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Mr. Blonde · 10-27-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dent

why isn't repug joining in?

Not sure. Probably not aware.

Dent · 10-28-2013, 02:23 PM

A Christian Transhumanist Association: moving forward | TURING CHURCH
Lol.. created in His image!

Mr. Blonde · 10-28-2013, 02:27 PM

At first glance, I don't see a problem with that. One could say it is humanity's destiny to achieve godhood anyways.

Dent · 10-28-2013, 05:03 PM

It's good to see Christians getting into transhumanism, It will be interesting if they get set up properly.
I haven't came across a religious person spouting "destiny to achieve godhood" before, and I think there is a conflict, one is a death cult.

Two edit : three quotes from here, i'll read the book sometime.
Conflict Between Traditional Religion and Transhumanism ? At Any Cost...

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Originally Posted by The Transhumanist Wager Guide

While there is plenty on the transhumanist wish-list cited above to support a religiously inspired charge of "scientists playing God," it actually may be the effort to dramatically increase life/health-span, once it approaches an extreme level, that intrudes most seriously and fundamentally upon something that was once thought to be the exclusive domain of religion: immortality.
And to make matters worse, transhumanists are promising PHYSICAL immortality without the need for faith in an afterlife nor the necessity to die. This strikes at the heart of many religions' greatest selling point. If transhumanists can offer the world's people the possibility of immortality without the paradoxical need to die to obtain it, traditional religions will be seen as obsolete by many pragmatically-minded people, which brings us to…

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Originally Posted by The Transhumanist Wager

“The Wager is the most logical conclusion to arrive at for any sensible human being: We love life and therefore want to live as long as possible—we desire to be immortal. It's impossible to know if we're going to be immortal once we die. To do nothing doesn't help our odds of attaining immortality, since it seems evident that we're going to die someday and possibly cease to exist. To attempt something scientifically constructive towards ensuring immortality beforehand is the most logical solution.” (58-9)

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Originally Posted by The Transhumanist Wager Guide

In the book, there is a heated discussion between the leader of the transhumanists, Jethro Knights, and the leader of the religious opposition, Reverend Belinas:

Belinas declared, “That's so typical of your overman breed, of which you are its chief architect and philosopher. Your problem is that you're not an atheist; you're not even an antitheist. You're an apatheist—one who doesn't care to find out if he should know God.”

“That's true,” Jethro answered simply. “It's just not an expedient use of my time. I have too much value in my own life for the need to consider, or want, anything else.”

“You've never been fearful you might be wrong about that? You’ve never been afraid you might miss out on knowing the Creator of the universe?”

“Nope. Never.”

Dent · 11-07-2013, 09:58 AM

March of science: The 21st century will be the age of genetics - Editorials - Voices - The Independent

PostHuman: An Introduction to Transhumanism - YouTube

Dent · 12-02-2013, 01:39 PM

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz...ous-130208.pdf

Schwitzgebel
February 8, 2013
USA Consciousness, p.
If Materialism Is True, the United
States Is Probably Conscious

Mr. Blonde · 12-10-2013, 12:55 AM

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dent · 12-22-2013, 03:28 PM

Nick Bostrom's -The Fable of the Dragon Tyrant - YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 01-13-2014, 10:34 PM

The Fable of the Dragon-Tyrant

Mr. Blonde · 01-13-2014, 10:35 PM

Didn't check Dent's last post, lol.

Dent · 02-08-2014, 01:33 PM

I am the very model of a singularitarian - YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 03-28-2014, 11:14 PM

The Truth, The Way, The Life

lol

How To Live In A Simulation*

Dent · 03-28-2014, 11:29 PM

The Simulation Argument and the future of suffering: objections to The Hedonistic Imperative
we're probably not living in a simulation*

Dent · 07-18-2014, 02:31 AM

You better fuckin donate or the basilisk is gonna get ya

Roko's basilisk is a proposition that says an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future may retroactively punish those who did not assist in bringing about its existence. It resembles a futurist version of Pascal's wager
Roko's basilisk - RationalWiki

Roko’s Basilisk: The most terrifying thought experiment of all time.

lol. Alexander Kruel - Eliezer Yudkowsky’s narcissistic tendencies

Mr. Blonde · 07-18-2014, 02:57 AM

Yudkowsky opened my eyes to some new ways of thinking/looking at things, but I think you've read much more of his material than I have.

Interesting idea. What if the AI goes the opposite direction?

