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Mr. Blonde · 01-01-2008, 07:04 PM

I thought this little blurp was funny, this alone shows how fucking right wing Romney is trying to be in Iowa right now:

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Republican Mitt Romney sharply criticized rival Mike Huckabee Tuesday for joking in a recent interview that President Bush has not been well versed on foreign affairs.

“I’m not sure if Mr. Huckabee meant the attack as a joke, but this is not the time to be mocking our president,” Romney said at an event in Johnston, Iowa, according to the conservative Web site Townhall.com.

Huckabee's comments came in an interview with Iowa's Quad City Times, in which a reporter asked him why, last month, he was at first unaware of a National Intelligence Estimate detailing the threat posed by Iran, despite the fact the report had been made public for several hours.

"That was released at 10 o’clock in the morning," Huckabee said. "At 5:30 in the afternoon, somebody says, ‘Have you read the report?’ Maybe I should’ve said, ‘Have you read the report?’ President Bush didn’t read it for four years; I don’t know why I should read it in four hours.”

Romney said Tuesday the comments were in 'bad taste," and lifted from the "Democratic playbook."

“It was in bad taste and I think we should recognize the great work our president is doing and not take our rhetoric or plays from the Democratic playbook," he said. "This is the kind of stuff you’d expect of the Democrats, but is certainly not something you’d expect of a presidential contender on the Republican side.”

Romney, who most polls show is locked in a dead heat with Huckabee in Iowa, has taken aim at his chief rival before for criticizing the president. Following the publication of a Foreign Affairs article in which Huckabee labeled portions of Bush's foreign policy 'arrogant,' Romney suggested Huckabee is "running in the wrong party."

"I had to look again," the former Massachusetts governor said then. "Did this come from Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton? Did it come from John Edwards? No, it was one of our own, it was Governor Huckabee."\

EDIT: I should clarify that I know Huckabee is no Republican saint, but the fact that I did like this remark from him for how liberal it sounded, and how Romney is practically regarding it as treason was interesting to me.

Mr. Blonde · 01-03-2008, 02:19 PM

Your views for Huckabee aside, what do you guys think of his idea to abolish the IRS and enact a national sales tax? I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but I think it's pretty interesting.

The main component driving the idea is that the harder you work, the more you get taxed, which is kind of bullshit. but at the same time, there are also a lot of rich Americans making lots of money and not really doing much, and in those views I see such taxes justified.

Anways, i'd like to think it is a good idea because you'd only get taxed for what you actually buy. That being said, I don't know how that would affect the US financially. With the money you'd save from running the IRS...i mean shit, how many millions or billions does it cost to run the IRS annually? And implementing a national sales tax wouldn't really be that expensive at all....so you'd have a lot of funds open up.

What do you guys think about it? I'd like to hear GWB's view on it, as he seems to know a lot about economics and business etc.

EDIT: one concern is that the IRS has between 90,0000-115,000 employees that would suddenly be out of a job if that indeed did happen. I don't think a president has ever entirely eliminated goverment office of that size before.

f3lix · 01-03-2008, 02:48 PM

I approve of any method that shrinks our government. Eliminating 100,000 jobs alone saves us $5 billion, of which can (insert gasp here) be returned to the taxpaying American. They already tax the shit out of everything possible, so why do we need another tax? I'm for removing IRS and not adding a new tax. (altering taxes is alright, like installing a flat tax instead of our current system)

Mr. Blonde · 01-03-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

altering taxes is alright, like installing a flat tax instead of our current system

hm, that's an interesting idea as well, are you talking about percentages though or flat monetary rate? I would have a serious problem with someone who makes a mil a year getting taxed the same dollar amount as someone who makes 20k. With the NST system it'd justify, as we can all pretty much bet the the person bringing in a million dollars a year will buy a lot more stuff than the 20k person, therefore get taxed more.

Ugly Bastard · 01-03-2008, 03:52 PM

The problem with a national sales tax is that it discourages spending which is bad for the economy.

vaga1220 · 01-03-2008, 04:03 PM

I hate Mormons.

f3lix · 01-03-2008, 10:55 PM

Flat tax is equal percentage for all.

f3lix · 01-19-2008, 01:40 PM

Time for Rudy to hang it up? He's not hit double digits in any state and has been 5th or lower in the first 7 states. This includes a 6th place finish in Nevada, where he was polling first for the past 6 months.

f3lix · 01-19-2008, 06:27 PM

Duncan Hunter drops bid, Fred Thompson hints at drop it he doesn't fare well in SC tonight.

f3lix · 01-28-2008, 02:43 AM

In the debate the other night, poor old Mitt got busted for having answers whispered into his ear. Sux...

