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Mr. Blonde · 05-05-2010, 11:44 PM

Query: Now that homosexuality in many places is considered an acceptable lifelong primary lifestyle, and men and women who are at heart, homosexuals, are not pressured by society to marry and conceive offspring, is it possible that within 100 years homosexuality will begin to decline, as their genetic material is not being carried into future generations?

Orgazmo · 05-05-2010, 11:58 PM

Query: Is homosexuality a result of nature or nurture?

SittinOnDubsWGW · 05-06-2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Orgazmo

Query: Is homosexuality a result of nature or nurture?

Only reason I have been fine with the gays forever. What if they were born that way?

And in all honesty at this point in my life, I don't care one way or the other. If they were born that way, or if it were their decision to be gay. I really do not care one way or the other.

Will we see a decline? I think the above question is the most relevent... if it is a genetically caused condition, possibly. BUT we've had gay folks forever. Is it really that much more prevalent now than before, or is it just more "open" now since it's not as taboo?

Mr. Blonde · 05-06-2010, 12:33 AM

Query: Are there members on this board who seriously think that homosexuality is a learned behavior; a choice?

SittinOnDubsWGW · 05-06-2010, 12:39 AM

I honestly see both sides of it.

I naturally lean toward the thought that people are born gay, but I don't always feel that is the case.

EDIT: Not so much that it can be a learned behavior, but more so a choice. I feel that this is the MINORITY of the cases though.

Mr. Blonde · 05-06-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SittinOnDubsWGW

EDIT: Not so much that it can be a learned behavior, but more so a choice. I feel that this is the MINORITY of the cases though.

I can agree with you here. I guess what it really comes down to, if we can generalize for the sake of the thread:

The folks marching in parades, fighting for equal legal rights, and gay marriage: Probably born gay.

drunk girls making out with other drunk girls, probably a fair amount of bisexuals, and people "experimenting" in college: Probably a choice.

vaga1220 * · 05-06-2010, 01:00 AM

It's a fetish imo. does anyone chose their fetishes? Or are they born with them?

DJ FC · 05-06-2010, 01:41 AM

It's both. You can be genetically more inclined to homosexuality than somebody else.

So in that sense, I would say yes it's likely that if we were at a state where homosexuality was as perfectly accepted as heterosexuality you'd see a decrease in the homosexual tendencies in the gene pool (on the margin). But I doubt we've reached that point.

f3lix · 05-06-2010, 02:13 AM

For the genetic argument, I'd like to see research done on the children of those who came out of the closet after having kids.

Der Fuhrer · 05-06-2010, 02:31 AM

Homosexuality is a mental disorder, obviously. Therefore I'd have to contend that one is likely genetically predisposed to develop this disease, but environmental factors also clearly play a significant role.

DJ FC · 05-06-2010, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

For the genetic argument, I'd like to see research done on the children of those who came out of the closet after having kids.

On the margin F3lix, on the margin.

Certain traits predispose people to homosexuality.

All human traits are genetic.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 05-06-2010, 06:30 AM

Queery: What's my penis for?

Mr. Blonde · 05-06-2010, 07:34 AM

A: Homos.

Q.E.D.

Repugnant Abomination · 05-06-2010, 08:48 AM

It's obviously a choice. I know any of you would enjoy getting reamed in the ass, but that'd be gay so you choose not to.

Ugly Bastard · 05-06-2010, 09:28 AM

+1 on DJ FC's generic predisposition theory. Everyone has a certain propensity to become gay, some more than others, and based on events in your life you either choose to self-identify as being gay at some point or don't.

Beebs · 05-06-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

is it possible that within 100 years homosexuality will begin to decline, as their genetic material is not being carried into future generations?

That shouldn't make a difference either way; their genetic material was never being carried into future generations.

Ugly Bastard · 05-06-2010, 06:09 PM

Based on the logic Blonde is using, that's not exactly correct. I think Blonde is saying that closet homos probably used to have children in hetero marriages because they were too afraid of what society would say if they came out of the closet. Now that there's less social reason to remain in the closet, these facade hetero marriages that produce children will decline.

Beebs · 05-06-2010, 06:19 PM

Follows logic, but it would likely have started to happen already if it is going to.

Mr. Blonde · 05-06-2010, 09:51 PM

It probably has already started, yes, but there are still a large amount of people who have a "gay predisposition" in the hetero population. How many of you have friends or acquaintances who you're 100% sure are gay, but they insist they're straight? (cough cough) Societal influence is still a pretty big deal for a lot of people, especially those who don't live in liberal areas.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 05-06-2010, 10:26 PM

Do you guys think I'm gay?