I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dent · 01-05-2016, 10:43 AM

Forever Young: A Love Song To Ray Kurzweil - YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 01-05-2016, 11:45 AM

pretty well done. i laughed at the forcing supplements down her mouth part.

also she hit the spacebar when it asked her to upload her consciousness into the computer and in my book that's a cancel.

Dent · 01-05-2016, 12:37 PM

If you're an open individualist you'd be that too, assuming mind uploading works.
If you're empty then it doesn't matter, closed's should gaf
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Ontological Qualia: The Future of Personal Identity | Qualia Computing
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mr. Blonde · 01-05-2016, 01:14 PM

can't we just, like, go beyond labels, man?

Dent · 01-10-2016, 01:41 PM

If you don't think mind uploading works you get a label, there are many reasons you might think mind uploading can't work and each of them gets a label

catch 'em all

Mr. Blonde · 01-10-2016, 07:48 PM

open ur ice cold heart

The Labels We Take On: How They Limit Our Potential

Dent · 01-13-2021, 11:39 AM

What happens when you mix rationalists and vegans together? You get tears.

Roko's Basilisk made a few effective altruists I know cry themselves to sleep at night.
FC I see you follow a few of these people, what do you think of them?

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Originally Posted by Dent

You better fuckin donate or the basilisk is gonna get ya

Roko's basilisk is a proposition that says an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future may retroactively punish those who did not assist in bringing about its existence. It resembles a futurist version of Pascal's wager
Roko's basilisk - RationalWiki

Roko’s Basilisk: The most terrifying thought experiment of all time.

lol. Alexander Kruel - Eliezer Yudkowsky’s narcissistic tendencies

Dent · 01-13-2021, 11:42 AM

Dorian Electra has made a music career for herself, way too woke for me these days but I really like her older stuff, liked her before she got famous!

There's a lady called Valentina Valentino on one of the social medias and she gets like 60 views and I can't understand why she's not big already.

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Originally Posted by Dent

Forever Young: A Love Song To Ray Kurzweil - YouTube

07-18-2014, 02:57 AM	#40 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Yudkowsky opened my eyes to some new ways of thinking/looking at things, but I think you've read much more of his material than I have. Interesting idea. What if the AI goes the opposite direction? I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-05-2016, 11:45 AM	#42 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	pretty well done. i laughed at the forcing supplements down her mouth part. also she hit the spacebar when it asked her to upload her consciousness into the computer and in my book that's a cancel.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-05-2016, 01:14 PM	#44 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	can't we just, like, go beyond labels, man?
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

01-10-2016, 07:48 PM	#46 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	open ur ice cold heart The Labels We Take On: How They Limit Our Potential
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

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10-28-2013, 02:23 PM	#27 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,105 Internets: 147739	A Christian Transhumanist Association: moving forward \| TURING CHURCH Lol.. created in His image!

10-28-2013, 02:27 PM	#28 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	At first glance, I don't see a problem with that. One could say it is humanity's destiny to achieve godhood anyways.

12-02-2013, 01:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,105 Internets: 147739	http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz...ous-130208.pdf Schwitzgebel February 8, 2013 USA Consciousness, p. If Materialism Is True, the United States Is Probably Conscious

12-10-2013, 12:55 AM	#32 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

01-13-2014, 10:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	The Fable of the Dragon-Tyrant

01-13-2014, 10:35 PM	#35 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Didn't check Dent's last post, lol.

03-28-2014, 11:14 PM	#37 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	The Truth, The Way, The Life lol How To Live In A Simulation*

03-28-2014, 11:29 PM	#38 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,105 Internets: 147739	The Simulation Argument and the future of suffering: objections to The Hedonistic Imperative we're probably not living in a simulation*

07-18-2014, 02:31 AM	#39 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,105 Internets: 147739	You better fuckin donate or the basilisk is gonna get ya Roko's basilisk is a proposition that says an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future may retroactively punish those who did not assist in bringing about its existence. It resembles a futurist version of Pascal's wager Roko's basilisk - RationalWiki Roko’s Basilisk: The most terrifying thought experiment of all time. lol. Alexander Kruel - Eliezer Yudkowsky’s narcissistic tendencies

01-05-2016, 12:37 PM	#43 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,105 Internets: 147739	If you're an open individualist you'd be that too, assuming mind uploading works. If you're empty then it doesn't matter, closed's should gaf VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Ontological Qualia: The Future of Personal Identity \| Qualia Computing ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

01-10-2016, 01:41 PM	#45 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,105 Internets: 147739	If you don't think mind uploading works you get a label, there are many reasons you might think mind uploading can't work and each of them gets a label catch 'em all