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05-05-2010, 11:44 PM
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Query: Now that homosexuality in many places is considered an acceptable lifelong primary lifestyle, and men and women who are at heart, homosexuals, are not pressured by society to marry and conceive offspring, is it possible that within 100 years homosexuality will begin to decline, as their genetic material is not being carried into future generations?
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05-06-2010, 12:09 AM
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And in all honesty at this point in my life, I don't care one way or the other. If they were born that way, or if it were their decision to be gay. I really do not care one way or the other. Will we see a decline? I think the above question is the most relevent... if it is a genetically caused condition, possibly. BUT we've had gay folks forever. Is it really that much more prevalent now than before, or is it just more "open" now since it's not as taboo? | |
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05-06-2010, 12:33 AM
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Query: Are there members on this board who seriously think that homosexuality is a learned behavior; a choice?
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Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing.
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05-06-2010, 12:39 AM
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I make bad decisions.
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I honestly see both sides of it.
I naturally lean toward the thought that people are born gay, but I don't always feel that is the case. EDIT: Not so much that it can be a learned behavior, but more so a choice. I feel that this is the MINORITY of the cases though. |
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05-06-2010, 12:54 AM
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The folks marching in parades, fighting for equal legal rights, and gay marriage: Probably born gay. drunk girls making out with other drunk girls, probably a fair amount of bisexuals, and people "experimenting" in college: Probably a choice. | |
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05-06-2010, 01:41 AM
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It's both. You can be genetically more inclined to homosexuality than somebody else.
So in that sense, I would say yes it's likely that if we were at a state where homosexuality was as perfectly accepted as heterosexuality you'd see a decrease in the homosexual tendencies in the gene pool (on the margin). But I doubt we've reached that point. |
 The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them. |
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05-06-2010, 02:31 AM
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Homosexuality is a mental disorder, obviously. Therefore I'd have to contend that one is likely genetically predisposed to develop this disease, but environmental factors also clearly play a significant role.
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05-06-2010, 03:50 AM
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Certain traits predispose people to homosexuality. All human traits are genetic. | |
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The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them. |
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05-06-2010, 07:34 AM
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A: Homos.
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05-06-2010, 09:28 AM
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+1 on DJ FC's generic predisposition theory. Everyone has a certain propensity to become gay, some more than others, and based on events in your life you either choose to self-identify as being gay at some point or don't.
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05-06-2010, 06:02 PM
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05-06-2010, 06:09 PM
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Based on the logic Blonde is using, that's not exactly correct. I think Blonde is saying that closet homos probably used to have children in hetero marriages because they were too afraid of what society would say if they came out of the closet. Now that there's less social reason to remain in the closet, these facade hetero marriages that produce children will decline.
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05-06-2010, 09:51 PM
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It probably has already started, yes, but there are still a large amount of people who have a "gay predisposition" in the hetero population. How many of you have friends or acquaintances who you're 100% sure are gay, but they insist they're straight? (cough cough) Societal influence is still a pretty big deal for a lot of people, especially those who don't live in liberal areas.
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Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing.
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05-06-2010, 10:45 PM
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ID, if you came out of the closet, I would be think, "Hmm, makes sense."
That said, if your next post was a picture of a girl you had been seeing for the last year and just hadn't brought it up, I'd think, "Oh, cool. Good for him." In other words, you're a sexual coinflip in my mind. So what is it, buddy? Heads or tails? |
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05-06-2010, 10:57 PM
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No.
I have a friend who is a hairdresser, talks with a lisp, is incredibly thin and tidy, plays in a gay softball league, and insists he's not gay. When he first told me he was straight I was like "haha! nice one!" then when I realized he was being serious I was like "oh... sorry dude." |
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05-06-2010, 10:59 PM
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He thinks he's straight...but he's gay.
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Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing.
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