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Mr. Blonde · 01-30-2006, 02:40 PM

I may have posted about it a couple times before, basically about 3-4 years ago i hyperextended it (i think) from drunken boxing with a guy bigger than me at the time, (Mish) who unfortunately knew NOTHING about boxing, and he ended up stretching the fuck out of my arm and hyperextending my elbow (i think). I never got it checked out because i'm an idiot, and it's hurt from time to time, mostly during working out, but it's been liveable until recently. I had it X-rayed last year and nothing is wrong w/ the bones, so i'm going into an orthopedic sports medicine place tomorrow to get it checked out (MRI probably), because it's been hurting progressively more.

I'm hoping i'll be able to get by w/ physical therapy or something like that, because if I have surgery, i'm going to be depressed as hell not being able to work out for however long it takes me to heal.

Has anyone had an elbow injury similar to this, and if so, how long did it take to heal (until you could lift again) after treatment? I'm really apprehensive.

If i can't work out for a long period of time, i'm going to be even more insane about working out than I am now once i get back into the swing of things.

malice · 01-30-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

who unfortunately knew NOTHING about boxing

Apparently neither do you.

Mr. Blonde · 01-30-2006, 04:52 PM

You are expected to abide by a certain set of rules when you are boxing, just like you can't travel in basketball, can't use your hands in soccer, etc....when someone bigger than you overpowers you, grabs your arm with both hands and like bends it over his shoulder, there's not much you can do about it.

Repugnant Abomination · 01-30-2006, 05:52 PM

That sucks dude...It's just like when you're grappling someone, they catch you with an armbar and crank it too hard before you can tap. Hurts like a bitch.

01-30-2006, 08:50 PM

I have a congenital defect in my elbows that restricts me from rotating them fully.

I cannot turn my palms upwards with my hands out, or touch my shoulders (with the same arm for each shoulder).

It kind of pisses me off, but doesnt hurt.

Mr. Blonde · 01-30-2006, 09:10 PM

Interesting. I didn't know that. Does it really hinder you from doing anything specific?

migite · 01-30-2006, 09:14 PM

i do and i got it from teaching someone how to throw a jab when the elbow hyperextension happened. it's been about 5 years now and i consider it tendonitis as i have to extend my arm to "click" the ulna and radius back into place otherwise my arm locks out and can be quite painful.

no surgery or rehab as its not that big an issue. i will wear an elbow brace when working out (exercising, bjj and boxing) and ice it if its painful.

01-30-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Interesting. I didn't know that. Does it really hinder you from doing anything specific?

Yes. I cannot hold a fork or spoon properly and look like a caveman when I eat. I'm affraid it's going to hinder my career prospects someday because I eat like a barbarian.

I also cannot hold a tray out in front of me, the way a waiter does. I cannot hold on to a pull up bar the correct way, and my swing in Tennis isn't traditional (but I play anyways).

Hmmm, anytihng else. Oh yeah it's hard as fuck to use chopsticks.

Beebs · 01-30-2006, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Interesting. I didn't know that. Does it really hinder you from doing anything specific?

Find a picture of him giving somebody the finger, now point and laugh at him.

malice · 01-30-2006, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

You are expected to abide by a certain set of rules when you are boxing, just like you can't travel in basketball, can't use your hands in soccer, etc.....

LOL, yea sure, rules in drunken boxing. Dude if you really want to fight find a gym, doesn't Beebs box? Go with him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

when someone bigger than you overpowers you, grabs your arm with both hands and like bends it over his shoulder, there's not much you can do about it.

Sure there is, KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!!!!!!, constantly move, snap your punches and make sure your fists come right back to your face (elbows against ribs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

who unfortunately knew NOTHING about boxing

Like I said "Apparently neither do you."

Mr. Blonde · 01-30-2006, 10:27 PM

granted, i didnt know near as much as i do now....3 or 4 years ago, when it happened. Nothing like getting fucked up to make you motivated to get better.

EDIT: Subsequently, i started going to a gym here in muncie to learn my basics the following year, my sophomore one, and then got my own equipment.

malice · 01-30-2006, 10:42 PM

Are you sparing? I ask because you said "basics", I dont know how they do it in Muncie but in Philly basics are the first couple weeks (footwork, punches, steping with puinches, bobing & weaving, ect.) pretty much after that those things become a warm up and sparing is where you learn from there. If you are not sparing yet, start. I've learned punched in the head is the best motivation in learning how to really box.

Beebs · 01-30-2006, 11:28 PM

Thats a good point, there really is no replacement for having a live opponent firing back at you.

Mr. Blonde · 01-31-2006, 12:04 AM

i did get to sparring after a while, then training for about a year, gave up attempting it competitively because of my elbow. hence the subject of this thread. If I end up getting it better, i'll try to go back into it again, but it was too difficult to do it as hard as i would be, i could only stand to do it in moderation to stay in shape, but I can't even do that anymore.

