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Unread 12-24-2008, 06:03 AM   #1601 (permalink)
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Thank you for the kind words Shaw. You are very wise. I think we both know that when you are kind and gentle-loving-caring-buddha to other people, opportunities open up for you.

I know they sure have for me...and all it took was being cool to someone--and they hooked me up. I truly believe that if I can get off my lazy ass right now..this dude may have me hooked up for life.

I think part of it though is that we've had similar experiences in life..(like being homeless lolz (i actually kinda liked that experience)) ..and he just wants to hook me up..because he can ..and it's nothing really off his back.

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Thank you for the kind words Shaw. You are very wise. I think we both know that when you are kind and gentle-loving-caring-buddha to other people, opportunities open up for you.

I know they sure have for me...and all it took was being cool to someone--and they hooked me up. I truly believe that if I can get off my lazy ass right now..this dude may have me hooked up for life.

I think part of it though is that we've had similar experiences in life..(like being homeless lolz (i actually kinda liked that experience)) ..and he just wants to hook me up..because he can ..and it's nothing really off his back.

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Yea...I'm doing that after IM's comment. I feel empowered, or passionate, or something...ENOUGH to actually make a post--so I ..yep.

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Unread 12-24-2008, 10:38 AM   #1603 (permalink)
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I respect people who are poor and can be content with what little they have knowing they probably don't have what it takes to get more.
I appreciate the spirit behind this quote, but you sounds really condescending.
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Unread 12-24-2008, 11:09 AM   #1604 (permalink)
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Active you are so delusional. Honestly, I'd love for you to prove me wrong but I just know you're going to fail. Really though, that's the best thing for you because maybe after that you'll give up this nonsense and start contributing something to society other than annoyance.

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Unread 12-24-2008, 01:11 PM   #1605 (permalink)
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fail at a pyramid scheme? that are impossible.

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Unread 12-24-2008, 05:40 PM   #1606 (permalink)
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fail at a pyramid scheme? that are impossible.
St. Abmaster is right, you just need two friends, and each of them has two friends, and each of those people have two friends ... who doesn't have two friends?
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Unread 12-24-2008, 07:20 PM   #1607 (permalink)
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why are you talking about pyramid schemes?

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Unread 12-24-2008, 09:06 PM   #1608 (permalink)
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I don't understand why everyone is getting so pissy about it.
Active is clearly trolling.
Active, where did you get this $1000/day figure from? surely to be so precise you have the whole thing worked out?
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lol, it was nice of you to give him an "out", but trust us, he's not trolling.

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Unread 12-24-2008, 09:10 PM   #1610 (permalink)
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Unread 12-25-2008, 12:30 AM   #1611 (permalink)
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Yea...I'm doing that after IM's comment. I feel empowered, or passionate, or something...ENOUGH to actually make a post--so I ..yep.
Your last paragraph is almost completely gibberish and bears no resemblance to English. So I'm gonna assume from that, that you're actually illiterate.

I feel nothing but pity for you.

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Unread 12-25-2008, 01:34 AM   #1612 (permalink)
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Your last paragraph is almost completely gibberish and bears no resemblance to English. So I'm gonna assume from that, that you're actually illiterate.

I feel nothing but pity for you.
I have high hopes for you in life making judgements like these. You could be a detective

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Unread 12-27-2008, 11:55 PM   #1613 (permalink)
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Unread 12-29-2008, 11:33 AM   #1614 (permalink)
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Active, where did you get this $1000/day figure from? surely to be so precise you have the whole thing worked out?
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Unread 12-29-2008, 03:07 PM   #1615 (permalink)
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Yet he lives in a shitty apartment with only enough furniture to fill his bedroom. Keep living the dream!
it's not a shitty apartment by any means...and because i don't want to buy furniture for a place and have to drag it around at the ripe old age of 24 means absolutely nothing.

are you the one that is having trouble with 8th grade math Ironic, or is it repug? I don't really differentiate between your posts..same person to me. if you are, i'd think it would be hard for you to imagine any other lifestyle than the one you were told you should live.

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Nope, that's repug. I'm the one who owns two houses at the ripe old age of 27. Have fun paying rent doucher.

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Unread 12-29-2008, 03:43 PM   #1617 (permalink)
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Unread 12-29-2008, 09:54 PM   #1618 (permalink)
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Nope, that's repug. I'm the one who owns two houses at the ripe old age of 27. Have fun paying rent doucher.
OWNS? So you are rich then...or someone gave you a bunch of money (or its from your family). Lets see some pics in the Cribs thread IM.

