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05-09-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deadly Crescent Kick:
i have arrived bitches!

Welcome to nubblies!

Ironic Mustache · 05-09-2005, 03:42 PM

No longer AK I see. Interesting.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-09-2005, 04:45 PM

yeah the fat kid is my buddy joe. he took BJJ for about 2 weeks. that gi actually fit him when he bought it 1.5 years ago and wasn't exactly thin back then...

the front of the fucking gi doesn't even close LOL

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-09-2005, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironic Mustache:
No longer AK I see. Interesting.

AK will always be watching...

Ironic Mustache · 05-09-2005, 04:50 PM

You train with Arty Lang. You should resize that avatar to fit under like 140x140.

Repugnant Abomination · 05-09-2005, 04:51 PM

Yeah make your 'tar smaller....

I'm getting avatar envy.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-09-2005, 04:55 PM

i'll have to resize it once i get home. its almost as big as tray-c's sig pic back in the day.

remember rich w/ that fucking cat's head?

bloodyfart · 05-09-2005, 04:55 PM

i love how picky everyone is on this site.
some of my old gis no longer fit properly. i am too buff now from lifting chocolate bars.

Ironic Mustache · 05-09-2005, 04:56 PM

Gis are gay anyway.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-09-2005, 04:57 PM

no as gay as purple spandex...

bloodyfart · 05-09-2005, 06:33 PM

i rock the spandex cause my junk is so glorious. dont hate my manhood.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-10-2005, 12:31 PM

i tell you one thing that's gay about gis:

holy shit is was hot last night. it was a packed house too. i don't mind rolling in the heat w/ a gi on but we've been getting a flood of newer students from the gym. all the sons of bitches are at LEAST 210lbs. they can't pass my guard thank God. but we have to drill and having these guys on top of you wearing gis is not pleasant.

what's even worse is rolling w/ the guys that may be lighter but know how to hold position.

Ironic Mustache · 05-10-2005, 12:39 PM

Stall you mean? Yeah that's what "holding position" means with a gi.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-10-2005, 01:41 PM

not necessarily. there is a difference between maintaining position and stalling.

stalling would be where i take a position and have no intention of moving from it and no intention of going for a sub.

where as maintaining a position or pinning you'd be looking for a submission. learning how to keep side control/top position is important. with a larger or skilled opponent, you'll have to wear them down before you can catch them. so that means either crushing them from top or staying ahead of their escapes so they get tired, frustrated, or panicked enough to start making mistakes.

Ironic Mustache · 05-10-2005, 02:01 PM

It's a big slumber party and you know it. Let go of the pajamas AK... Let go.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-10-2005, 02:26 PM

no way. i see advantages to both.

i train gi & no gi equally now.

Ironic Mustache · 05-10-2005, 03:15 PM

Well then you're training half assed like one booty cheek.

bloodyfart · 05-10-2005, 04:26 PM

if you want to be a great gi player, then wear the gi. if you want to be a great no gi player, then dont wear the gi. it really is that simple. the two sports are diverging in such a way that in 10 years you will see that they are like the difference between judo and freestyle wrestling.

yes, there will be some crossover, but not how it is now.

Ironic Mustache · 05-10-2005, 05:00 PM

sport jiu jitsu is the ghey

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-10-2005, 05:32 PM

i'm not really concerned w/ competing. i'm more interested in self-defense/vale tudo. and in PA, half the time people are wearing jackets, sweatshirts, etc... so the gi does apply to my situation.

i think the gi is good for everyone for at least the first year of training. it helps slow new guys down so they have to pay attention to detail. when you make a mistake w/ the gi, its very apparent when you fuck up. when you're new, no gi allows you to get away with sloppy technique sometimes without paying for it.

that being said, this is the first year that i've really focused on my no gi and given it equal time (no counting VT classes). its much more difficult in the sense that you're timing and set ups have to be tight. i see my self devoting more time to no gi in the near future as i need to catch my no-gi game to my gi game. i can't control & sub larger guys the way i want to.

bloodyfart · 05-10-2005, 05:45 PM

"i'm not really concerned w/ competing. i'm more interested in self-defense/vale tudo. and in PA, half the time people are wearing jackets, sweatshirts, etc... so the gi does apply to my situation." i agree

" i see my self devoting more time to no gi in the near future as i need to catch my no-gi game to my gi game. i can't control & sub larger guys the way i want to. " you will learn the importance of hooks. they are your best friend in catching guys without the gi.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-10-2005, 06:34 PM

yeah, i know what you mean.

i've been working x guard, 93 guard, butterfly guard, ashy larry guard, etc... i'm trying to drill & roll as much as i can to get fluidity. i've also been working the arm drag a ton.

bloodyfart · 05-10-2005, 06:51 PM

the 93 guard is difficult without the gi. it severly limits your ability to control the pass. i run right through that when people pull it on me, which only gi players do.

the most important things are having double underhooks from all positions on the bottom. and over under from all positions on top. guard exempted in both cases.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 05-11-2005, 11:54 AM

so far, i've only been using 93 guard to transition to x-guard. in which case, i think it serves nicely. many guys try to pass to the open side which actually helps me get to their far leg.

guard passing is pretty frustrating right now too. all my guard passes work no-gi. however, due to a fate, in a 4 month timespan we now have 4 purple belts training at our school. this is heaven for me b/c i'm sick of constantly rolling with my instuctor. a few of them are familiar w/ my passes and are shutting them down. not having gi pants to pass butterfly guard and having to deal w/ hooks has caused me to have refine some of my passes and add some new ones.

this is a major pain in the ass as i consider guard passing one of the better aspects of my game...

bloodyfart · 05-11-2005, 12:35 PM

it will get there. use the stacking pass if you really cant do anything (where you scoop under both his legs, stack him, and pass to one side)

05-09-2005, 03:42 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	No longer AK I see. Interesting.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

05-09-2005, 04:45 PM	#28 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	yeah the fat kid is my buddy joe. he took BJJ for about 2 weeks. that gi actually fit him when he bought it 1.5 years ago and wasn't exactly thin back then... the front of the fucking gi doesn't even close LOL
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-09-2005, 04:50 PM	#30 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	You train with Arty Lang. You should resize that avatar to fit under like 140x140.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

05-09-2005, 04:55 PM	#32 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	i'll have to resize it once i get home. its almost as big as tray-c's sig pic back in the day. remember rich w/ that fucking cat's head?
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-09-2005, 04:55 PM	#33 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	i love how picky everyone is on this site. some of my old gis no longer fit properly. i am too buff now from lifting chocolate bars.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-09-2005, 04:51 PM	#31 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 161638	Yeah make your 'tar smaller.... I'm getting avatar envy.

05-09-2005, 04:56 PM	#34 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	Gis are gay anyway.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

05-09-2005, 04:57 PM	#35 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	no as gay as purple spandex...
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-09-2005, 06:33 PM	#36 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	i rock the spandex cause my junk is so glorious. dont hate my manhood.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-10-2005, 12:31 PM	#37 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	i tell you one thing that's gay about gis: holy shit is was hot last night. it was a packed house too. i don't mind rolling in the heat w/ a gi on but we've been getting a flood of newer students from the gym. all the sons of bitches are at LEAST 210lbs. they can't pass my guard thank God. but we have to drill and having these guys on top of you wearing gis is not pleasant. what's even worse is rolling w/ the guys that may be lighter but know how to hold position.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-10-2005, 12:39 PM	#38 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	Stall you mean? Yeah that's what "holding position" means with a gi.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