Mars Man · 01-31-2006, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Has anyone had an elbow injury similar to this, and if so, how long did it take to heal (until you could lift again) after treatment? I'm really apprehensive.

Blonde, I had my left elbow hyperextended at least three times (I'm only counting the ones where loud snaps were heard).

First time it took me about 8 weeks until I could do push ups and bench without pain...the subsequent ones didn't take as long..I never did anything besides icing and taking it easy.

It still gets painful from time to time and there's always a little grinding going on when I exercise, but nothing I can't live with, and definitely not the worst injury ever.

Deadly Crescent Kick · 01-31-2006, 08:18 AM

this is a common karate/kung fu injury. throwing strikes in the air without hitting anything can be very bad for your joints as people often hyperextend their joints.

you should ice your elbow and take ibuprofen (sp?) when it acts up. keep the swelling down.

watch the painkillers though. that pain is a warning sign of when not to push the joint any further.

Mr. Blonde · 01-31-2006, 11:29 AM

Got it checked out today, another X-ray done, he doesnt see any fluid build-up and no apparent inter-joint damage, so whatever it is lies in the perimiter of the elbow. I have an MRI scheduled for next week, then a follow up after that. Kind of sucks doing all this, but I really really want to know what it is and if there's anything I can do about it. I hate not knowing things.

migite · 02-01-2006, 07:56 AM

spank off the the other hand and give the injured elbow a rest dammit

Deadly Crescent Kick · 02-01-2006, 09:31 AM

"the stranger"

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 02-01-2006, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ FC

I have a congenital defect in my elbows that restricts me from rotating them fully.

I cannot turn my palms upwards with my hands out, or touch my shoulders (with the same arm for each shoulder).

It kind of pisses me off, but doesnt hurt.

freak

Meeg · 02-01-2006, 06:26 PM

That really sucks about your elbow good luck w/ the MRI I hope they don't find anything to wrong. I hyperextended both of my knees playing soccer three years ago. I was really freaked out about it so I got a couple x-rays done only to find out that my cartlidge always pops under my knee caps. So when I lift anything too heavy w/ my legs my knees always crack and pop. The only thing my doctor did was send me to physical therapy for 6 months.

migite · 02-02-2006, 08:58 AM

i heard that a topical steriod jab should aid recovery.... i'm considering it since i'm boxing again and the elbow is acting up to the point where i can't shampoo my hair...

http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/...-treatment.htm

Mr. Blonde · 02-03-2006, 07:46 PM

i just got back from the gym...chest today...i had to quit about halfway through cause it hurt so bad. Goddammit, when i get this MRI on Mon. they better actually start giving me some advice on what to do other than "take ibuprofen and ice it"... I have this gay elbow brace but it doesnt seem to be working much at all...i'm going to get one of those braces they use for tendonitis that put pressure on just your forearm...that might help a little better.

This fucking blows. I'm not going to stop lifting. Hopefully there is some way to permanently fix this, i've never really had surgery before, but if it would fix this, I think i might have to opt for it.

Heaven Can Wait · 02-03-2006, 07:57 PM

I strongly suggest you take Glucosamine Sulphate

Mr. Blonde · 02-03-2006, 08:32 PM

I could look it up, but when i do that i usually get about 10,000 benefits...why do you say i should take it?

01-30-2006, 02:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	My elbow I may have posted about it a couple times before, basically about 3-4 years ago i hyperextended it (i think) from drunken boxing with a guy bigger than me at the time, (Mish) who unfortunately knew NOTHING about boxing, and he ended up stretching the fuck out of my arm and hyperextending my elbow (i think). I never got it checked out because i'm an idiot, and it's hurt from time to time, mostly during working out, but it's been liveable until recently. I had it X-rayed last year and nothing is wrong w/ the bones, so i'm going into an orthopedic sports medicine place tomorrow to get it checked out (MRI probably), because it's been hurting progressively more. I'm hoping i'll be able to get by w/ physical therapy or something like that, because if I have surgery, i'm going to be depressed as hell not being able to work out for however long it takes me to heal. Has anyone had an elbow injury similar to this, and if so, how long did it take to heal (until you could lift again) after treatment? I'm really apprehensive. If i can't work out for a long period of time, i'm going to be even more insane about working out than I am now once i get back into the swing of things.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-30-2006, 04:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	You are expected to abide by a certain set of rules when you are boxing, just like you can't travel in basketball, can't use your hands in soccer, etc....when someone bigger than you overpowers you, grabs your arm with both hands and like bends it over his shoulder, there's not much you can do about it.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-30-2006, 08:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	I have a congenital defect in my elbows that restricts me from rotating them fully. I cannot turn my palms upwards with my hands out, or touch my shoulders (with the same arm for each shoulder). It kind of pisses me off, but doesnt hurt.
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a

01-30-2006, 09:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Interesting. I didn't know that. Does it really hinder you from doing anything specific?
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-30-2006, 09:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
migite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 287 Internets: 0	i do and i got it from teaching someone how to throw a jab when the elbow hyperextension happened. it's been about 5 years now and i consider it tendonitis as i have to extend my arm to "click" the ulna and radius back into place otherwise my arm locks out and can be quite painful. no surgery or rehab as its not that big an issue. i will wear an elbow brace when working out (exercising, bjj and boxing) and ice it if its painful.
	Damnant quod non intelligunt

01-30-2006, 05:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 161638	That sucks dude...It's just like when you're grappling someone, they catch you with an armbar and crank it too hard before you can tap. Hurts like a bitch.

