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ProfessorNumber · 12-08-2003, 08:56 PM

Is cheating in school wrong? I got into a debate with someone today over it, where I said that cheating under most circumstances is actually beneficial. Yes, I know that it sounds like I'm trying to justify my current lifestyle, but keep reading and you might just find something you agree with.

Lets take a look at some of the benefits/reasons for cheating.

1. Allows you to spend less time preparing, and more time being lazy.

2. It's pointless to put too much effort into a class that will never benefit you.

3. When teachers give too much work, or expect too much from you, why not cheat? Seriously, when a {fill in other useless class here} teacher gives a pointlessly hard quiz everyday and plenty of homework to boot, I feel no qualms over cheating.

4. Cheating gives you that extra edge, allowing you to get as good grades as someone who works many times harder than you.

In all seriousness, it actually takes someone smart to cheat. Not necessarily book smart, but "real-life" smart. You have to be smart as to how and when you cheat. For instance, if you cheat on a test, and find yourself stuck later on in life, then you screwed up. The key to cheating is knowing how and when to do it. If you are intelligent enough to cheat on a test, and not have it come back to kick you in the ass, then you've won. Cheating in highschool is actually beneficial in some ways. It teaches you an important life lesson: when there is any easy way out, you should consider taking it. Given, this may sound hypocritical coming from me (the defender of record sales), but I think there is validity to it. Schools do not teach you how to succeed in the real world. Due to this fact, many extremely smart students end up with underpaid jobs that don't utilize their full potential. Cheating in a sense prepares you for the real world, and allows you to maximize your time spent elsewhere.

bert · 12-08-2003, 09:32 PM

alright im goin to have to say that my school life revolves around cheating and quite franking i could give a fuck what anyone says bout it. i have cheated my way through high school and now in college and i continue to cheat. i dont see a reason why i should spend countless amounts of hours looking at a book or studying bout the past when i could care less bout any of it
i have found many ways to cheat and they come in quite handy i must say. here are a couple ways just for those of you who are not really sure how to do it.

1. Blue books- many of you may know what these are but for those of you who dont they are this little pain in the ass blue books that you can barely fit 3 words on a page before having to change pages. well i have managed to steal i considerable amount of these and before a test that i know is goin to use the blue book i will write as many possible answers in it then just set in on my desk and flip through it and you cant tell the difference between the one they handed you and the one with your cheat notes on. must say its one of the best ones.

2. Hat Trick- if i know that the test is not goin to be on a blue book then i have a back up plan to which i open up my handy microsoft word and just start typing away and write as much information that i need that will be on the test. once i am finished i proceed to change the font to bout size 5 or something around there depending on the amount of material that i have written. after i have gotten it to the right size i then print it off and trim it up small enough so i can put it in my baseball cap, right on the inside where their is a flap that you can tuck things in. this one works well also, just take the hat off set it on your knee and you can see the answer from there.

3. Take the test ahead of time- this one as worked for me a couple of times but is difficult to pull off with teachers or professors that pay attention, but what i do is go to class early, say you have the class at 1 but you know that that teacher has the same class earlier in the day well i go to that class at 11 then pick up the test or sit through the class and then at the end just walk out with the test in your pocket then you have the real test for your 1 o'clock there for giving you 2 hours to hurry up and do the test before class.

these are a few ways that i have manage to make my way through school, i have yet to get caught and i am actually preparing the do the blue book cheat later this week for one of my finals.

if anyone has any other ways that they cheat i would like to hear them. hope i have inspired some of you guys to become lazy and cheat more.

[ December 08, 2003, 06:34 PM: Message edited by: bert ]

Cocktooth · 12-08-2003, 09:38 PM

In HS i would wear glasses on test days instead of my contacts cause I could see farther...flat out i just let my eyes wonder...or another good one back in HS was in one of my history classes....we would build up a tower of books and have a book open behind it on the floor...what made this so fun was the teacher, who will remain nameless would walk over...see it...smile and walk away!!!! Great man was he

ProfessorNumber · 12-08-2003, 10:32 PM

Excellent Contributions Bert.

I tend to use primitive methods such as:

1. The classic slip of paper in the sleeve trick. You wear a long sleeve shirt the day of the test, and then tuck a small piece of paper, with answers, in your sleeve. Pull it out when the teacher is not looking.

2. Here is a VERY helpful one if you happen to be taking a typing or document formatting class at WCHS. When you are taking typing tests, and need to reach a certain words per minute level, the software counts the words by the amount of spaces between the words. SO! if you hold down on the space bar for the last 15 seconds of the test, it increases your words per minute by about 20!

3. These days, plaigarism is a major issue, and teachers have software that allows them to detect plaigarism very easily. HOWEVER, they cannot search texts that are not on the web. Therefore, if you really want to cheat on an essay or something similar, go to your library and break out those reading glasses! Books are the key to plaigarizing, because no one will ever know if you did. (generally speaking). Typically, the older the book the better, since there is less chance of it being typed on the web.

3. Math sucks. But, calculators can save you. The key is to program things into your graphing calulator, then pull them up once the test starts. A more primitive version of this, is to slip a piece of paper with formulas on it, between your calculator and its cover.

4. Cliff notes/Spark notes. Never read books if at all possible.

5. Writing answers/formulas on your desk very lightly can actually work, so long as you don't need to remember a whole lot. Otherwise it becomes obvious.

6. As Bert mentioned, bringing in pre-written essays is a very good method.

the Butcher · 12-09-2003, 03:12 AM

Cheating fucking rocks. I have no other way to describe my love for it. Every point made above I agree with, so there is nothing more to say. Cheating fucking rocks. (Just thought I'd add that again)

Pliedes · 12-09-2003, 05:13 PM

I remember once in 8th grade at Lakeview (anyone chime in if they were a part of this) there was a test in Mrs.Wagonner's history class. She had given us the test, with the answers a week before, and naturally, I had copied down the answers. Anyway, the day of the test, we had this speaker from the hospital or something, and he handed out a bunch of free pens. These pens had purple ends on them, but otherwise were clear plastic. So a group of us (about 10 people) disassembled the pens, wrote the answers are a thin, vertical piece of paper, and slid it inside the pen, and then reassembled it. Having the answers right there was amazing.

One of the only other times I've ever cheated was in senior AP Goverment. Mr.Grose would stand at the front and answer questions before the test, and the whole time, he would be holding all the tests and the answer key in his arms the whole time. The very first test he spent so much time talking, that I (who sat at the front) kept getting glances at the test. So, basically, I just memorized the answers in order. Twas amazing. 33 multiple choice answers in a row (was a 50 question test). How I remembered such a long string of a,b,c,d,e's, I'll never know, but it was fun.

12-08-2003, 08:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
ProfessorNumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,215 Internets: 3373	Is cheating in school wrong? I got into a debate with someone today over it, where I said that cheating under most circumstances is actually beneficial. Yes, I know that it sounds like I'm trying to justify my current lifestyle, but keep reading and you might just find something you agree with. Lets take a look at some of the benefits/reasons for cheating. 1. Allows you to spend less time preparing, and more time being lazy. 2. It's pointless to put too much effort into a class that will never benefit you. 3. When teachers give too much work, or expect too much from you, why not cheat? Seriously, when a {fill in other useless class here} teacher gives a pointlessly hard quiz everyday and plenty of homework to boot, I feel no qualms over cheating. 4. Cheating gives you that extra edge, allowing you to get as good grades as someone who works many times harder than you. In all seriousness, it actually takes someone smart to cheat. Not necessarily book smart, but "real-life" smart. You have to be smart as to how and when you cheat. For instance, if you cheat on a test, and find yourself stuck later on in life, then you screwed up. The key to cheating is knowing how and when to do it. If you are intelligent enough to cheat on a test, and not have it come back to kick you in the ass, then you've won. Cheating in highschool is actually beneficial in some ways. It teaches you an important life lesson: when there is any easy way out, you should consider taking it. Given, this may sound hypocritical coming from me (the defender of record sales), but I think there is validity to it. Schools do not teach you how to succeed in the real world. Due to this fact, many extremely smart students end up with underpaid jobs that don't utilize their full potential. Cheating in a sense prepares you for the real world, and allows you to maximize your time spent elsewhere.
	Smoke a cigarette and lie some more -- These conversations kill.

12-08-2003, 09:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	In HS i would wear glasses on test days instead of my contacts cause I could see farther...flat out i just let my eyes wonder...or another good one back in HS was in one of my history classes....we would build up a tower of books and have a book open behind it on the floor...what made this so fun was the teacher, who will remain nameless would walk over...see it...smile and walk away!!!! Great man was he
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12-08-2003, 10:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
ProfessorNumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,215 Internets: 3373	Excellent Contributions Bert. I tend to use primitive methods such as: 1. The classic slip of paper in the sleeve trick. You wear a long sleeve shirt the day of the test, and then tuck a small piece of paper, with answers, in your sleeve. Pull it out when the teacher is not looking. 2. Here is a VERY helpful one if you happen to be taking a typing or document formatting class at WCHS. When you are taking typing tests, and need to reach a certain words per minute level, the software counts the words by the amount of spaces between the words. SO! if you hold down on the space bar for the last 15 seconds of the test, it increases your words per minute by about 20! 3. These days, plaigarism is a major issue, and teachers have software that allows them to detect plaigarism very easily. HOWEVER, they cannot search texts that are not on the web. Therefore, if you really want to cheat on an essay or something similar, go to your library and break out those reading glasses! Books are the key to plaigarizing, because no one will ever know if you did. (generally speaking). Typically, the older the book the better, since there is less chance of it being typed on the web. 3. Math sucks. But, calculators can save you. The key is to program things into your graphing calulator, then pull them up once the test starts. A more primitive version of this, is to slip a piece of paper with formulas on it, between your calculator and its cover. 4. Cliff notes/Spark notes. Never read books if at all possible. 5. Writing answers/formulas on your desk very lightly can actually work, so long as you don't need to remember a whole lot. Otherwise it becomes obvious. 6. As Bert mentioned, bringing in pre-written essays is a very good method.
	Smoke a cigarette and lie some more -- These conversations kill.

12-09-2003, 03:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
the Butcher Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: that one place...you know, with the fire and damnation? oh yeh, hell. Posts: 895 Internets: 10	Cheating fucking rocks. I have no other way to describe my love for it. Every point made above I agree with, so there is nothing more to say. Cheating fucking rocks. (Just thought I'd add that again)
	meet me at the corner of 5th and pontiac. and make sure that no one else is with you, if you wish to see them alive again.

12-08-2003, 09:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
bert Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 314 Internets: 10	alright im goin to have to say that my school life revolves around cheating and quite franking i could give a fuck what anyone says bout it. i have cheated my way through high school and now in college and i continue to cheat. i dont see a reason why i should spend countless amounts of hours looking at a book or studying bout the past when i could care less bout any of it i have found many ways to cheat and they come in quite handy i must say. here are a couple ways just for those of you who are not really sure how to do it. 1. Blue books- many of you may know what these are but for those of you who dont they are this little pain in the ass blue books that you can barely fit 3 words on a page before having to change pages. well i have managed to steal i considerable amount of these and before a test that i know is goin to use the blue book i will write as many possible answers in it then just set in on my desk and flip through it and you cant tell the difference between the one they handed you and the one with your cheat notes on. must say its one of the best ones. 2. Hat Trick- if i know that the test is not goin to be on a blue book then i have a back up plan to which i open up my handy microsoft word and just start typing away and write as much information that i need that will be on the test. once i am finished i proceed to change the font to bout size 5 or something around there depending on the amount of material that i have written. after i have gotten it to the right size i then print it off and trim it up small enough so i can put it in my baseball cap, right on the inside where their is a flap that you can tuck things in. this one works well also, just take the hat off set it on your knee and you can see the answer from there. 3. Take the test ahead of time- this one as worked for me a couple of times but is difficult to pull off with teachers or professors that pay attention, but what i do is go to class early, say you have the class at 1 but you know that that teacher has the same class earlier in the day well i go to that class at 11 then pick up the test or sit through the class and then at the end just walk out with the test in your pocket then you have the real test for your 1 o'clock there for giving you 2 hours to hurry up and do the test before class. these are a few ways that i have manage to make my way through school, i have yet to get caught and i am actually preparing the do the blue book cheat later this week for one of my finals. if anyone has any other ways that they cheat i would like to hear them. hope i have inspired some of you guys to become lazy and cheat more. [ December 08, 2003, 06:34 PM: Message edited by: bert ]

12-09-2003, 05:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	I remember once in 8th grade at Lakeview (anyone chime in if they were a part of this) there was a test in Mrs.Wagonner's history class. She had given us the test, with the answers a week before, and naturally, I had copied down the answers. Anyway, the day of the test, we had this speaker from the hospital or something, and he handed out a bunch of free pens. These pens had purple ends on them, but otherwise were clear plastic. So a group of us (about 10 people) disassembled the pens, wrote the answers are a thin, vertical piece of paper, and slid it inside the pen, and then reassembled it. Having the answers right there was amazing. One of the only other times I've ever cheated was in senior AP Goverment. Mr.Grose would stand at the front and answer questions before the test, and the whole time, he would be holding all the tests and the answer key in his arms the whole time. The very first test he spent so much time talking, that I (who sat at the front) kept getting glances at the test. So, basically, I just memorized the answers in order. Twas amazing. 33 multiple choice answers in a row (was a 50 question test). How I remembered such a long string of a,b,c,d,e's, I'll never know, but it was fun.