Orgazmo · 05-06-2010, 10:45 PM

ID, if you came out of the closet, I would be think, "Hmm, makes sense."

That said, if your next post was a picture of a girl you had been seeing for the last year and just hadn't brought it up, I'd think, "Oh, cool. Good for him."

In other words, you're a sexual coinflip in my mind.

So what is it, buddy? Heads or tails?

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 05-06-2010, 10:56 PM

Tails.

Orgazmo · 05-06-2010, 10:56 PM

HOMO!

Ugly Bastard · 05-06-2010, 10:57 PM

No.

I have a friend who is a hairdresser, talks with a lisp, is incredibly thin and tidy, plays in a gay softball league, and insists he's not gay. When he first told me he was straight I was like "haha! nice one!" then when I realized he was being serious I was like "oh... sorry dude."

Mr. Blonde · 05-06-2010, 10:59 PM

He thinks he's straight...but he's gay.

05-05-2010, 11:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
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05-06-2010, 12:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Query: Are there members on this board who seriously think that homosexuality is a learned behavior; a choice?
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

05-06-2010, 12:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
SittinOnDubsWGW I make bad decisions. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Desert Posts: 3,018 Internets: 108015	I honestly see both sides of it. I naturally lean toward the thought that people are born gay, but I don't always feel that is the case. EDIT: Not so much that it can be a learned behavior, but more so a choice. I feel that this is the MINORITY of the cases though.
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05-06-2010, 01:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
vaga1220 * *Dislikes ham Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: HELL 666 Posts: 1,518 Internets: 60790	It's a fetish imo. does anyone chose their fetishes? Or are they born with them?
	Putting the sensual in non-consensual.

05-06-2010, 01:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 250185	It's both. You can be genetically more inclined to homosexuality than somebody else. So in that sense, I would say yes it's likely that if we were at a state where homosexuality was as perfectly accepted as heterosexuality you'd see a decrease in the homosexual tendencies in the gene pool (on the margin). But I doubt we've reached that point.
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05-05-2010, 11:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,699 Internets: 305662	Query: Is homosexuality a result of nature or nurture?

05-06-2010, 02:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	For the genetic argument, I'd like to see research done on the children of those who came out of the closet after having kids.

05-06-2010, 02:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Der Fuhrer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 549 Internets: 5464	Homosexuality is a mental disorder, obviously. Therefore I'd have to contend that one is likely genetically predisposed to develop this disease, but environmental factors also clearly play a significant role.
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05-06-2010, 06:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,316 Internets: 284585	Queery: What's my penis for?
	#YOLO

05-06-2010, 07:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	A: Homos. Q.E.D.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

05-06-2010, 08:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 161638	It's obviously a choice. I know any of you would enjoy getting reamed in the ass, but that'd be gay so you choose not to.

05-06-2010, 09:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	+1 on DJ FC's generic predisposition theory. Everyone has a certain propensity to become gay, some more than others, and based on events in your life you either choose to self-identify as being gay at some point or don't.

05-06-2010, 06:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Based on the logic Blonde is using, that's not exactly correct. I think Blonde is saying that closet homos probably used to have children in hetero marriages because they were too afraid of what society would say if they came out of the closet. Now that there's less social reason to remain in the closet, these facade hetero marriages that produce children will decline.

05-06-2010, 06:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Follows logic, but it would likely have started to happen already if it is going to.

05-06-2010, 09:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	It probably has already started, yes, but there are still a large amount of people who have a "gay predisposition" in the hetero population. How many of you have friends or acquaintances who you're 100% sure are gay, but they insist they're straight? (cough cough) Societal influence is still a pretty big deal for a lot of people, especially those who don't live in liberal areas.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

05-06-2010, 10:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,316 Internets: 284585	Do you guys think I'm gay?
	#YOLO

05-06-2010, 10:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,699 Internets: 305662	ID, if you came out of the closet, I would be think, "Hmm, makes sense." That said, if your next post was a picture of a girl you had been seeing for the last year and just hadn't brought it up, I'd think, "Oh, cool. Good for him." In other words, you're a sexual coinflip in my mind. So what is it, buddy? Heads or tails?

05-06-2010, 10:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,316 Internets: 284585	Tails.
	#YOLO

05-06-2010, 10:56 PM	#23 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,699 Internets: 305662	HOMO!

05-06-2010, 10:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	No. I have a friend who is a hairdresser, talks with a lisp, is incredibly thin and tidy, plays in a gay softball league, and insists he's not gay. When he first told me he was straight I was like "haha! nice one!" then when I realized he was being serious I was like "oh... sorry dude."

05-06-2010, 10:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	He thinks he's straight...but he's gay.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna