The Future of the Human Race.

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Who said sudden?

Gentlemen, I'd like you all to meet the new Mr. Blonde: Dent.

Definition of catastrophe
like the bible flood you dope

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Well, there being no energy left in the universe would technically classify as much greater than (but inclusive of) a global catastrophe.

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

I have no doubt, however (pending a global catastrophe that would significantly set back or annihilate the human race), that our science will eventually achieve a form of immortality, one way or another.

This dope puts all current knowledge of the fate of the universe in brackets, plenty of Nobel prize winners.
The Universe is expanding, density is decreasing, and you are a dope.

[Mr. Blonde]

[Saint DH]

He's just having a piss.

That's how you talk over there right? Or is that Australian?

Perhaps you just say something like, he's just 'avin a giggly wiggly.

Anyways, I don't think anyone here is speaking in terms of total immortality. We're only talking about significantly expanding the human lifespan so that humans, for all intents and purposes, are immortal to aging and disease.

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Anyways, I don't think anyone here is speaking in terms of total immortality.

Ohhhhh
You mean you use the word immortal, Blonde uses the (typically wishy-washy) "form of immortality"
And i'm meant to assume that you guys know about the second law of thermodynamics and how most physicists think it will NEVER change.

I'm so sorry for taking what you said at face value!

Would you like to know a little about biology DH? I can see you know fuck all by this "
FYI, the life extension foundation has published research about telomere length and cell life for a decade. "
Edit : actually your "prey need a predator" was the most telling.

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Tenzin Gyatso knows about the second law, you should know better.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

"catastrophe"

LEARN YOUR WORDS

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

for all intents and purposes, are immortal to aging and disease.

What the fuck is for all intensive porpoises doing in the same sentence as immortal?

Fuck. Me.

[Saint DH]

What is happening in this thread?

The Life Extension Foundation is on the front lines of longevity research. I'm not sure how you couldn't take what they say seriously.

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

I'm not sure how you couldn't take what they say seriously.

I take them seriously, I don't take you seriously.

Blonde posted the telemere thing in response to your "theoretically eliminate all disease" post, the NYT article is down but I can see that it's titled can-a-jellyfish-unlock-the-secret-of-immortality.html, complete bullshit nonsense, the same bullshit nonsense that most science communicators do all the time.
This rings the "they think if you can add telemeres indefinitely on you can stop aging" bell,
you'll still pick up mutations from:
The replication process, transposable elements, induced mutations;incorporation of base analogs, intercalating agents, alkylating agents, UV light causing pyrimidine dimers, ionising radiation, Reactive oxygen species (ROS)
and Viruses that incorporate themselves into DNA (retrovirus). Also major problems with chromosomal mutations during meiosis (two thirds of early miscarriages are associated with chromosome abnormalities)


If you knew that telemeres were only the surface of the aging problem then i'm sorry.

Scientific Breakthroughs
I posted the real breakthrough with the structure of Telomerase here, the enzyme responsible for adding telemeres.
It uses reverse transcription to add on repeating segments of DNA during meiosis, and sometimes during mitosis (in humans)
In the Naked Mole rat they have more telemerase activity in their somatic cells cells than we do.





Telomerase: fitting of high-resolution structures into an EM map - YouTube
One of the main concepts of biology is "Structure is Function" the shape of a molecule is directly related to what the molecule is capable of doing, this is news, the links today were not. I posted it like 6 months ago.


In 2006, Gorbunova discovered that telomerase—an enzyme that can lengthen the lives of cells, but can also increase the rate of cancer—is highly active in small rodents, but not in large ones.
Scientists Discover Gene that 'Cancer-Proofs' Rodent's Cells : Rochester News

[Dent]

NIH Studies Explore Promise of Sequencing Babies? Genomes | Science/AAAS | News
Screen yo kids screen yo wife
Preimplantation genetic screening for all!

A new research program funded at $25 million over 5 years by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) will explore the promise—and ethical challenges—of sequencing every newborn’s genome.

[Dent]

Eternal youth; yours for a fee? - Telegraph
fuckin eternal

[Saint DH]

Interesting article.

I could have done without the whole, "waaaaah, rich people can buy stuff that poor people can't" garbage.

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Interesting article.

I could have done without the whole, "waaaaah, rich people can buy stuff that poor people can't" garbage.

Why is it garbage?

[Saint DH]

Because it is vilifying wealthy people.

[Dent]

Poor predators.

[SittinOnDubsWGW]

Pretty cool stuff. It'll be interesting to see where the technology is in the near future. I'd love to be able to store away some extra kidneys and liver for whenever I destroy mine.

[Dent]

Calico: Google's New Project to Solve Death - TIME
Google getting in on that life extension thing
link I used to read the article (no subscription)
Alobar Greywalker: Magickal Record (aka Frater PVN, LA-BAJ-AL) - Google vs Death

[Dent]

Scientist who mapped human genome says we will be able to 'print' alien life from Mars - Science - News - The Independent

3D printing is cool
4D atomic scale self assembly printing is cooler than cool.

[Dent]

Richard Dawkins: "I would like everybody to be a vegetarian." - YouTube

Richard Dawkins: "I would like everybody to be a vegetarian." - YouTube

"I would like to be a vegetarian. I would like everybody to be a vegetarian." He continued: "In 100 or 200 years time, we may look back on the way we treated animals today as something like we today look back on the way our forefathers treated slaves."

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

lol, what a crackpot

[ninjaface]

Wouldn't it be more cruel for all the animals to die of starvation because humans are eating all their food?

[Saint DH]

Or how about causing entire species of animals to go extinct?

Cows, pigs, chickens, etc, are not equipped to survive on their own. They would not survive.

[ninjaface]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Or how about causing entire species of animals to go extinct?

Cows, pigs, chickens, etc, are not equipped to survive on their own. They would not survive.

I am a carnivore, but if cows pugs and chicken are not equipped to survive, why are they here now?

[Saint DH]

Well they have evolved to be dependent on humans to survive-their evolutionary niche is to be food for humans. It seems like it was a good strategy since the population of cattle, for example, is quite large. The wild cow, whose name escapes me at the moment, is nearly extinct.