01-30-2006, 10:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	granted, i didnt know near as much as i do now....3 or 4 years ago, when it happened. Nothing like getting fucked up to make you motivated to get better. EDIT: Subsequently, i started going to a gym here in muncie to learn my basics the following year, my sophomore one, and then got my own equipment.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna Last edited by Mr. Blonde; 01-30-2006 at 10:33 PM.

01-30-2006, 10:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
malice Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bustleton Ave. Philadelphia, PA. Posts: 648 Internets: 10	Are you sparing? I ask because you said "basics", I dont know how they do it in Muncie but in Philly basics are the first couple weeks (footwork, punches, steping with puinches, bobing & weaving, ect.) pretty much after that those things become a warm up and sparing is where you learn from there. If you are not sparing yet, start. I've learned punched in the head is the best motivation in learning how to really box.

01-30-2006, 11:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Thats a good point, there really is no replacement for having a live opponent firing back at you.

01-31-2006, 12:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	i did get to sparring after a while, then training for about a year, gave up attempting it competitively because of my elbow. hence the subject of this thread. If I end up getting it better, i'll try to go back into it again, but it was too difficult to do it as hard as i would be, i could only stand to do it in moderation to stay in shape, but I can't even do that anymore.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-31-2006, 08:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	this is a common karate/kung fu injury. throwing strikes in the air without hitting anything can be very bad for your joints as people often hyperextend their joints. you should ice your elbow and take ibuprofen (sp?) when it acts up. keep the swelling down. watch the painkillers though. that pain is a warning sign of when not to push the joint any further.
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

01-31-2006, 11:29 AM	#17 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Got it checked out today, another X-ray done, he doesnt see any fluid build-up and no apparent inter-joint damage, so whatever it is lies in the perimiter of the elbow. I have an MRI scheduled for next week, then a follow up after that. Kind of sucks doing all this, but I really really want to know what it is and if there's anything I can do about it. I hate not knowing things.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

02-01-2006, 07:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
migite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 287 Internets: 0	spank off the the other hand and give the injured elbow a rest dammit
	Damnant quod non intelligunt

02-01-2006, 09:31 AM	#19 (permalink)
Deadly Crescent Kick NJ, Toilet Bowl of USA Join Date: May 2005 Location: secret ninja lair Posts: 1,106 Internets: 10	"the stranger"
	the poster formerly known as-Andy Kaufman NHB Intergender Champion jiu-jitsu isn't the hardass frat guy yelling at you to funnel a beer. its the laid back guy in the corner workin' on 2 chicks.

02-01-2006, 06:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
Meeg Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 16 Internets: 10	That really sucks about your elbow good luck w/ the MRI I hope they don't find anything to wrong. I hyperextended both of my knees playing soccer three years ago. I was really freaked out about it so I got a couple x-rays done only to find out that my cartlidge always pops under my knee caps. So when I lift anything too heavy w/ my legs my knees always crack and pop. The only thing my doctor did was send me to physical therapy for 6 months.
	Last edited by Meeg; 02-01-2006 at 09:47 PM.

02-02-2006, 08:58 AM	#22 (permalink)
migite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 287 Internets: 0	i heard that a topical steriod jab should aid recovery.... i'm considering it since i'm boxing again and the elbow is acting up to the point where i can't shampoo my hair... http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/...-treatment.htm
	Damnant quod non intelligunt Last edited by migite; 02-02-2006 at 09:09 AM.

02-03-2006, 07:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	i just got back from the gym...chest today...i had to quit about halfway through cause it hurt so bad. Goddammit, when i get this MRI on Mon. they better actually start giving me some advice on what to do other than "take ibuprofen and ice it"... I have this gay elbow brace but it doesnt seem to be working much at all...i'm going to get one of those braces they use for tendonitis that put pressure on just your forearm...that might help a little better. This fucking blows. I'm not going to stop lifting. Hopefully there is some way to permanently fix this, i've never really had surgery before, but if it would fix this, I think i might have to opt for it.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

02-03-2006, 07:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	I strongly suggest you take Glucosamine Sulphate
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

02-03-2006, 08:32 PM	#25 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	I could look it up, but when i do that i usually get about 10,000 benefits...why do you say i should take it?
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

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