It's a new day in America

[f3lix]

George W. Bush and Barack Obama have done it. They've pissed off Americans so much that Americans are creating their new party out of thin air. The Tea Party movement continues gaining momentum. While most media write off Ron Paul and every poll that shows he's more credible than they wish him to be, it's VERY hard to ignore what was just released yesterday.

Rasmussen poll of 1000 likely voters in 2012 presidential election. 4 choices.

Barack Obama 42%
Ron Paul 41%
Prefer another candidate 11%
Undecided 6%

Holy shit!

The link goes through all the questions and results. It shows the Tea Party movement is gaining MAJOR ground. This wasn't an internet poll, it wasn't a texting poll, it wasn't a call-in poll. A real, legit poll done by one of the most respected, independent polling firms in the country.

Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41% - Rasmussen Reports

[DDTempest]

So roughly half of the people who took this survey didn't like Obama and assumed Ron Paul is a republican? That's what I'm getting out of this.

[DJ FC]

Agreed.

Same results for any republican candidate replaced for Ron Paul.

[Ugly Bastard]

Jesus Christ. If I'm going to have to listen to two and a half more years of Ron Paul shit out of you f3lix, at least make it profitable for me. I'll give you 8:1 against him winning the nomination and 20:1 against him winning the Presidency.

[DJ FC]

I'll back 20/1s on presidency if I can lay 8/1s on nomination.

[Der Fuhrer]

f3lix, would it be fair to say that your biggest dream is to some day have Ron Paul as your gynecologist and inspect your vag?

[DJ FC]

I love Ron Paul.

And if you love him too you'll let the "Tea Party" movement die.

Face it, that belongs to Palin now. We failed. Let the fucks have their fuckhood and never utter the words "Tea Party" again.

You can, however, continue to triumph liberty.

[f3lix]

Tea Party wipes several more GOP establishment candidates out. Wow. Either the Dems clean up this election in November or this country will be turned around with the election. This is going to be a glorious or tragic year. At least we've taken the establishment out of the GOP.

[Fruitacious B]

Ron Paul is going to be in Bloomington on the 25th of October. I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it.

[Repugnant Abomination]

F3lix, you're still supporting the tea party? I thought most of the original supporters jumped ship a long time ago.

[f3lix]

I'd rather see the Tea Party people than the establishment GOP or Dems. But I am not in line with their views, as I was when it was the true tea party.

[Repugnant Abomination]

Well, I'll say this: I've come to understand the absolute pertinence of the economy and what seems to work and not work regarding it. But even now, when my own state has the 8th highest unemployment rate in the country, I find it difficult to back a movement that is churning out candidates like Christine O'Donnell with such heinous social views. The fact that many of the popular candidates backed by the Tea Party do have such intrusively puritanical views that they very much would like to enforce seems contradictory to the social libertarian agenda the Tea Party was originally about.

[f3lix]

Are you guys really saying that you would rather have the socialistic path we are heading towards instead of a party with ideas that are actually new and fresh? I don't agree with half the things the Tea Party now stands for, but I'd rather see a bunch of stalemates in congress than a lot of progress leading us on our current path.

[Mr. Blonde]

That just seems like a dangerous line of thought for me. We can still try to change the establishment, or gain momentum with other possible parties, rather than sell ourselves to, in my opinion, a party with much more potential danger than the current R/D system. I mean, fuck man.

You'd vote for them even though you don't agree with half of their policies just because they're "new and fresh"?

Isn't that kind of...the logic that put Obama into office? Not that i'm anti-Obama, but you sure are.

[Repugnant Abomination]

"Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy." -Kafka

[f3lix]

I strongly believe in half of what they, too. While some may have some whack history (and which non-career politician doesn't) I'm not too worried about a woman who said masturbation is a sin (in 1994, on MTV, AND was prompted.)

I want a candidate who isn't going to compromise their vote to get a vote on some other issue. That's how this country got fucked in the first place.

[DJ FC]

Originally Posted by f3lix

Are you guys really saying that you would rather have the socialistic path we are heading towards instead of a party with ideas that are actually new and fresh? I don't agree with half the things the Tea Party now stands for, but I'd rather see a bunch of stalemates in congress than a lot of progress leading us on our current path.

I consider myself fairly right-leaning and even I would rather see Obama and his pals stay in office rather than Palin and the tea-baggers.

[ninjaface]

There is more to be worried about regarding Christine O'Donnell than just her social views.

Since 1994, Farleigh Dickinson University, in New Jersey, has sued O'Donnell five times for outstanding debts of about $5,000. O'Donnell claims to have graduated from the school 17 years ago -- and claimed to have a degree during her 2006 Senate campaign -- but the school said she did not officially graduate until two weeks ago. In previous interviews, O'Donnell said the school withheld the diploma because of the money. But a school official interviewed by Politco.com said the degree was not conferred because she had not completed her coursework.

In a March interview with Delaware's News Journal, O'Donnell admitted to living in a three-bedroom home with David Hust, a campaign staffer and Christian rock musician and paying half her rent – between $1,645 and $2,020 a month – with campaign donations because she uses the home as a campaign office as well.

O'Donnell, who previously owned a home, was also sued by her mortgage holder in March 2008 at the height of her campaign against then-Sen. Joe Biden. The company secured a mortgage default against her for $90,421 and the house was to be foreclosed and sold at auction. Instead, O'Donnell told the News Journal, she sold the house to a campaign lawyer. She said she intended to buy the house back, but decided instead to run again.

[f3lix]

So her inability to accept that money is real makes her a perfect fit for congress.

[Ugly Bastard]

Oh God help us that should have been a clear R seat why elect this ho?

[Der Fuhrer]

B/c it's the east coast...I wish the ocean didn't attract a multitude of assholes.

[Repugnant Abomination]

lol wat

BBC News - Tea Party star Christine O'Donnell in witchcraft row

[f3lix]

Who fucking cares what she did in high school? What does that have to do with now?

[thekremlin]

I would be much more concerned about this:

"Allegations of financial mismanagement have plagued Ms O'Donnell. In 2008 she defaulted on her mortgage and in 2010 the US government filed a claim stating that she owed more than $10,000 (£6,430) in back taxes and penalties. She has said this was a mistake, and a computer error.

Although she claimed to have graduated from college in 1993, she didn't receive her degree until 2010 due to a dispute over tuition bills and required course credits.

Accusations that she inappropriately used campaign funds - to pay her rent, for example - have also surfaced. "

Default on mortgage-> should not be elected to any position where you manage public funds. Just one of my quaint beliefs.

She also calls evolution a theory. At this point, isn't that like suggesting that the Copernican view of the solar system is wrong because the Bible says so?

[Mr. Blonde]

Shutup Kremlin, the heliocentric theory and the theory of gravity are still only theories.