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![]() People's beliefs rarely reflect how they actually live; I think that's a universal source of frustration for most people.
I'm not a nihilist though, because I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic. There are two types of agnostics: ones who don't think they can ever know if God exists, and ones who don't know but don't rule out the possibility that someday they might. I fall into the latter category. I also think there might be truth that exists outside the scope of science. Either way, death fucking sucks, and I get really annoyed with guys like Harris and Dawkins who try to put this positive, humanist spin on it. I think deep down they know it's a bleaker world view, but you can't come out with that cause you're trying to rally people to your cause. It's all PR nonsense. |
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Agnostic atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Skepticblog Are you an Atheist or Agnostic? I admit this is rather trivial in the scope of the discussion, but I still hold to the idea that it's difficult to have strong opinions and desires for knowledge about "the big question" and still be an "agnostic". I don't claim to "know" either, but I am comfortable with the label of "agnostic atheist", which is what I am now. I look at it as: If you don't actively believe in a specific god, or gods, and don't pray, or don't go to religious ceremonies, you are, by very definition, at the very least a "weak atheist", whether you like to admit it or not. If a person doesn't eat any sort of meat, but doesn't prefer to call themselves a vegetarian, it doesn't mean that they aren't still very much a vegetarian. Quote:
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Not to mention, when there is an afterlife, why bother to go towards any objective with any real intention? | |
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![]() This is a bit off topic, but I'm assuming those of you who do not believe in afterlife also do not believe extraterrestrial life exists for the same reason of lack of evidence. Is this a correct assumption?
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On top of that, it's still entirely likely we may find either life or evidence of life within our own solar system. If this happens, it will shake everything about life "only" being on Earth. And it's well within our scientific reach in the near future. The afterlife has no evidence supporting any of it except for hopes and "light at the end of the tunnel" stories. | |
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![]() ID wasn't even close to being spot on with that analogy.
Anyone who thinks so is clearly retarded and not worth my time arguing with. Just because something is probable, doesn't mean there is any evidence to support its existence. There is no evidence of intelligent life anywhere within our spectrum of detection, which, admittedly, is small. |
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![]() How so?
If we're basing our beliefs purely on empirical evidence, how is this any different than belief in afterlife? If it's simply because one day we will be able to obtain evidence, then I can say they same thing about after death. |
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"Intelligent" life exists here. So yes, that is well within our spectrum. | |
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I am merely pointing out your bias towards religion and afterlife. I find it interesting to see. I can only imagine that it's some sort of rebellious attitude or justification for the way you live your lives. I don't know. It's interesting nonetheless. | |
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![]() whats the difference between our kind of life and ET life?
Also would like your definition of life? Little hazy at the moment but maybe something like 1. Organic Chemistry 2. reduces internal entropy 3. causes its ratios of the chemicals in its environment to change (flux.. think methane + oxygen levels this is how we will find life elsewhere) 4. self-replicating/obeys natural selection 5. complex molecules in the atmosphere (doesn't really count) |
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We can monitor every system of the human body, at death there is nothing to lead us to believe anything happens other than decay. One requires belief in probability, the other in the supernatural. | |
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You know that in 1977 we discovered a third main branch of our tree of life? Archaea Quote:
We don't have any reasons to believe life/abiogensis is extraordinary, it didn't take long to get started on earth, not made of anything special and so on. fuck you donkey harry Quote:
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Dent, you can suck my dick you limey fuck. I could give two shits about anything you say. | |
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Dent, although you are a limey fuck, I may have been a kinda harsh in reply. I get a little down after Christmas. Sorry. | |
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