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Johnny Richter · 06-23-2018, 06:02 AM

Everything is everything, dude

Dent · 07-02-2018, 11:13 AM

Yes A=A
A ≠ almost A, pretend A, a or lord forgive, B!

Dent · 02-22-2019, 01:28 PM

first there was nothing then there was something then there was nothing forevermore
stupid fairytale.. real naturalists know that you ain't goin nowhere!

This paper critiques the widespread secular misunderstanding of death as a plunge into oblivion. It uses a thought experiment about personal identity similar to those employed by British philosopher Derek Parfit in his tour de force Reasons and Persons. By degrees, the reader is supposed to see that the notion of a blank or emptiness following death is incoherent, and that therefore we should not anticipate the end of experience when we die. This conclusion has a bit of a mystical feel to it, even though the premises are naturalistic.

"After death we won't experience non-being, we won't "fade to black." We continue as the generic subjectivity that always finds itself here, in the various contexts of awareness that the physical universe manages to create. So when I recommend that you look forward to the (continuing) sense of always having been here, construe that "you" not as a particular person, but as that condition of awareness, which although manifesting itself in finite subjectivities, nevertheless always finds itself present."

https://www.naturalism.org/philosoph...HbHJBc2HOw1br0

Dent · 03-04-2019, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent

Everything you've ever seen or experienced is a miniature internal replica inside your head.
Nondualita - STEVEN LEHAR - YouTube

guys guys I still buy this and it's fucked up what you think of as being outside of your head is actually inside damn

Orgazmo · 03-04-2019, 11:57 AM

Ah fuck.

When I realized what this was saying, it really, really made me feel uneasy.

I still do. A bit claustrophobic.

Dent · 03-13-2019, 08:51 AM

Yeah it wasn't until a few months ago that I had a feeling of understanding this.. I was looking at a forest seemingly stretching for miles. to consider that all of this is going on in a 3lb lump of neural porridge really opens everything up...

"it turns out I think that this experience that we have is actually what our brain is doing, this universe that we experience is a dream generated by our brain, the same circuitry that produces our dreams at night produces a dream during the day"

Orgazmo · 03-13-2019, 11:12 AM

...and it "clicking" is also the brain understanding what it's been doing all along.

Dent · 03-15-2019, 06:48 AM

The brain is wider than the sky

Johnny Richter · 03-18-2019, 07:18 PM

So you’re saying that my dick is actually in my brain. Wow far out dude.

Orgazmo · 03-19-2019, 11:49 AM

If you're persistent enough (and willing to face the impending charges), your dick can be in anyone's brain.

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06-23-2018, 06:02 AM	#151 (permalink)
Johnny Richter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,742 Internets: 249402	Everything is everything, dude

07-02-2018, 11:13 AM	#152 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 2,499 Internets: 111419	Yes A=A A ≠ almost A, pretend A, a or lord forgive, B!

02-22-2019, 01:28 PM	#153 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 2,499 Internets: 111419	first there was nothing then there was something then there was nothing forevermore stupid fairytale.. real naturalists know that you ain't goin nowhere! This paper critiques the widespread secular misunderstanding of death as a plunge into oblivion. It uses a thought experiment about personal identity similar to those employed by British philosopher Derek Parfit in his tour de force Reasons and Persons. By degrees, the reader is supposed to see that the notion of a blank or emptiness following death is incoherent, and that therefore we should not anticipate the end of experience when we die. This conclusion has a bit of a mystical feel to it, even though the premises are naturalistic. "After death we won't experience non-being, we won't "fade to black." We continue as the generic subjectivity that always finds itself here, in the various contexts of awareness that the physical universe manages to create. So when I recommend that you look forward to the (continuing) sense of always having been here, construe that "you" not as a particular person, but as that condition of awareness, which although manifesting itself in finite subjectivities, nevertheless always finds itself present." https://www.naturalism.org/philosoph...HbHJBc2HOw1br0

03-04-2019, 11:57 AM	#155 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,367 Internets: 291816	Ah fuck. When I realized what this was saying, it really, really made me feel uneasy. I still do. A bit claustrophobic.

03-13-2019, 08:51 AM	#156 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 2,499 Internets: 111419	Yeah it wasn't until a few months ago that I had a feeling of understanding this.. I was looking at a forest seemingly stretching for miles. to consider that all of this is going on in a 3lb lump of neural porridge really opens everything up... "it turns out I think that this experience that we have is actually what our brain is doing, this universe that we experience is a dream generated by our brain, the same circuitry that produces our dreams at night produces a dream during the day"

03-13-2019, 11:12 AM	#157 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,367 Internets: 291816	...and it "clicking" is also the brain understanding what it's been doing all along.

03-15-2019, 06:48 AM	#158 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 2,499 Internets: 111419	The brain is wider than the sky

03-18-2019, 07:18 PM	#159 (permalink)
Johnny Richter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,742 Internets: 249402	So you’re saying that my dick is actually in my brain. Wow far out dude.

03-19-2019, 11:49 AM	#160 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,367 Internets: 291816	If you're persistent enough (and willing to face the impending charges), your dick can be in anyone's brain.