05-10-2005, 01:41 PM	#39 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	not necessarily. there is a difference between maintaining position and stalling. stalling would be where i take a position and have no intention of moving from it and no intention of going for a sub. where as maintaining a position or pinning you'd be looking for a submission. learning how to keep side control/top position is important. with a larger or skilled opponent, you'll have to wear them down before you can catch them. so that means either crushing them from top or staying ahead of their escapes so they get tired, frustrated, or panicked enough to start making mistakes.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-10-2005, 02:01 PM	#40 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	It's a big slumber party and you know it. Let go of the pajamas AK... Let go.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

05-10-2005, 02:26 PM	#41 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	no way. i see advantages to both. i train gi & no gi equally now.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-10-2005, 03:15 PM	#42 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	Well then you're training half assed like one booty cheek.
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

05-10-2005, 04:26 PM	#43 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	if you want to be a great gi player, then wear the gi. if you want to be a great no gi player, then dont wear the gi. it really is that simple. the two sports are diverging in such a way that in 10 years you will see that they are like the difference between judo and freestyle wrestling. yes, there will be some crossover, but not how it is now.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-10-2005, 05:00 PM	#44 (permalink)
Ironic Mustache G'd up from the feet up. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 7,146 Supreme Emperor of the Jiu Jitsu Shit Forum?: Yes Internets: 114735	sport jiu jitsu is the ghey
	Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.

05-10-2005, 05:32 PM	#45 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	i'm not really concerned w/ competing. i'm more interested in self-defense/vale tudo. and in PA, half the time people are wearing jackets, sweatshirts, etc... so the gi does apply to my situation. i think the gi is good for everyone for at least the first year of training. it helps slow new guys down so they have to pay attention to detail. when you make a mistake w/ the gi, its very apparent when you fuck up. when you're new, no gi allows you to get away with sloppy technique sometimes without paying for it. that being said, this is the first year that i've really focused on my no gi and given it equal time (no counting VT classes). its much more difficult in the sense that you're timing and set ups have to be tight. i see my self devoting more time to no gi in the near future as i need to catch my no-gi game to my gi game. i can't control & sub larger guys the way i want to.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-10-2005, 05:45 PM	#46 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	"i'm not really concerned w/ competing. i'm more interested in self-defense/vale tudo. and in PA, half the time people are wearing jackets, sweatshirts, etc... so the gi does apply to my situation." i agree " i see my self devoting more time to no gi in the near future as i need to catch my no-gi game to my gi game. i can't control & sub larger guys the way i want to. " you will learn the importance of hooks. they are your best friend in catching guys without the gi.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-10-2005, 06:34 PM	#47 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	yeah, i know what you mean. i've been working x guard, 93 guard, butterfly guard, ashy larry guard, etc... i'm trying to drill & roll as much as i can to get fluidity. i've also been working the arm drag a ton.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-10-2005, 06:51 PM	#48 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	the 93 guard is difficult without the gi. it severly limits your ability to control the pass. i run right through that when people pull it on me, which only gi players do. the most important things are having double underhooks from all positions on the bottom. and over under from all positions on top. guard exempted in both cases.
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>

05-11-2005, 11:54 AM	#49 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	so far, i've only been using 93 guard to transition to x-guard. in which case, i think it serves nicely. many guys try to pass to the open side which actually helps me get to their far leg. guard passing is pretty frustrating right now too. all my guard passes work no-gi. however, due to a fate, in a 4 month timespan we now have 4 purple belts training at our school. this is heaven for me b/c i'm sick of constantly rolling with my instuctor. a few of them are familiar w/ my passes and are shutting them down. not having gi pants to pass butterfly guard and having to deal w/ hooks has caused me to have refine some of my passes and add some new ones. this is a major pain in the ass as i consider guard passing one of the better aspects of my game...
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

05-11-2005, 12:35 PM	#50 (permalink)
bloodyfart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: side control Posts: 2,044 Internets: 203	it will get there. use the stacking pass if you really cant do anything (where you scoop under both his legs, stack him, and pass to one side)
	<b>We're here, and we're queer, so get used to it</b>