Consciousness, Death, Existentialism etc.

[Dent]

Binged on westworld, good stuff!
Anyone know how the mind/brain of the vat people is linked to the avatars in westworld?

Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

Considering I was mocked on these boards for bringing philosophy into the discussion, my cocksure attitude leaves me no doubt that eventually Dent will come around to my way of thinking (again), because I'm so much smarter than him.

Please sum up your line of thinking so I can easily quote it in future to let you know how wrong I was I'm not ashamed that my philosophy is weak-sauce, and you're cockpug because I know a bunch of people smarter than either of us who disagree, you've acted like there's consensus and i'm the only one who doesn't have a clue.

Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

That said, if you don't think abstract concepts exist then there's no need for us to go any further, because we can't agree on a premise on which to base our arguments on.

I asked a friend about this and I almost get what you're getting at, this is his response.

• perhaps compare sematic meaning. A treatise can be written outlining that no state of the world can "really" be about another state of the world...meanings are useful fictions that ultimately have no place in a naturalistic world picture.
And yet such a treatise has to rely on meaning in some sense to make its case...
08/11/2016 22:14
an "as if" platonism is hugely fruitful
without it one will miss countless features of the world, just as one would by disavowing sematic meaning...

[Dent]

Urban Dictionary: Triangulism

Triangulism is the belief that the ultimate omnipotent force is the Triangle. The Triangle consists of three components. Crayon, a physical manifestation of piety. Maths, the logistics in which substantial mathmatical evidence supports the thesis of the Triangles strength. Cool-air, the benevolent forces of forgiveness and comfort.

Triangulism rejects and denounces the notions of Circularism, which proposes the strength of the circle over the Triangle. Triangular scriptures say that the Circle was once a square. But, tired of subversion, the square rounded it's edges and corners and proposed an opposing kingdom to the Triangle.

Mathmatical evidence suggests that the Triangle is the strongest polygon, and no other polygon can exist without two or more triangles. Humans are viewed as Cones, both triangular and circular. Because of this, the Triangle is understanding of human frailties and imperfections and therefore doesn't condemn humanity. However, those who willingly take the side of the circle are condemned to the circular kingdom.
(Tri-ang-gyoo-lisum)

Peace is at hand. Rejoice, for the Triangle hath defeated the circle and it's ally, copper.

[Dent]

http://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/f...pers/Globe.pdf
@ Blonde

Bicameral mind 1977

Haven't watched the latest westworld but apparently it's not following this any more

[Dent]

Digital sentience as created by a hypothetical artificial intelligence could potentially be considered to have some level of sentience and thus moral consideration. It is not guaranteed that such sentience would be well cared for by some overarching AI, or whether they would have good lives….. If digital sentience has, on average, net negative lives, spreading digital sentience throughout the universe could be bad. There is a substantial literature on AI safety, risks and digital sentience that this essay assumes some familiarity with. For a complete overview of the technical and strategic considerations, see Superintelligence (Bostrom 2014).

Dat dere digital sentience putting in meaningful work.
(Dent doesn't understand the digital sentience thing and thinks it's buzzy bollocks)

[Dent]

cocksniffingpug oh wise one can you tell me about them abstract objects please
ps you are the best

[Dent]

Great talk from Phil Goff arguing for consciousness being an intrinsic aspect of physical stuffy stuff, Dennet is on the same boat but not in the same boat and asks how to find this intrinsic stuff with a pointer via the science

Presentation of Philip Goff on consciousness. Greenland cruise 2014 - YouTube

Presentation of Philip Goff on consciousness. Greenland cruise 2014 - YouTube

[Dent]

After the ecstasy, more ecstasy!

Paradise Engineering - YouTube

Paradise Engineering - YouTube

[Dent]

NUMBER 1 WILL SHOCK UR BOLLOCKS OFF

10 Strange Animal Problems With Even Stranger Solutions – WOWrly

[Orgazmo]

Fun Fact: In #8, the mentioned zoo is mere minutes from Nubblies.net's very own Stabmaster Arson's residence.

[Dent]

https://www.amazon.com/Biotechnology...dp/B075MV9KS2/

Can Biotechnology Abolish Suffering?

Nope, because Repug said something about not being able to have one without the other on the nubblies a while ago.


Dent gets a note of thanks for his contribution to the collection..



paperback release 2k18

[Dent]

Everything you've ever seen or experienced is a miniature internal replica inside your head.

Nondualita - STEVEN LEHAR - YouTube

Nondualita - STEVEN LEHAR - YouTube

[Saint DH]

But your dick couldn't get any more miniature

[Dent]

My dick only gets bigger the further you move away from it.
It also gets bigger the further you move towards it.

[Orgazmo]

Joke's on you. I'm stationary.

write on me

[Dent]

Richard Feynman on hungry philosophers (or do we see objects or only their light) - YouTube

Richard Feynman on hungry philosophers (or do we see objects or only their light) - YouTube

Feynman disagrees, but fuck that guy he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he's definitely not the product of a hidden esoteric school.

[Dent]

What's new? a bunch of actual cocksuckers think they can slice me up with Ockham's by not positing unity of consciousness. as much as i'd like to posit this unfortunately we must "save the phenomena" and I know what I see.. they don't even explain how it "seems" like there is any unity.
Good job that stanford philosophy agrees with me on this shit.


https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/c...nity/#ConsUnif

To sum up the discussion of scepticism about unified consciousness so far, the argument that the unity of consciousness is real, indeed is a central feature of our kind of mind, seems to be strong.

[Dent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_grounding_problem

I know there's a problem, press your body to mine.

[Dent]

First u start with a little pinch of Thesis

[Dent]

<3 Galen Strawson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvaOJUPiB68

[Dent]

He just emailed me!

[Dent]

Originally Posted by Dent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_grounding_problem

I know there's a problem, press your body to mine.

“How can the semantic interpretation of a formal symbol system be made intrinsic to the system, rather than just parasitic on the meanings in our heads? How can the meanings of the meaningless symbol tokens, manipulated solely on the basis of their (arbitrary) shapes, be grounded in anything but other meaningless symbols”.
(Steven Harnad, The Symbol Grounding Problem, 1990)

[Dent]

hey repug how is semantic meaning possible?
How can one state of affairs be “about” another state of affairs?
This is really bugging me and I'll make the presumably small amount of time it takes you to respond worthwhile.
hashtag aloneamongstthezombiez

Originally Posted by Dent

Maybe you could explain why they do instead of having a strop?

[Dent]

https://www.iep.utm.edu/sellars/

[Dent]

What is the world described by physics made of?

[Dent]

To be clear the answer is fucking consciousness woooo