YouTube - The Romney Whisper?

f3lix · 01-28-2008, 03:08 AM

And then we have McCain...

YouTube - 1994 McCain vs 2008 McCain

Heaven Can Wait · 01-28-2008, 06:46 AM

Its ok, Obama has no chance now.

YouTube - OBAMAS LIMO SEX & DRUG PARTY

f3lix · 01-28-2008, 11:12 AM

Frankly, I don't ever know what to make of stuff like that. If it were true, it would likely not come out until he took a big lead and a rival needed it to crush him. At the same time, money people will do anything to thrust themselves into the national spotlight at this is the kind of story somebody could create to do such a thing.

Mr. Blonde · 01-28-2008, 01:15 PM

i hightly doubt it's true, and with the relatively low amount of hits it's gotten, unless the media picks up on it, which i doubt it will because of the content and the guys apparently lack of credibility except for a polygraph (which is currently being used as the premise of a show on fox, for gods sake), i doubt it will attract enough mainstream attention to sway votes.

Niger Angelus · 01-28-2008, 01:23 PM

Yeah, I'd have to agree. I think this guy is just trying to get an invite on Fox News.

Heaven Can Wait · 01-28-2008, 05:54 PM

Guess I should say that i agree, I dont believe in that shit.

Mr. Mistoffelees · 01-28-2008, 06:16 PM

could be true! and probably not! but it might be enough to fuck his campaign. I wouldn't vote for no cocksucker.

Heaven Can Wait · 01-29-2008, 07:01 AM

But would you let him fellate you?

f3lix · 01-29-2008, 01:38 PM

Politics1.com reports that Rudy Ghouliani will quit his bid for the presidency after getting handily beat in Florida.

f3lix · 01-30-2008, 01:39 AM

With Rudy now out of the race and Huckabee appearing to have been a one-state wonder, I am quite relieved that the two most scary GOP candidates are now gone. Rudy's fear/warmongering tactics scared the hell out of me and Huck's Jesus Lovefest were not what I wanted to see in the white house. I hate how Romney flip/flops like Kerry and how McCain has completely changed his war position, but I'd rather see these two over the other two.

On the Dems side, when will John Edwards give up? He says it's a marathon but he's been slaughted since Iowa.

Who really has the money to move on? Huck is running dry and McCain bankrupted his own candidacy 6 months ago. Romney's pouring millions of his own cash in every month, while Paul continues to outfundraise them all.

It's all still quite interesting to me as we are one week away from quite a few answers.

f3lix · 01-30-2008, 01:54 AM

This issue is def. about establishment and control and another radio personality slams elitist ass holes.

YouTube - Interview with Romney pushes Mark Larsen to support Ron Paul

f3lix · 01-30-2008, 11:56 AM

And then there were 6...

Barack vs. HRC

McCain vs. Romney vs. Huckabee vs. Paul

f3lix · 02-01-2008, 02:33 AM

YouTube - Reasons To Vote For John McCain!

Jerad Shaw · 02-01-2008, 04:37 AM

Jesus Christ. When is Ron Paul going to drop out of this race? I'm sick and tired of the circus he calls a campaign. Paul backers seem like a bunch of Harry Potter, fantasy believers. Give me a break.

Mr. Mistoffelees · 02-01-2008, 05:56 AM

Honestly, these videos you are posting are getting pretty shitty. We get it, people who have enough time to make shitty amateur videos support ron paul.

