Who is going to hell? An argument for the Bible, Religion and God. - Page 43 - Nubblies.net Forums

Mr. Blonde · 12-17-2010, 05:23 AM

Pat Condell lost me a bit during the "Ground Zero mosque" debate, but this one is pretty good:

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So if you are a religious person and if you're thinking of demanding more respect for your beliefs, please try to bear in mind that you and your religion are already getting way more respect than you've ever deserved. Your faith is a joke. Your god is a joke. He's so absurd he's an embarrassment even to people who don't even believe in him, and you still have it all to prove. So far, no proof has been forthcoming, nor is it likely to be, as we all well know, so respect, i'm afraid, is out of the question. The best you could hope for is amused incredulity, and that would be on a good day.

YouTube - Your faith is a joke

ninjaface · 12-20-2010, 06:03 PM

A Holiday Message from Ricky Gervais: Why I'm An Atheist - Speakeasy - WSJ

Mr. Blonde · 12-20-2010, 07:35 PM

Read that and thought about posting it yesterday, but thought better of it. It's alright, but nothing new. He basically repeats everything that has already been said by great atheist scientists and philosophers. Good to see another famous person not committed to the cause, though.

Fruitacious B · 12-20-2010, 10:49 PM

Just bought a copy of this yesterday, looking forward to reading it.

But not until I'm finished with my other purchase...

Ugly Bastard · 12-20-2010, 10:54 PM

I read that Hitchens book. Loved it.

Mr. Blonde · 12-20-2010, 10:59 PM

Definitely a great book. You'll enjoy it and learn a lot of religious fuckery you were previously unaware of, and also a lot of new words. That motherfucker has such a ridiculous vocabulary. Pocket/small dictionaries are useless, definitions are only available online or if you have one of those old huge library dictionaries lying around.

Mr. Blonde · 12-23-2010, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjaface

A Holiday Message from Ricky Gervais: Why I'm An Atheist - Speakeasy - WSJ

Does God Exist? Ricky Gervais Takes Your Questions - Speakeasy - WSJ

Answers questions from readers. Always fun to see people get educated.

I hella-lolled at this:

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Q: Woody Allen is widely quoted as having once said: “You cannot prove the nonexistence of God; you just have to take it on faith.” Is being an atheist as unscientific a stance as believing in God? Isn’t it more intellectually honest to be agnostic?

A: Well Woody Allen was being facetious but makes a good point. Is being an atheist as unscientific a stance as believing in God? No definitely not. How can not believing in something that is backed up with no empirical evidence be less scientific than believing in something that not only has no empirical evidence but actually goes against the laws of the universe and in many cases actually contradicts itself?

Mr. Blonde · 12-23-2010, 10:48 PM

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f3lix · 01-01-2011, 12:17 PM

“You cannot prove the nonexistence of God" is just misplacing the burden of proof. Simple end to that argument.

Mr. Blonde · 01-01-2011, 01:49 PM

angry pancake · 01-01-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

“You cannot prove the nonexistence of God" is just misplacing the burden of proof. Simple end to that argument.

Here's somebody who thinks it is possible to "prove a negative." http://departments.bloomu.edu/philos...eanegative.pdf After skimming his essay, I'm pretty sure he didn't get the high score in Intro Logic. Not only that, who in fuck's name are these professional Logicians? Geoffrey Hunter never even considered himself this. The main thing, he fucking forgets that proving the nonexistence isn't the same as proving that a set of negative intergers is a subset of numbers. Those in the philo world would call this "equivocation." Sometimes these academics get too fucking full of themselves and just get stupid on theory. One of my friends teaches in the Philosophy Dept at U. Texas Arlington, he pulls this shit all of the time trying to create the perfect, yet simple, constructive dilemma.

Even if logicians disagreed big fucking deal. It's an extentialism argument not, an logical/mathematical on. Lindenbaum and Godel did their thing and Kierkegaard and Heidegger did another. It's akin to a general practice attorney commentating and procedural rules in the PTO.

Edit: Agree with f3lix on burden shifting.

Mr. Blonde · 01-01-2011, 09:47 PM

I'm a little surprised this is even showing up on page 43. Bertrand Russell covered this with his Celestial Teapot much more succinctly almost 60 years ago.

Mr. Blonde · 01-02-2011, 12:14 AM

I posted about Dawkins' The Root of All Evil? BBC documentary about religion a few days ago, I also just finished his second one in the same vein, but dealing more with superstition and pseudoscience. It's called The Enemies of Reason and is also very good. Funny, too.