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Imagine you have $500,000 and no place to live. You find a house for $500,000 that you anticipate will increase in value about 5% yearly. You also have an idea for a business that you think you could make 30% yearly on. Clearly, in this scenario, it would make sense to put all your money towards the business and then just go find some apartment to rent.

I guess all I'm trying to illustrate is that renting is not a bad investment in any absolute sense. Sometimes it makes sense to "just" rent thus freeing up your money to make more money with which to buy a larger, kick-ass house sometime in the future.

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Unread 12-29-2008, 11:03 PM   #1620 (permalink)
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Imagine you have $500,000 and no place to live. You find a house for $500,000 that you anticipate will increase in value about 5% yearly. You also have an idea for a business that you think you could make 30% yearly on. Clearly, in this scenario, it would make sense to put all your money towards the business and then just go find some apartment to rent.

I guess all I'm trying to illustrate is that renting is not a bad investment in any absolute sense. Sometimes it makes sense to "just" rent thus freeing up your money to make more money with which to buy a larger, kick-ass sometime in the future.
But then again, we are talking about someone that is soon going to be pulling down $350,000 a year doing nothing at all with no start up costs. So he can certainly just go ahead and buy that house because he doesn't need money to grow his business.
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But then again, we are talking about someone that is soon going to be pulling down $350,000 a year doing nothing at all with no start up costs.
It is very doubtful that this one thing will be able to last that long. It's already had problems (which is reason I can't use right now...as my version is broken)...otherwise I'd be doing it right now..hitting $400 in a day is not bad by any means (I'm saying $400 and not $1,000 because that is what I personally hit w/about 9 hours of running it).

The goal I sorta set for myself was to have $200k banked by time I turn 26. Dunno if this gonna happen at all..I mean *probably* not (don't want to tell myself and believe that though, just being realistic about current circumstances)...but in my mind, it's still a reasonable, yet really difficult goal for ME to hit. Set this goal like 3mos ago..and so far have made no progress ...besides knowledge and contacts. I'm sure there will be mean and stupid comments about this (either it's a small amount, or too large amount..or that its a faggy number...we will see). I have faith though...I've learned sooo much in past 6-8 months or so. Before I could not envision how to go about making 3k/mo over the net, and now I can see how something could make 15-20k/mo...and how one would go about making that a reality. I'm saying that number (as opposed to 90k or 30k)...because it just seems more realistic for ME--at least at the current point in time. I mean this guy I kno honestly made over $3k the day I asked him about it..but $90k month just seems out of this world to actually be continuous...at least with this ONE project. And, I'm not really counting on all my business opportunities just to be handed over to me, like this lovely gem was .

People that are being dicks about this..whatever. Internetpreneur is something I am highly interested in. Perhaps I will start a thread and just put everything in there so I'm not spamming up unrelated threads. (for ANYONE who has a legitimate interest in this type of thing, and maybe for my own logging purposes so I can timestamp stuff.) I didn't originally really mean to start bragging about this or anything else...or even to say the statement $1,000 a day...it happened because I let my guard down and actually replied to whosoever's stupid comment that got me going...instead of just ignoring it.

For real Ugly Bastard, maybe we should have legit thread about Internet related stuff...and could share the interesting / potentially interesting things that we have come across. For motivational purposes, or perhaps just expanding horizons a bit about different possibilities.

..and DD, yes you are right about the no startup costs. That is not something I was lying about, or exaggerating...except that I DID say TIME was required. And as far as not having to do "anything"...not exactly true. ...I'm not working on this project myself (basically hoping it's just handed to me....but I will be trying to start expanding programming knowledge so when opportunities in future that I come across requires it..maybe I can do something about it). The part that is not true...from the past week and a half or so (this guy started testing early December), it's been clear that things have to be done to keep the program working. But once the program DOES work, then all it has to do ..is run.

I'm all about that type of revenue. I believe that is a good way to become wealthy...things that you can basically do once--then they create a stream of revenue from that point on. This thing is mostly like that..but it's apparent at the moment that it needs updates. And more than likely at some point, have no idea how soon, it won't be able to be "updated" anymore because the other side will have figured out how to stop making it work. (So yea...there is some shadiness... "other side" lolz)

Thats why I love the Internet, lots of opportunities to have revenue streams that are "do it once" type deals...as opposed to having to work X amount of hours for X amount of $...and thats it. ...that, and it's mobile. I want to be mobile until probably mid 30s at least, unless I get married or something.

