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Old 10-02-2006, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Scientists see the softer side of Tyrannosaurus rex.

When paleontologists find fossilized dinosaur bones during a dig, they usually do everything in their power to protect them, using tools like toothbrushes to carefully unearth the bones without inflicting any damage. However, when scientists found a massive Tyrannosaurus rex thigh bone in a remote region of Montana a few months ago, they were forced to break the bone in two in order to fit it into the transport helicopter. This act of necessity revealed a startling surprise: soft tissue that had seemingly resisted fossilization still existed inside the bone. This tissue, including blood vessels, bone cells, and perhaps even blood cells, was so well preserved that it was still stretchy and flexible.

A scanning electron microscope revealed that the dinosaur blood vessels, which are 70 million years old, are virtually identical to those recovered from modern ostrich bones. The ostrich is today’s largest bird, and many paleontologists believe that birds are the living descendants of dinosaurs. Scientists may be able to confirm this evolutionary relationship if they can isolate certain proteins from the recently discovered T. rex tissue. These proteins could also help solve another puzzle: whether dinosaurs were cold-blooded like other reptiles or warm-blooded like mammals.

Does this discovery of soft dinosaur tissue mean that scientists will soon be able to clone a Tyrannosaurus rex? Probably not – most scientists believe that DNA cannot survive for 70 million years. Then again, before this discovery, most scientists believed that soft tissue could not survive for 70 million years either.


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Holy shit, that's fucking awesome. That seems ridiculously impossible.


I really hope they can figure out a way to clone a T-Rex. That would be so fucking sweet.

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This is amazing news. I love it.


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p.s. does anyone else want to eat it? from the picture it kinda looks delicious.

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Other news: I looked into it more and I guess this happened in March of 2005. The fact that we haven't heard anything else about it can only mean that, yes, they were successful in cloning the T-Rex and that the clones are running out of control on an island somewhere. I'm sure we'll hear about it once the situation is more in control.
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p.s. does anyone else want to eat it? from the picture it kinda looks delicious.
Oh yeah, a bit of a cross between peperoni and t-rex jerky


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I showed a girl I know the article:

girl: wow
girl: thats messed up!!
girl: but i dont believe in evolution!

Blonde: haha...it's kinda backed up by...whats that thing called...science?

girl: science is gay
girl: God is not:-)

Blonde: ever think that god and evolution worked together?

girl: mmm yeah to some degree i guess
girl: no form of evolution could happen without a beginning... GOD

Blonde: but you do agree that we evolved from primates

girl: we as in humans?

Blonde: yes

girl: no!
girl: LIKE THOSE WEIRD LOOKING PEOPLE?
girl: gorilla looking?
girl: define primates

Blonde: ...apes
Blonde: you can't deny the similarities

girl: similarities... so what

Blonde: there are skeletal remains that show the progress from ape to human

girl: says who
girl: you just read that bullshit

Blonde: oh yeah
Blonde: and where did you read your information from

girl: you've never seen these supposed sketelons
girl: the bible biatch!

Blonde: you've never seen a supposed fire from the sky, or an angel

girl: religion is so much deeper than BELIEVING in evolution

Blonde: why? because of tradition?
Blonde: because it's been around longer than modern science?

here is when she backs out

girl: no because that is my opinion and my opinion about my religion is all that matters to me

Blonde: fair enough

girl: thats why i dont tell people that evolution never happened
girl: cus i guess i dont know
girl: but i guess i do know what i believe
girl: ?

Blonde: you won't ever hear me try to change your beliefs
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what's funny about this is that the point of the article was that they found soft tissue dinosaur remains, evolution was only a small part of it.

The ancient intuition that all matter, all "reality," is energy, that all phenomena, including time and space, are mere crystallizations of mind, is an idea with which few physicists have quarreled since the theory of relativity first called into question the separate identities of energy and matter. Today most scientists would agree with the ancient Hindus that nothing exists or is destroyed, things merely change shape or form; that matter is insubstantial in origin, a temporary aggregate of the pervasive energy that animates the electron.

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I don't believe we evolved from apes.
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what do you think we evolved from?

The ancient intuition that all matter, all "reality," is energy, that all phenomena, including time and space, are mere crystallizations of mind, is an idea with which few physicists have quarreled since the theory of relativity first called into question the separate identities of energy and matter. Today most scientists would agree with the ancient Hindus that nothing exists or is destroyed, things merely change shape or form; that matter is insubstantial in origin, a temporary aggregate of the pervasive energy that animates the electron.

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I think we've always been human beings. We've definitely evolved within our species, become smarter etc... but I don't think it's the same way as you think.
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I guess I should say I believe we evolved from something very similar to our current-day primates, both in intelligence level and physical appearance, just with an obvious propensity to advance through natural selection.