Mr. Blonde · 01-06-2011, 01:25 AM

YouTube - Bill O'Reilly vs. David Silverman: You Know They're All Scams

I must admit I don't regularly watch O'Reilly regularly, but every single clip i've seen him in with somebody whom he disagrees with ideologically he sounds like a complete idiot.

Saint DH · 01-06-2011, 02:03 AM

Sometimes watching O'Reily is difficult because he constantly interrupts his guests and shit. I feel like he did make some good points. Those billboards aren't going to help the atheists' cause at all, and it might actually hurt it. Many religious people will see those signs as an insult, and only turn them more toward religion. I think there are better messages that could be sent to further their cause.

With that thought, I'd like to leave you with this gem.

YouTube - MercyMe - I Can Only Imagine

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 01-06-2011, 02:26 AM

At the beginning of that video when the kid was walking up the stairs I thought he was going to get to the top and accidentally see his mom and dad having sex. His mom would see him and yell at him and call him a little pervert. His dad would jump out of the bed and slap the kid in the face and punch him in the stomach a couple of times. The kid would get the wind knocked out of him. While he gasps for breath his dad yells, "YOU WANT TO BE A LITTLE PERVERT, HUH? YOURE A HORRIBLE NASTY LITTLE BOY. YOU WANT TO WATCH??? THEN WATCH." His dad then forces the kid to watch and fucks the shit out of his mom from behind. The kid closes his eyes and looks away. "WATCH DAMMIT!" The boy tries to turn his head away again and his Dad backhands him across the face. "WATCH ME FUCK YOUR MOM YOU LITTLE PERVERT." We later see him grown up 53 years old and never having had an intimate relationship in his life. He is sitting naked in a cheap hotel room where a hooker has been trying to get him hard by jacking him off for 45 minutes and she has finally given up. The video fades to black and the music decrescendos to its end.

But a bunch of people held up picture frames instead.

Mr. Blonde · 01-06-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

I feel like he did make some good points. Those billboards aren't going to help the atheists' cause at all, and it might actually hurt it.

Atheists don't have an absolute set of morals or expectations like Christians supposedly do. If we figure something is bullshit, we call it bullshit. Most atheists are looking to give people wake-up calls, not seduce them with candy coated bullshit.

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Many religious people will see those signs as an insult, and only turn them more toward religion.

Yeah pretty sure Christianity is much more guilty than atheism (as usual) at turning people away from their side of the story, and not just with billboards. But here are a few:

tl;dr - Religious people like Bill-O are hypocrites who complain about atheists' rights to free speech, quit being an apologist.

Repugnant Abomination · 01-06-2011, 05:20 AM

Man, that Silverman guy was painfully annoying. O'Reilly's strength has always been getting people on his show with contrasting views from his own who're idiots to make himself look good.

Also, I disagree with O'Reilly saying only 1% of Americans are atheist. In fact, let me look it up...

"The most recent ARIS report, released March 9, 2009, found in 2008, 34.2 million Americans (15.0%) claim no religion. Of which, 1.6% explicitly describe themselves as atheist or agnostic..."
citation: http://b27.cc.trincoll.edu/weblogs/A...eport_2008.pdf

Hm, I'll be damned. Seems to be pointing towards a kind of new-agey spiritualism in people. Apparently they can't let go of the idea of God, but don't want to take on all the baggage that comes with religion.

Mr. Blonde · 01-06-2011, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

Hm, I'll be damned. Seems to be pointing towards a kind of new-agey spiritualism in people. Apparently they can't let go of the idea of God, but don't want to take on all the baggage that comes with religion.

Bingo. "Atheist" still carries a very negative connotation, and people are still gullible as ever and want to find some other nonsense bullshit to believe in.

ninjaface · 01-07-2011, 04:06 AM

God was behind Big Bang, universe no accident: Pope - Yahoo! News

Mr. Blonde · 01-07-2011, 04:09 AM

Mr. Blonde · 01-07-2011, 08:43 PM

Bill O'Reilly Proves God's Existence - Neil deGrasse Tyson - The Colbert Report - 1/6/11 - Video Clip \| Comedy Central

Repugnant Abomination · 01-07-2011, 09:01 PM

Yeah, so we're still all friends with you on facebook and you still don't need to post the same stuff here as you do there.

Mr. Blonde · 01-07-2011, 09:09 PM

Problem solved, faggot.

JK DOOSH BUT HOW ABOUT YOU QUIT BEING SUCH A LITTLE CUNTY BITCH

Repugnant Abomination · 01-07-2011, 09:31 PM

Clearly you need to pump your brakes.