01-01-2008, 07:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Global Warming = Bullshit Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Asia Posts: 11,137 Internets: 8616	Overall Political Postings (not just about Ron Paul) I thought this little blurp was funny, this alone shows how fucking right wing Romney is trying to be in Iowa right now: WASHINGTON (CNN) – Republican Mitt Romney sharply criticized rival Mike Huckabee Tuesday for joking in a recent interview that President Bush has not been well versed on foreign affairs. “I’m not sure if Mr. Huckabee meant the attack as a joke, but this is not the time to be mocking our president,” Romney said at an event in Johnston, Iowa, according to the conservative Web site Townhall.com. Huckabee's comments came in an interview with Iowa's Quad City Times, in which a reporter asked him why, last month, he was at first unaware of a National Intelligence Estimate detailing the threat posed by Iran, despite the fact the report had been made public for several hours. "That was released at 10 o’clock in the morning," Huckabee said. "At 5:30 in the afternoon, somebody says, ‘Have you read the report?’ Maybe I should’ve said, ‘Have you read the report?’ President Bush didn’t read it for four years; I don’t know why I should read it in four hours.” Romney said Tuesday the comments were in 'bad taste," and lifted from the "Democratic playbook." “It was in bad taste and I think we should recognize the great work our president is doing and not take our rhetoric or plays from the Democratic playbook," he said. "This is the kind of stuff you’d expect of the Democrats, but is certainly not something you’d expect of a presidential contender on the Republican side.” Romney, who most polls show is locked in a dead heat with Huckabee in Iowa, has taken aim at his chief rival before for criticizing the president. Following the publication of a Foreign Affairs article in which Huckabee labeled portions of Bush's foreign policy 'arrogant,' Romney suggested Huckabee is "running in the wrong party." "I had to look again," the former Massachusetts governor said then. "Did this come from Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton? Did it come from John Edwards? No, it was one of our own, it was Governor Huckabee."\ EDIT: I should clarify that I know Huckabee is no Republican saint, but the fact that I did like this remark from him for how liberal it sounded, and how Romney is practically regarding it as treason was interesting to me.
	"It is amazing how many people seemingly cannot tell the difference between 'X is true' and 'It is desirable that people should believe that X is true'. Or maybe they don't really fall for this logical error, but simply rate truth as unimportant compared with human feelings. I don't want to decry human feelings. But let's be clear, in any particular conversation, what we are talking about: feelings, or truth. Both may be important, but they are not the same thing." Last edited by Mr. Blonde; 01-01-2008 at 07:17 PM.

01-03-2008, 02:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Global Warming = Bullshit Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Asia Posts: 11,137 Internets: 8616	No IRS? Your views for Huckabee aside, what do you guys think of his idea to abolish the IRS and enact a national sales tax? I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but I think it's pretty interesting. The main component driving the idea is that the harder you work, the more you get taxed, which is kind of bullshit. but at the same time, there are also a lot of rich Americans making lots of money and not really doing much, and in those views I see such taxes justified. Anways, i'd like to think it is a good idea because you'd only get taxed for what you actually buy. That being said, I don't know how that would affect the US financially. With the money you'd save from running the IRS...i mean shit, how many millions or billions does it cost to run the IRS annually? And implementing a national sales tax wouldn't really be that expensive at all....so you'd have a lot of funds open up. What do you guys think about it? I'd like to hear GWB's view on it, as he seems to know a lot about economics and business etc. EDIT: one concern is that the IRS has between 90,0000-115,000 employees that would suddenly be out of a job if that indeed did happen. I don't think a president has ever entirely eliminated goverment office of that size before.
	"It is amazing how many people seemingly cannot tell the difference between 'X is true' and 'It is desirable that people should believe that X is true'. Or maybe they don't really fall for this logical error, but simply rate truth as unimportant compared with human feelings. I don't want to decry human feelings. But let's be clear, in any particular conversation, what we are talking about: feelings, or truth. Both may be important, but they are not the same thing." Last edited by Mr. Blonde; 01-03-2008 at 02:24 PM.

01-03-2008, 03:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Not on my watch Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 10,537 Internets: 6858	The problem with a national sales tax is that it discourages spending which is bad for the economy.
	www.ItsOrangeNotRed.com

01-03-2008, 04:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
vaga1220 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: HELL 666 Posts: 951 Internets: 3107	I hate Mormons.
	Putting the sensual in non-consensual.

01-19-2008, 01:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	Time for Rudy to hang it up? He's not hit double digits in any state and has been 5th or lower in the first 7 states. This includes a 6th place finish in Nevada, where he was polling first for the past 6 months.
	Last edited by f3lix; 01-19-2008 at 01:41 PM.

