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Old 10-27-2013, 11:34 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:23 PM   #27 (permalink)
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A Christian Transhumanist Association: moving forward | TURING CHURCH
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:27 PM   #28 (permalink)
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At first glance, I don't see a problem with that. One could say it is humanity's destiny to achieve godhood anyways.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:03 PM   #29 (permalink)
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It's good to see Christians getting into transhumanism, It will be interesting if they get set up properly.
I haven't came across a religious person spouting "destiny to achieve godhood" before, and I think there is a conflict, one is a death cult.

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While there is plenty on the transhumanist wish-list cited above to support a religiously inspired charge of "scientists playing God," it actually may be the effort to dramatically increase life/health-span, once it approaches an extreme level, that intrudes most seriously and fundamentally upon something that was once thought to be the exclusive domain of religion: immortality.
And to make matters worse, transhumanists are promising PHYSICAL immortality without the need for faith in an afterlife nor the necessity to die. This strikes at the heart of many religions' greatest selling point. If transhumanists can offer the world's people the possibility of immortality without the paradoxical need to die to obtain it, traditional religions will be seen as obsolete by many pragmatically-minded people, which brings us to…
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“The Wager is the most logical conclusion to arrive at for any sensible human being: We love life and therefore want to live as long as possible—we desire to be immortal. It's impossible to know if we're going to be immortal once we die. To do nothing doesn't help our odds of attaining immortality, since it seems evident that we're going to die someday and possibly cease to exist. To attempt something scientifically constructive towards ensuring immortality beforehand is the most logical solution.” (58-9)
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In the book, there is a heated discussion between the leader of the transhumanists, Jethro Knights, and the leader of the religious opposition, Reverend Belinas:

Belinas declared, “That's so typical of your overman breed, of which you are its chief architect and philosopher. Your problem is that you're not an atheist; you're not even an antitheist. You're an apatheist—one who doesn't care to find out if he should know God.”

“That's true,” Jethro answered simply. “It's just not an expedient use of my time. I have too much value in my own life for the need to consider, or want, anything else.”

“You've never been fearful you might be wrong about that? You’ve never been afraid you might miss out on knowing the Creator of the universe?”

“Nope. Never.”

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Didn't check Dent's last post, lol.
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lol. Alexander Kruel - Eliezer Yudkowsky’s narcissistic tendencies
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Yudkowsky opened my eyes to some new ways of thinking/looking at things, but I think you've read much more of his material than I have.

Interesting idea. What if the AI goes the opposite direction?

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pretty well done. i laughed at the forcing supplements down her mouth part.

also she hit the spacebar when it asked her to upload her consciousness into the computer and in my book that's a cancel.

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If you're an open individualist you'd be that too, assuming mind uploading works.
If you're empty then it doesn't matter, closed's should gaf
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can't we just, like, go beyond labels, man?

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If you don't think mind uploading works you get a label, there are many reasons you might think mind uploading can't work and each of them gets a label

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