Can I get a psychological breakdown of this emotional outburst, Mr. Mistoffelees?

12-20-2010, 07:35 PM	#1053 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Read that and thought about posting it yesterday, but thought better of it. It's alright, but nothing new. He basically repeats everything that has already been said by great atheist scientists and philosophers. Good to see another famous person not committed to the cause, though.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

12-20-2010, 10:49 PM	#1054 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	Just bought a copy of this yesterday, looking forward to reading it. But not until I'm finished with my other purchase...
	"Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand." \|vonnegut

12-20-2010, 10:59 PM	#1056 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Definitely a great book. You'll enjoy it and learn a lot of religious fuckery you were previously unaware of, and also a lot of new words. That motherfucker has such a ridiculous vocabulary. Pocket/small dictionaries are useless, definitions are only available online or if you have one of those old huge library dictionaries lying around.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-06-2011, 02:26 AM	#1066 (permalink)
THEINCREDIBLEdork Emperor Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,348 Internets: 290966	At the beginning of that video when the kid was walking up the stairs I thought he was going to get to the top and accidentally see his mom and dad having sex. His mom would see him and yell at him and call him a little pervert. His dad would jump out of the bed and slap the kid in the face and punch him in the stomach a couple of times. The kid would get the wind knocked out of him. While he gasps for breath his dad yells, "YOU WANT TO BE A LITTLE PERVERT, HUH? YOURE A HORRIBLE NASTY LITTLE BOY. YOU WANT TO WATCH??? THEN WATCH." His dad then forces the kid to watch and fucks the shit out of his mom from behind. The kid closes his eyes and looks away. "WATCH DAMMIT!" The boy tries to turn his head away again and his Dad backhands him across the face. "WATCH ME FUCK YOUR MOM YOU LITTLE PERVERT." We later see him grown up 53 years old and never having had an intimate relationship in his life. He is sitting naked in a cheap hotel room where a hooker has been trying to get him hard by jacking him off for 45 minutes and she has finally given up. The video fades to black and the music decrescendos to its end. But a bunch of people held up picture frames instead.
	#YOLO

12-20-2010, 06:03 PM	#1052 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	A Holiday Message from Ricky Gervais: Why I'm An Atheist - Speakeasy - WSJ

12-20-2010, 10:54 PM	#1055 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I read that Hitchens book. Loved it.

12-23-2010, 10:48 PM	#1058 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	God is an Epic Troll: The Best of the Advice God Meme \| Ranker - A World of Lists

01-01-2011, 12:17 PM	#1059 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	“You cannot prove the nonexistence of God" is just misplacing the burden of proof. Simple end to that argument.

01-01-2011, 01:49 PM	#1060 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	lol

01-01-2011, 09:47 PM	#1062 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	I'm a little surprised this is even showing up on page 43. Bertrand Russell covered this with his Celestial Teapot much more succinctly almost 60 years ago.

01-02-2011, 12:14 AM	#1063 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	I posted about Dawkins' The Root of All Evil? BBC documentary about religion a few days ago, I also just finished his second one in the same vein, but dealing more with superstition and pseudoscience. It's called The Enemies of Reason and is also very good. Funny, too.

01-06-2011, 05:20 AM	#1068 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Man, that Silverman guy was painfully annoying. O'Reilly's strength has always been getting people on his show with contrasting views from his own who're idiots to make himself look good. Also, I disagree with O'Reilly saying only 1% of Americans are atheist. In fact, let me look it up... "The most recent ARIS report, released March 9, 2009, found in 2008, 34.2 million Americans (15.0%) claim no religion. Of which, 1.6% explicitly describe themselves as atheist or agnostic..." citation: http://b27.cc.trincoll.edu/weblogs/A...eport_2008.pdf Hm, I'll be damned. Seems to be pointing towards a kind of new-agey spiritualism in people. Apparently they can't let go of the idea of God, but don't want to take on all the baggage that comes with religion.

01-07-2011, 04:06 AM	#1070 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	God was behind Big Bang, universe no accident: Pope - Yahoo! News

01-07-2011, 04:09 AM	#1071 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	lol

01-07-2011, 09:01 PM	#1073 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Yeah, so we're still all friends with you on facebook and you still don't need to post the same stuff here as you do there.

01-07-2011, 09:09 PM	#1074 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Problem solved, faggot. JK DOOSH BUT HOW ABOUT YOU QUIT BEING SUCH A LITTLE CUNTY BITCH

01-07-2011, 09:31 PM	#1075 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Clearly you need to pump your brakes. Can I get a psychological breakdown of this emotional outburst, Mr. Mistoffelees?