01-03-2008, 02:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	I approve of any method that shrinks our government. Eliminating 100,000 jobs alone saves us $5 billion, of which can (insert gasp here) be returned to the taxpaying American. They already tax the shit out of everything possible, so why do we need another tax? I'm for removing IRS and not adding a new tax. (altering taxes is alright, like installing a flat tax instead of our current system)

01-03-2008, 10:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	Flat tax is equal percentage for all.

01-19-2008, 06:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	Duncan Hunter drops bid, Fred Thompson hints at drop it he doesn't fare well in SC tonight.

01-28-2008, 11:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	Frankly, I don't ever know what to make of stuff like that. If it were true, it would likely not come out until he took a big lead and a rival needed it to crush him. At the same time, money people will do anything to thrust themselves into the national spotlight at this is the kind of story somebody could create to do such a thing.

01-28-2008, 01:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Global Warming = Bullshit Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Asia Posts: 11,137 Internets: 8616	i hightly doubt it's true, and with the relatively low amount of hits it's gotten, unless the media picks up on it, which i doubt it will because of the content and the guys apparently lack of credibility except for a polygraph (which is currently being used as the premise of a show on fox, for gods sake), i doubt it will attract enough mainstream attention to sway votes.
	"It is amazing how many people seemingly cannot tell the difference between 'X is true' and 'It is desirable that people should believe that X is true'. Or maybe they don't really fall for this logical error, but simply rate truth as unimportant compared with human feelings. I don't want to decry human feelings. But let's be clear, in any particular conversation, what we are talking about: feelings, or truth. Both may be important, but they are not the same thing."

01-28-2008, 01:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Niger Angelus It's in the breeze... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,691 Internets: -26	Yeah, I'd have to agree. I think this guy is just trying to get an invite on Fox News.
	the composer just went deaf. the singer lost his breathe, in the glow of the crowd. the dancer's on a crutch. the writer drank to much. the director lost his touch. In the glow of the crowd. can you resist the urge to burn the script we wrote?

01-28-2008, 05:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	Guess I should say that i agree, I dont believe in that shit.
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

01-28-2008, 06:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mr. Mistoffelees Mr. Piss On Me Please Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bloomington Posts: 6,190 Internets: 7597	could be true! and probably not! but it might be enough to fuck his campaign. I wouldn't vote for no cocksucker.
	King of the Arcade

01-29-2008, 07:01 AM	#18 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	But would you let him fellate you?
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

01-29-2008, 01:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	Politics1.com reports that Rudy Ghouliani will quit his bid for the presidency after getting handily beat in Florida.

01-30-2008, 01:39 AM	#20 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	With Rudy now out of the race and Huckabee appearing to have been a one-state wonder, I am quite relieved that the two most scary GOP candidates are now gone. Rudy's fear/warmongering tactics scared the hell out of me and Huck's Jesus Lovefest were not what I wanted to see in the white house. I hate how Romney flip/flops like Kerry and how McCain has completely changed his war position, but I'd rather see these two over the other two. On the Dems side, when will John Edwards give up? He says it's a marathon but he's been slaughted since Iowa. Who really has the money to move on? Huck is running dry and McCain bankrupted his own candidacy 6 months ago. Romney's pouring millions of his own cash in every month, while Paul continues to outfundraise them all. It's all still quite interesting to me as we are one week away from quite a few answers.

01-30-2008, 11:56 AM	#22 (permalink)
f3lix Here's a fuckin how-de-do Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,336 Internets: 4635	And then there were 6... Barack vs. HRC McCain vs. Romney vs. Huckabee vs. Paul

02-01-2008, 04:37 AM	#24 (permalink)
Jerad Shaw Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 2,645 Internets: 2247	Jesus Christ. When is Ron Paul going to drop out of this race? I'm sick and tired of the circus he calls a campaign. Paul backers seem like a bunch of Harry Potter, fantasy believers. Give me a break.
	Let's go Colts, Hoosiers, Blackhawks, and Komets!!!

02-01-2008, 05:56 AM	#25 (permalink)
Mr. Mistoffelees Mr. Piss On Me Please Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bloomington Posts: 6,190 Internets: 7597	Honestly, these videos you are posting are getting pretty shitty. We get it, people who have enough time to make shitty amateur videos support ron paul.
	King of the Arcade

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