The ancient intuition that all matter, all "reality," is energy, that all phenomena, including time and space, are mere crystallizations of mind, is an idea with which few physicists have quarreled since the theory of relativity first called into question the separate identities of energy and matter. Today most scientists would agree with the ancient Hindus that nothing exists or is destroyed, things merely change shape or form; that matter is insubstantial in origin, a temporary aggregate of the pervasive energy that animates the electron.

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You may have actually enlightened this dumb bitch for a moment, blonde. Of course, by tomorrow she'll forget all about it. This is why I believe organized religion is one of the main causes of ignorance in society dating back to when the first societies were formed. People follow their religious beliefs blindly, ignoring answers that are real and right in front of them, while people elsewhere believe in their religion just as fiercely. What you believe in is pretty much based on where the location is that you were born. Which is rediculous because one person goes to hell because he was born in India and believes in what he was taught as was the one "true" religion while the religious guy who was born in hicksville, Tennessee goes to heaven because he believes in jesus.

Religion is the reason why stupid fucks are blowing themselves up right now to kill other stupid fucks. It is also the reason Mel Gibson was crucified.

Then again religion is probably a good thing because it solves a large part of the "human condition" for many people. I believe there is a God. But the only thing I really know about him is that I don't really know jack shit about him.

Sorry to sour this incredible thread with such a serious topic. By the way the most excited thing about the possibility of cloning T-rexes is the possiblility that dinosaur porn could be in the process of being made without us even knowing it!

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I think we've always been human beings. We've definitely evolved within our species, become smarter etc... but I don't think it's the same way as you think.
So in the begining there were single cell life forms, and people?

Also, I believe human and apes share a common ancestor, not one coming from the other, although I guess it just depends on how you define "ape."
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I would LOVE a big juicy T-Rex Burger.
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I really hope they don't manage to clone a dinosaur. Scientists know very little about them. They'd really be rolling the dice bringing back something they can't be 100% about, and I would certainly hope scientists would not be willing to make that risk.
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This is amazing. I too would love to devour some T-rex burgers.
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I really hope they don't manage to clone a dinosaur. Scientists know very little about them. They'd really be rolling the dice bringing back something they can't be 100% about, and I would certainly hope scientists would not be willing to make that risk.
I agree. We play this one safe and don't run the risk of having one of them wind up in Los Angeles terrorizing the city. Save the tissue until our weapon systems have advanced enough to take down a 30 foot tall reptile.
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I really hope they don't manage to clone a dinosaur. Scientists know very little about them. They'd really be rolling the dice bringing back something they can't be 100% about, and I would certainly hope scientists would not be willing to make that risk.
Keep it in a cage with several Anti-Aircraft gun trained on it at all times.
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We could easily take down a 30 ft lizard. On top of this, it's not like we're going to clone it and *poof* we have a huge fucking dinosaur terrorizing the christ out of us. Instead, we'll clone it and have a cute little son of a bitch running around biting our fingertips, and, all the while, we'll be training it to do our bidding.

I say we clone them asap (all males, of course) and attempt training. If they aren't responsive, we ship them to a secluded island to live out their days eating lemurs and shit. If they are responsive, we throw saddles on the motherfuckers and ride them into the sunset.
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I agree. We play this one safe and don't run the risk of having one of them wind up in Los Angeles terrorizing the city. Save the tissue until our weapon systems have advanced enough to take down a 30 foot tall reptile.
This reminded me about a comment I read years ago from a man who was head of the San Diego zoo. Basically he was laughing about the portrayal of dinosaurs in Jurrasic Park as being so uncontrollable and that a modern zoo would probably be able to safely contain a T- Rex or a Velociraptor no big deal.


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I agree with harnessing the dinos as war machines... I think mainly because this was a favorite of mine from my childhood.

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For the record y'all, my last post was just making fun of Schroeder. Didn't think people thought I was dumb enough to take a "wait till our weapons systems can take down a 30 foot dinosaur" comment seriously.
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I say we clone them asap (all males, of course) and attempt training.
If there is anything we can learn from the groundbreaking film Jurassic Park II, its that "life will always find a way." Some of the males will surely morph into females and the dinosaurs will reproduce at an exponential rate, overwhelming the human race. With great discoveries comes great responsibility my friends.

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I think an out of control population of T-rex's would have a profoundly positive effect upon the human race. Sure, many would be killed by the mighty beasts, but those of us that survive would be united. All the people of the earth having one common enemy. No more turmoil in the middle east. No more war on terror. No more war on drugs. Instead, a war to reclaim the earth from the rampaging prehistoric predator. A war on T-'rex's.

The only path to world peace is an out of control T-rex population threatening mankind.
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