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There's that, plus if you don't know where you want to live, or want to travel around for a few years, doesn't really make sense to put your money into a house and plant yourself at a location. There's much better things you could put your money into if you are wanting to have a mobile lifestyle (which has basically been my dream/goal to have). I'm not currently traveling, but I do like that I could pick up and go anywhere/move anywhere ...and not have to worry about a job, house, etc. that tie me down to a certain location.

Also nice thing about renting (especially for younger people), is that you don't have to deal with all the house type shit that can break. ..I also personally like living in different places too. Different scenery, style, neighbors, city, etc. Buying a house would kind of make me feel old I think...like that I need to be responsible... and get a "job". (hehe )


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So he can certainly just go ahead and buy that house because he doesn't need money to grow his business.
This is just stupid. I said I knew about this opportunity that is possible RIGHT NOW..and everyone is going apeshit about it. Just because it doesn't make sense in traditional business sense, or seem real to you, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I say that, because I'm not an idiot--just because this one single idea/campaign does not need seed money, DOES NOT mean that there are other business opportunities that absolutely require start up capital and re-investment of profits...that I am looking to get into. The thing I have been talking about should by no means be considered "a business", rather I would be more inclined to relate it to a successful marketing campaign. Marketing campaigns have a much different life cycle / life span than a full blown business.

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There's that, plus if you don't know where you want to live, or want to travel around for a few years, doesn't really make sense to put your money into a house and plant yourself at a location. There's much better things you could put your money into if you are wanting to have a mobile lifestyle (which has basically been my dream/goal to have). I'm not currently traveling, but I do like that I could pick up and go anywhere/move anywhere ...and not have to worry about a job, house, etc. that tie me down to a certain location.
This I can agree on. While sure it makes good financial sense to own a house, I just don't see it working for me if I don't plan on staying where I'm at currently. Rest assured, though, as soon as I find a place I want to stay (for at least 5 years) buying a house will be my first priority.

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Unread 12-30-2008, 05:09 AM   #1623 (permalink)
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This I can agree on. While sure it makes good financial sense to own a house, I just don't see it working for me if I don't plan on staying where I'm at currently. Rest assured, though, as soon as I find a place I want to stay (for at least 5 years) buying a house will be my first priority.
Same here, I'm trying to get the hell out of border towns.
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Unread 12-30-2008, 05:12 AM   #1624 (permalink)
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You're putting in your work, son. I have no doubt that within 5 years you will have one of the most exciting jobs of anybody I know with what you've told me you'd like to do.

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Unread 12-30-2008, 12:28 PM   #1625 (permalink)
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OWNS? So you are rich then...or someone gave you a bunch of money (or its from your family). Lets see some pics in the Cribs thread IM.
No not rich by any means, but certainly well off. Yes lots of people gave me money. Banks mostly, but a good portion came from people I did loans for. I worked 60+ hours a week around the clock, doing nothing but making money. After acquiring a very respectable amount on my own, I did inherit a bit more from my dad in June. I've since increased this amount by roughly $80k.

This house is currently on the market so there isn't any furniture in it, but you can at least get a decent idea of the kitchen and living room. There are two more bedrooms, another bathroom, and a finished basement downstairs.

4851 Frisco Ave Loveland, CO 80538 - #578644 , $249,900 - RealEstate.com

The house I actually live in is quite a bit more modest but is in California so that is to be expected. I've taken a MAULING in the real estate market (I've lost somewhere in the area of $110k in value) on this one so I'm pretty much holding onto it fo damage control at this point. I'm in the process of doing some work on it, but I'll be happy to post pictures once the work has been completed.

UB, I was really talking more shit than anything. Once I liquidate my real estate in a better market, I'll most definitely rent for a while until it drops back down again. As to the starting a business thing, you forgot the fact that even though the value may only increase by 5% per year, I'm also not obligated to pay rent or a mortgage payment, which basically equates to a conservative $18,000 a year (give or take) that I save by not wasting money paying rent. Also, I have to do absolutely nothing to keep this money. In addition, as I'm in school I don't have to work at all and can live super minimally and concentrate on getting perfect grades. This is why I wont be one of the statistics of law students unable to get a legal job when they graduate. Starting a business would be way too much work and distract from my studies too much... On top of all that, I don't know shit about it. I plan on some day maybe investing as a silent partner with people who do know what they're doing, but I'm not arrogant or stupid enough to try it on my own. Well, maybe that arrogant, but not that stupid.

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