! and if we keep a republican in office they are going to be ruining ALOT more lives then what they already did
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

11-18-2003, 08:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	Yes, you read it correctly. I, Pliedes, the far right conservative, am going to register as a Democrat for the 2004 election. Why, you ask? Let me explain something first. Being the President of the United States is one of the toughest jobs around, and with the job comes countless choices. Now, many of these choices are policy issues (abortion, taxes, spending, etc) but many of them, are not. Every politican has their handbag of ideals and stances, but a big part of the job of the President is so much more than simply a left or right stance on an issue. I think George W. Bush is a great example of this, and I would be content if he was elected to another term. But what if he isn't? I'm going to register as a Democrat in order to vote in their primary. I look at the field of Democrats, and sure, they all have their stance on issues, but who would I was in the Oval Office? - - - - - - - - - - - I would like this man, Wesley Clark. Info on Wesley Clark - (only partial info) ------------------------------------------- He went to West Point at the age of 17 and graduated at the top of his class in 1966. He also earned a Master's Degree in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics from Oxford University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar. From 1997 through May of 2000, General Clark was NATO Supreme Allied Commander and Commander in Chief of the United States European Command. In this position, General Clark led Operation Allied Force, NATO's first major combat action, which saved 1.5 million Albanians from ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. In the summer of 2000, General Clark joined Stephens Group, Inc., and served as a Managing Director for the financial services firm from March, 2001, through February, 2003. He was most recently chairman of Wesley K. Clark & Associates, a strategic advisory and consulting firm. He is the former Chairman of the Board of WaveCrest Laboratories, a firm developing a breakthrough electric propulsion system. He also founded Leadership for America, a non-partisan, not-for-profit organization dedicated to fostering the conversation about America's future. specific stance on issues ------------------------------------------- I've watched countless interviews and debates with all the candidates, and Wesley Clark is the only one I really trust. He actually seems like a sincere person who hasn't been too polluted by Washington politics. He has proved his leadership time and time again, and I would feel comfortable with him leading America. I look at the other field of Democratic challengers, and I don't really see anyone else I would be content with representing me. Howard Dean, who is the current frontrunner, really bothers me. He seems like too much of a politician. I just don't find him to be a very sincere person. Regardless of if you want all the jazz in Iraq to be done right now or you believe in staying as long as necessary, Clark is the right guy to finish it up. He has already been through such a thing when he led troops in Kosovo and all over the Balkans during the Clinton Administration. In 2004, I'm honestly going to register as a Democrat. I want to ensure that Clark gets the Democratic nomination, that way I will feel confortable with America's leadership no matter who wins. [ November 18, 2003, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Pliedes ]

11-18-2003, 08:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Not a bad idea pliedes. You may have an ugly bastard joining you on this expedition. -Ugly Bastard

11-18-2003, 11:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	It's really a good idea. Honestly, I'm not to worried about Bush not being the Republican nominee, so I may as well pick the Democrat I'd like.

11-18-2003, 11:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Yeah, I'm not going to vote for the Democrat I like, but rather the Democrat I think has the least chance of beating Bush (but still a decent chance of getting the Demo bid). -Ugly Bastard

11-18-2003, 11:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	The Democratic nominee will either be Dean or Clark. I think they both don't stand a very good chance of beating Bush, but just in case something happens, I want Clark in there. Dean just really bothers me.

11-19-2003, 12:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	We didn't cover a lot of stuff in AP Gov. If you're refering to mock-Senate thing though, well, I just wanted to win (and boy did we). Shaw, MeGustan basically just laid out our strategic goals right there...

11-19-2003, 02:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	a____________________lot

11-19-2003, 10:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	Oh, oh, oh. I know! I know!! .................sextuple? Oh and since this is about politics and such. Pliedes, what's going on with the "War In Iraq" thread? I was all geared for the debate, but it's become dormant. [ November 19, 2003, 08:02 PM: Message edited by: Fruitacious B ]
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

11-21-2003, 01:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	That was a nice bump, fruit.

12-03-2003, 01:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Do you mean select to vote democratic in the primary, or actually register (pay money for a year membership) with the democratic party? I vote Repub in my primary, b/c Libertarians don't have a primary to vote in, but I don't have to be registered.

12-03-2003, 01:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I'm pretty sure he means just registering as a Democrat when it comes time to vote in the primary. -Ugly Bastard

12-03-2003, 04:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	You have to declare a party in order to vote in primaries, so I'm declaring myself a democrat. When it comes time to vote, I can choose whoever my little heart desires.